accreditation of french business schools


I recently received acceptance from one of France's Grandes Ecoles business schools for a MSc program. It came to my attention that even though the school as a whole is triple accredited (AACSB, AMBA, EQUIS) the specific program I was accepted to has no accreditation either from the Conference Des Grandes Ecoles or from the french government, in few words, the only guarantee the degree has is from the university that offers the program itself.

I would like to ask:
Is this lack of external accreditation an issue in terms of post-graduation visa according to french law?
Does the lack of accreditation have other implications other than the inability to then pursue a PhD?
Should I opt for a somehow similiar program at the same university that is accredited by the Conference des Grandes Ecoles?

I recently received acceptance from one of France's Grandes Ecoles business schools for a MSc program. It came to my attention that even though the school as a whole is triple accredited (AACSB, AMBA, EQUIS) the specific program I was accepted to has no accreditation either from the Conference Des Grandes Ecoles or from the french government, in few words, the only guarantee the degree has is from the university that offers the program itself.

I would like to ask:
Is this lack of external accreditation an issue in terms of post-graduation visa according to french law?
Does the lack of accreditation have other implications other than the inability to then pursue a PhD?
Should I opt for a somehow similiar program at the same university that is accredited by the Conference des Grandes Ecoles?
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Duncan

This is a question for the school or the French embassy, perhaps. I think it's not an immigration issue and, for example, I also see that the EDHEC MSc portfolio is not accredited by the CGE either. https://www.cge.asso.fr/formations-labellisees/liste-formation-msc/ 

The private diplomas are on some prestigious and valuable degrees across mainland Europe (many MiF degrees, specialist degrees in Iberia and Italy)  but in a public sector employment they will not be valued. Ask a graduate, perhaps? 

What I would say is that the CSE accreditation requirements for an MSc or MS are pretty modest so if Edhec does not have them it's probably not a major benefit. 

PS I think your concern is understandable and its also prevented me from taking an executive masters that led to a private diploma.  

[Edited by Duncan on May 28, 2022]

This is a question for the school or the French embassy, perhaps. I think it's not an immigration issue and, for example, I also see that the EDHEC MSc portfolio is not accredited by the CGE either. https://www.cge.asso.fr/formations-labellisees/liste-formation-msc/&nbsp;<br><br>The private diplomas are on some prestigious and valuable degrees across mainland Europe (many MiF degrees, specialist degrees in Iberia and Italy)&nbsp; but in a public sector employment they will not be valued. Ask a graduate, perhaps?&nbsp;<br><br>What I would say is that the CSE accreditation requirements for an MSc or MS are pretty modest so if Edhec does not have them it's probably not a major benefit.&nbsp;<br><br>PS I think your concern is understandable and its also prevented me from taking an executive masters that led to a private diploma.&nbsp;&nbsp;
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Thanks for your response Duncan, I asked the school and also looked into the french lesgislation by myself and luckily I discovered in time that the MSc I was going to be enrolled in, even though from a prestigious institution, being a 100% private diploma, did not qualify for the french post-graduation visa. For whoever reads this, PLEASE be sure that your diploma qualifies for the "recherche d'emploi/creation d'entreprise visa" before you enroll. NOT all masters in France fulfill the legal requirements for this visa.

Thanks for your response Duncan, I asked the school and also looked into the french lesgislation by myself and luckily I discovered in time that the MSc I was going to be enrolled in, even though from a prestigious institution, being a 100% private diploma, did not qualify for the french post-graduation visa. For whoever reads this, PLEASE be sure that your diploma qualifies for the "recherche d'emploi/creation d'entreprise visa" before you enroll. NOT all masters in France fulfill the legal requirements for this visa.
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Ridhima05

Is accreditation an also an issue for the MBA programs in France?

Is accreditation an also an issue for the MBA programs in France?
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Duncan

Quite possibly. From the perspective of najor employers in France, a state degree or a degree accredited by the CGE will seen as a real degree of known value while other "degrees" might be less well well respected,  especially from a no-name school. Also in France and Switzerland there are for profit schools accredited as training providers rather than as higher education providers. They would be accredited at the level of a school for barbers rather than as universities. 

As always, the right path here is to develop a specific goal and then see which schools have the most business graduates in that role, industry and geography.  

Quite possibly. From the perspective of najor employers in France, a state degree or a degree accredited by the CGE will seen as a real degree of known value while other "degrees" might be less well well respected,&nbsp; especially from a no-name school. Also in France and Switzerland there are for profit schools accredited as training providers rather than as higher education providers. They would be accredited at the level of a school for barbers rather than as universities.&nbsp;<br><br>As always, the right path here is to develop a specific goal and then see which schools have the most business graduates in that role, industry and geography.&nbsp;&nbsp;
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Ridhima05

So I got this info from the admissions team. Is this fine?


GMBA is certified by the CNCP (Commission Nationale de la Certification Professionnelle) under the RNCP registration code 35787 

So I got this info from the admissions team. Is this fine?<br>
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