GMAT Tiers - strong schools for your GMAT


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Hi Duncun,

If you are using the ft ranking as the benchmark, then I agree that Aston is no longer as good as before... Moreover, it did not even appear on the top 100 ranking on Economist 2015, to my surprise!

[quote]Has Aston been consistently listed in the top 100 MBAs?
http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/global-mba-ranking-2015
http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/global-mba-ranking-2014
http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/global-mba-ranking-2013 [/quote]

Hi Duncun,

If you are using the ft ranking as the benchmark, then I agree that Aston is no longer as good as before... Moreover, it did not even appear on the top 100 ranking on Economist 2015, to my surprise!
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SandyMBA

Why Katz (UofPittsburgh) is not at all considered though it stands 35th in the Forbes list (US schools) and 97th in 2015 Global list of FT?

http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/global-mba-ranking-2015

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[Edited by SandyMBA on Jan 03, 2016]

Why Katz (UofPittsburgh) is not at all considered though it stands 35th in the Forbes list (US schools) and 97th in 2015 Global list of FT?

http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/global-mba-ranking-2015

http://www.forbes.com/business-schools/list/2/#tab:rank_header:position
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Duncan

Goodness me. This post is now over 75,000 views!

Goodness me. This post is now over 75,000 views!
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randt21

Very interesting!
I'm wondering.. I guess these numbers generally apply to full time MBA - do these numbers also apply to Executive MBA programs for the same school?

Very interesting!
I'm wondering.. I guess these numbers generally apply to full time MBA - do these numbers also apply to Executive MBA programs for the same school?
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Razors Edg...

No, EMBA programs as a rule will generally have lower GMAT scores than their full-time counterparts at the same school. However, this will vary greatly depending on many factors. What schools are you looking at?

No, EMBA programs as a rule will generally have lower GMAT scores than their full-time counterparts at the same school. However, this will vary greatly depending on many factors. What schools are you looking at?
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CLV_19

This post is very helpful thank you!!

I do have one question about this:

If you have less work experience, you'll generally be a more competitive candidate towards the bottom of the tier you are targetting.


Does the opposite apply? For instance I have 8 years of work experience and since most of these MBAs have average work experience of 4-6 years should I apply to a higher tier than normal?

This post is very helpful thank you!!

I do have one question about this:

[quote]If you have less work experience, you'll generally be a more competitive candidate towards the bottom of the tier you are targetting.[/quote]

Does the opposite apply? For instance I have 8 years of work experience and since most of these MBAs have average work experience of 4-6 years should I apply to a higher tier than normal?
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Duncan

No, because there is a sweet spot for experience. With too much experience you are harder to place.

No, because there is a sweet spot for experience. With too much experience you are harder to place.
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Hentjoe9

I'm interested in the Tier 5 schools in Germany - WHU and ESMT.

When you say that they "don't have the profile they would like in the rankings" and that their GMAT score is more variable, what exactly do you mean? Because of their variability, are they riskier than the schools in the higher tiers?

I'm interested in the Tier 5 schools in Germany - WHU and ESMT.

When you say that they "don't have the profile they would like in the rankings" and that their GMAT score is more variable, what exactly do you mean? Because of their variability, are they riskier than the schools in the higher tiers?
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Duncan

By "don't have the profile they would like in the rankings" I meant that, in 2015 when I wrote that, these schools were present in fewer rankings than the schools in higher tiers. By more variable, I meant that the scores of admitted candidates had a wider range than at schools in higher tiers. This wider range does increase the risk for employers. For example, Warwick introduced a 650 GMAT minimum which means that few MBA graduates there can be really scared of numbers and can pick up on nuance in English. WHU is a bit more open on GMAT scores, partly because the average score in Germany is under 600.

By "don't have the profile they would like in the rankings" I meant that, in 2015 when I wrote that, these schools were present in fewer rankings than the schools in higher tiers. By more variable, I meant that the scores of admitted candidates had a wider range than at schools in higher tiers. This wider range does increase the risk for employers. For example, Warwick introduced a 650 GMAT minimum which means that few MBA graduates there can be really scared of numbers and can pick up on nuance in English. WHU is a bit more open on GMAT scores, partly because the average score in Germany is under 600.
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Duncan

Wow. Over 100,000 views of this post!!

Wow. Over 100,000 views of this post!!
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Hentjoe9

By "don't have the profile they would like in the rankings" I meant that, in 2015 when I wrote that, these schools were present in fewer rankings than the schools in higher tiers. By more variable, I meant that the scores of admitted candidates had a wider range than at schools in higher tiers. This wider range does increase the risk for employers. For example, Warwick introduced a 650 GMAT minimum which means that few MBA graduates there can be really scared of numbers and can pick up on nuance in English. WHU is a bit more open on GMAT scores, partly because the average score in Germany is under 600.

I see. I really appreciate the clarification on this. It's a very useful post!

