Germany vs UK - MBA or masters course - Best value for money


aslamo

Also, it would be classy to write to him with his diacritical marks, as António or Mr

Magalhães.  

  

If you need help, see my profile page to book a call. I am on Israel time this month.

Thats a neat trick Duncan. 

Also I visited your page How did you manage to educate yourself in so many schools ?? I will certainly book a call once I have the right questions for you.

Your insights are invaluable since you have been all around the world.



Duncan's breadth of academic learning and knowledge on this board are indeed very impressive!


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[quote][quote]Also, it would be classy to write to him with his diacritical marks, as António or Mr<br>
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If you need help, see my profile page to book a call. I am on Israel time this month.</div><div><br></div></div></div> [/quote]<br>Thats a neat trick Duncan.&nbsp;<br><br>Also I visited your page How did you manage to educate yourself in so many schools ?? I will certainly book a call once I have the right questions for you.<br><br>Your insights are invaluable since you have been all around the world.<br> [/quote]<br>
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</div><div>Duncan's breadth of academic learning and knowledge on this board are indeed very impressive!
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Duncan

If you commit yourself to lifelong learning, with a degree every decade and short courses inbetween, then you will also have such a long list in your 50s :)

If you commit yourself to lifelong learning, with a degree every decade and short courses inbetween, then you will also have such a long list in your 50s :)
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arvindr92

Exactly. Without fluent written and spoken German your options are limited with any degree. 

Chambers of commerce offer professional qualifications. They would show that you had developed German competency in a professional setting. 


Hi Duncan,

In India we have branches of the Goethe Institut which takes official German language lessons, would a course here before undertaking the MBA program suffice? 

If one joins the course at an A1/A2 level, is it possible to work your way up to B2 side by side with your MBA? 

[quote]Exactly. Without fluent written and spoken German your options are limited with any degree.&nbsp;<br><br>Chambers of commerce offer professional qualifications. They would show that you had developed German competency in a professional setting.&nbsp; [/quote]<br><br>Hi Duncan,<br><br>In India we have branches of the Goethe Institut which takes official German language lessons, would a course here before undertaking the MBA program suffice?&nbsp;<br><br>If one joins the course at an A1/A2 level, is it possible to work your way up to B2 side by side with your MBA?&nbsp;
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Duncan

I don't think that would be possible in a one year MBA, and I don't see what MBA level jobs are open to people with B2 German. 

I don't think that would be possible in a one year MBA, and I don't see what MBA level jobs are open to people with B2 German.&nbsp;
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Hi @duncan @aslamo @laurie
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(note: I have excluded Imperial, Oxbridge and LBS from my discussion) 

 I Used the Linkedin trick to find out where my target companies recruited from? Target companies: Amazon, Google, Apple, Microsoft,Mckinsey, IBM, Cisco, Samsung, bain & Co etc. 

UCL from UK came on top . I am not sure which programs are the most popular there. I am looking for Strategy manager positions ( key account manager) for advanced tech. Kings college London, Manchester, Warwick , Southampton 

came 2nd-- 

Birmingham, Bristol, Sheffiled, 
TUM , Tu Berlin, RWTH Anchen also topped the numbers.FAU, FOM and Munich unveristy of applied sciences came second.  Post that Frankfurt School also did good alongwith the usual Business schools. I didnt see any particular preference towards Mannheim, WHU or ESMT.Edinburgh also placed well considering its low ranking in the FT. 
Where can I Find data on the specialised masters full time courses with older class demographic? MiM on Ft rankings have  considerably lower salaries than MBA graduates.

Currently colleges which have shown interest in my profile are : Warwick, AMBS, CASS, UCL (MBA) , Mannheim, St Gallen, UBC sauders. Am i Missing something?


<div>Hi @duncan @aslamo @laurie
,</div><br><div>(note: I have excluded Imperial, Oxbridge and LBS from my discussion)&nbsp;</div><br><br><div>&nbsp;I Used the Linkedin trick to find out where my target companies recruited from?&nbsp;</div>Target companies: Amazon, Google, Apple, Microsoft,Mckinsey, IBM, Cisco, Samsung, bain &amp; Co etc.&nbsp;<br><br>UCL from UK came on top . I am not sure which programs are the most popular there. I am looking for Strategy manager positions ( key account manager) for advanced tech. Kings college London, Manchester, Warwick , Southampton&nbsp;<br><br>came 2nd--&nbsp;<br><br>Birmingham, Bristol, Sheffiled,&nbsp;<br><div>TUM , Tu Berlin, RWTH Anchen also topped the numbers.FAU, FOM and Munich unveristy of applied sciences came second.&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp;Post that Frankfurt School also did good alongwith the usual Business schools. I didnt see any particular preference towards Mannheim, WHU or ESMT.</div>Edinburgh also placed well considering its low ranking in the FT.&nbsp;<br><div>Where can I Find data on the specialised masters full time courses with older class demographic? MiM on Ft rankings have&nbsp; considerably lower salaries than MBA graduates.</div><br><br>Currently colleges which have shown interest in my profile are : Warwick, AMBS, CASS, UCL (MBA) , Mannheim, St Gallen, UBC sauders. Am i Missing something?
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Duncan

If UCL or KCL came top, were you searching for MBA in your search? Those people will have taken their MBAs elsewhere, so disregard them. 

If UCL or KCL came top, were you searching for MBA in your search? Those people will have taken their MBAs elsewhere, so disregard them.&nbsp;
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aslamo

If UCL or KCL came top, were you searching for MBA in your search? Those people will have taken their MBAs elsewhere, so disregard them. 


Yes, it sounds like the results might reflect other degrees perhaps? After Oxbridge and Imperial, UCL is considered one of the best universities in the UK, if not Europe, for Computer Science. Kings, Manchester, Warwick and Southampton are all in the next tier below that. I could see some of your target tech companies recruiting people for more technical roles with such a degree from those types of school. 

I'd be very surprised though if the likes of Amazon and the other big tech companies you mentioned, recruit MBAs from the likes of Southampton, never mind McKinsey or Bain. 

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[quote]If UCL or KCL came top, were you searching for MBA in your search? Those people will have taken their MBAs elsewhere, so disregard them.&nbsp; [/quote]<br><br>Yes, it sounds like the results might reflect other degrees perhaps? After Oxbridge and Imperial, UCL is considered one of the best universities in the UK, if not Europe, for Computer Science. Kings, Manchester, Warwick and Southampton are all in the next tier below that. I could see some of your target tech companies recruiting people for more technical roles with such a degree from those types of school.&nbsp;<br><br>I'd be very surprised though if the likes of Amazon and the other big tech companies you mentioned, recruit MBAs from the likes of Southampton, never mind McKinsey or Bain.&nbsp;
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mba hipste...

(note: I have excluded Imperial, Oxbridge and LBS from my discussion)

Any reason why? 

UCL is of course a great university, and quite well known, but it's pretty new to this kind of business education. 

I'd be very surprised though if the likes of Amazon and the other big tech companies you mentioned, recruit MBAs from the likes of Southampton, never mind McKinsey or Bain.

Agreed completely. If MBB is your goal LBS should be your only option, with Oxbridge as a backup. 

[quote](note: I have excluded Imperial, Oxbridge and LBS from my discussion) [/quote]<br>Any reason why?&nbsp;<br><br>UCL is of course a great university, and quite well known, but it's pretty new to this kind of business education.&nbsp;<br><br>[quote]I'd be very surprised though if the likes of Amazon and the other big tech companies you mentioned, recruit MBAs from the likes of Southampton, never mind McKinsey or Bain. [/quote]<br>Agreed completely. If MBB is your goal LBS should be your only option, with Oxbridge as a backup.&nbsp;
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If UCL or KCL came top, were you searching for MBA in your search? Those people will have taken their MBAs elsewhere, so disregard them. 


True , I didnt search for  "MBA" . I search via the Jobs that I would like to apply to in UK. 
From there, I went into the "insights section" , thats where I got to know the schools mentioned. 

[quote]If UCL or KCL came top, were you searching for MBA in your search? Those people will have taken their MBAs elsewhere, so disregard them.&nbsp; [/quote]<br><br>True , I didnt search for&nbsp; "MBA" . I search via the Jobs that I would like to apply to in UK.&nbsp;<br>From there, I went into the "insights section" , thats where I got to know the schools mentioned.&nbsp;<br><br>
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(note: I have excluded Imperial, Oxbridge and LBS from my discussion)

Any reason why? 

The reason I excluded them is because they menitoned that my profile is a bit on the older side and also that " a Male Engineer from India " is a very common profile.
UCL is of course a great university, and quite well known, but it's pretty new to this kind of business education. 

I'd be very surprised though if the likes of Amazon and the other big tech companies you mentioned, recruit MBAs from the likes of Southampton, never mind McKinsey or Bain.

Agreed completely. If MBB is your goal LBS should be your only option, with Oxbridge as a backup. 

[quote][quote](note: I have excluded Imperial, Oxbridge and LBS from my discussion) [/quote]<br>Any reason why?&nbsp;<br><br>The reason I excluded them is because they menitoned that my profile is a bit on the older side and also that " a Male Engineer from India " is a very common profile.<br>UCL is of course a great university, and quite well known, but it's pretty new to this kind of business education.&nbsp;<br><br>[quote]I'd be very surprised though if the likes of Amazon and the other big tech companies you mentioned, recruit MBAs from the likes of Southampton, never mind McKinsey or Bain. [/quote]<br>Agreed completely. If MBB is your goal LBS should be your only option, with Oxbridge as a backup.&nbsp; [/quote]
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Duncan

Don't search Jobs, search People. That gives you a more data. 

Don't search Jobs, search People. That gives you a more data.&nbsp;
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