[quote]By "don't have the profile they would like in the rankings" I meant that, in 2015 when I wrote that, these schools were present in fewer rankings than the schools in higher tiers. By more variable, I meant that the scores of admitted candidates had a wider range than at schools in higher tiers. This wider range does increase the risk for employers. For example, Warwick introduced a 650 GMAT minimum which means that few MBA graduates there can be really scared of numbers and can pick up on nuance in English. WHU is a bit more open on GMAT scores, partly because the average score in Germany is under 600. [/quote]
I see. I really appreciate the clarification on this. It's a very useful post!
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Sam9200

Does an Indian with a 670 GMAT score have any chance at tier 3 schools? I am especially interested in Pennsylvania State University: Smeal and Indiana University: Kelley. Thank you for any guidance. 

Does an Indian with a 670 GMAT score have any chance at tier 3 schools? I am especially interested in Pennsylvania State University: Smeal and Indiana University: Kelley. Thank you for any guidance. 
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Duncan

Read the post at the start of this thread. 

Read the post at the start of this thread. 
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MD2926

Hi. Could you tell me what are the chances of someone landing a job in management when they come from non management background? I for one work as a language trainer. I want to get into University administration. Would it be wise to spend so much on an MBA from tier 3 univeristy? 

Hi. Could you tell me what are the chances of someone landing a job in management when they come from non management background? I for one work as a language trainer. I want to get into University administration. Would it be wise to spend so much on an MBA from tier 3 univeristy? 
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Duncan

Your post doesn't relate to the topic of this thread so I suggest people reply to you on the other thread where you ask a similar question. 

Your post doesn't relate to the topic of this thread so I suggest people reply to you on the other thread where you ask a similar question. 
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Larry

Does an Indian with a 670 GMAT score have any chance at tier 3 schools? I am especially interested in Pennsylvania State University: Smeal and Indiana University: Kelley. Thank you for any guidance. 
I would say there are so many variables to consider that it's almost impossible to say. You are in the range of average GMAT scores for both of these schools, but as you probably known you are in a very competitive applicant group (moreso if you are an IT professional.)
Some other factors in play that would help you: if your background and work experience would add diversity to the classroom; how good your letters of recommendation are (and the quality of the recommender); and the balance of your GMAT score (if your verbal and quant scores are roughly similar.)
If you have concerns about any of the above, then it's probably wise to retake the GMAT and aim for a higher score. 

[quote]Does an Indian with a 670 GMAT score have any chance at tier 3 schools? I am especially interested in&nbsp;Pennsylvania State University: Smeal and&nbsp;Indiana University: Kelley. Thank you for any guidance.&nbsp; [/quote]<div>I would say there are so many variables to consider that it's almost impossible to say. You are in the range of average GMAT scores for both of these schools, but as you probably known you are in a very competitive applicant group (moreso if you are an IT professional.)</div><div><br></div><div>Some other factors in play that would help you: if your background and work experience would add diversity to the classroom; how good your letters of recommendation are (and the quality of the recommender); and the balance of your GMAT score (if your verbal and quant scores are roughly similar.)</div><div><br></div><div>If you have concerns about any of the above, then it's probably wise to retake the GMAT and aim for a higher score.&nbsp;</div>
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Sam9200

Thank you, I will take that into consideration. Does it help that I have two years of international experience?

Thank you, I will take that into consideration. Does it help that I have two years of international experience?
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Hi, Can you please give my profile a guick evaluation?I am Paridhi from India. My GMAT score is 700(Q49V36). I have over 4 years of work experience in IT sector(It would be more than 5 by the time I will join any school). I have experience in both service and product based organisations and I have lead a team of 15 members. I have a more than 6 year of volunteer work experience during my education. The schools I am aiming are LBS, University of Cambridge-Judge, NUS. Can you suggest some schools in US for my profile? Can you also suggest which schools can offer me scholarship?

Hi, Can you please give my profile a guick evaluation?<div>I am Paridhi from India. My GMAT score is 700(Q49V36). I have over 4 years of work experience in IT sector(It would be more than 5 by the time I will join any school). I have experience in both service and product based organisations and I have lead a team of 15 members. I have a more than 6 year of volunteer work experience during my education. The schools I am aiming are LBS, University of Cambridge-Judge, NUS. Can you suggest some schools in US for my profile? Can you also suggest which schools can offer me scholarship?</div>
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Duncan

Did you read the post at the top of this thread? 

Did you read the post at the top of this thread?&nbsp;
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Did you read the post at the top of this thread? 

Hi Duncan,Thanks for your reply!

I did go through the top of this post. As I am from India and belong to IT sector, I wanted to know which schools will be a safe bet, tier 1 or tier 2. Also, which schools can offer me scholarship.

[quote]Did you read the post at the top of this thread?&nbsp; [/quote]<div><br></div><div>Hi Duncan,</div><div>Thanks for your reply!<br></div><div><br></div><div>I did go through the top of this post. As I am from India and belong to IT sector, I wanted to know which schools will be a safe bet, tier 1 or tier 2. Also, which schools can offer me scholarship.</div>
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