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kk_kimster

who Angela or Lucy?

There's still time to decide but as of now I'm feeling betrayed and raged and I don't wanna invest 20 lakhs of my money in a country which gives me a hard kick at my balls in return. I'm fucked even more cos I'm late for almost all Canada/US univs as well.

KK

who Angela or Lucy?

There's still time to decide but as of now I'm feeling betrayed and raged and I don't wanna invest 20 lakhs of my money in a country which gives me a hard kick at my balls in return. I'm fucked even more cos I'm late for almost all Canada/US univs as well.

KK
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parulsh04

LOL.............No i spoke 2 carl burns..............I have just a couple of days left 2 accept the offer..........may be i ll ask for an extention

LOL.............No i spoke 2 carl burns..............I have just a couple of days left 2 accept the offer..........may be i ll ask for an extention
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kk_kimster

they don't have an option other than giving extensions cos u are an international student and u pay 10 times more than the EEA students who study for almost free and have no restrictions on work. I regret not applying to Canada univs.

KK

they don't have an option other than giving extensions cos u are an international student and u pay 10 times more than the EEA students who study for almost free and have no restrictions on work. I regret not applying to Canada univs.

KK
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Amit1011

Hi Friends,
I am confused about work visa limit. Is it 1 year or we will get 2-3 months to find job to get work visa. Can anbody confirm.
It is now total mess. Its late to apply for other country. Waiting for 1 year will be long. Admission fees is paid already.

Will this create an opportunity for genuine students or it will be costly deal to just study and come back.
News has created tension and lessened the confidence.

Hi Friends,
I am confused about work visa limit. Is it 1 year or we will get 2-3 months to find job to get work visa. Can anbody confirm.
It is now total mess. Its late to apply for other country. Waiting for 1 year will be long. Admission fees is paid already.

Will this create an opportunity for genuine students or it will be costly deal to just study and come back.
News has created tension and lessened the confidence.
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parulsh04

Well amit..........like KK said, u ll get 3 months after your course to look for a job and thereafter if u r unable 2 find a skilled job, u ll have 2 cum back.............BTW which course n unicersity have u applied for?

Well amit..........like KK said, u ll get 3 months after your course to look for a job and thereafter if u r unable 2 find a skilled job, u ll have 2 cum back.............BTW which course n unicersity have u applied for?
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Amit1011

I have applied to Nottingham University for MBA course. i have confirmed my admission also. But this visa rule has created a tension and doubt in my mind. Now I am worried

I have applied to Nottingham University for MBA course. i have confirmed my admission also. But this visa rule has created a tension and doubt in my mind. Now I am worried
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Guys!

The situation is not as bad as it seems. There is no reason for you to lose confidence.

Your student visa is valid for 16 months while your course is over in 12 months. There is no rulebook that says you cannot search for jobs while you are studying. In fact, most students start contacting consultancies, career services and employers right at the start of the 2nd term. That means, you have more than 10 months to search for a Job.

The closure of PSW is aimed at stopping the abuse of the policy wherein people come for petty english courses, acquire a PSW visa for 2 years, (obviously do not get highly skilled jobs), and then resort to menial (low-skilled) jobs.....thus affecting the demographic for which these jobs are meant.

During my recent interview, the professor from Kingston University said that people who do their MBA and eventually end up working in UK in highly skilled jobs are the ones who do so within the first 3 months after their MBA. Some people get offers even before completion. Usually the top 60% of the class does that at Kingston. Rest is luck.

Consider the scenario where a person does not get a highly skilled job within 4 months after graduating under PSW scheme: In order to survive and cover living expenses, he/she has to resort to low-skilled jobs (waiting tables, supermarket helpers, etc). And believe me, previously if a student did not get a job offer within one year in UK, it would become terribly difficult to get work even during the second year because employers will look at the student differently. Put simply, it is imperative that students find a job immediately after their course or else it is better to pack bags anyway.

Also, the UKBA has announced that for the students taking up one year courses this year (graduating next year), there will be no Resident Labour Market Test for employers if they wish to employ these students......In my opinion, this is a big advantage. It means that employers no longer need to prefer resident students ( UK and EU) as first choice, and then look at international students if they dont find resident labour for the advertised posts. This wasnt the case before.

So there is no reason to lose confidence. Trust you abilities and go for it. There is a little bit of risk, but hey! isnt that risk in everyting that we do nowadays? Rest is your luck. Do keep in mind that next year UK universities will be increasing their fees two-fold in order to match with the US universities. So, now is the right time..... All the best!

Guys!

The situation is not as bad as it seems. There is no reason for you to lose confidence.

Your student visa is valid for 16 months while your course is over in 12 months. There is no rulebook that says you cannot search for jobs while you are studying. In fact, most students start contacting consultancies, career services and employers right at the start of the 2nd term. That means, you have more than 10 months to search for a Job.

The closure of PSW is aimed at stopping the abuse of the policy wherein people come for petty english courses, acquire a PSW visa for 2 years, (obviously do not get highly skilled jobs), and then resort to menial (low-skilled) jobs.....thus affecting the demographic for which these jobs are meant.

During my recent interview, the professor from Kingston University said that people who do their MBA and eventually end up working in UK in highly skilled jobs are the ones who do so within the first 3 months after their MBA. Some people get offers even before completion. Usually the top 60% of the class does that at Kingston. Rest is luck.

Consider the scenario where a person does not get a highly skilled job within 4 months after graduating under PSW scheme: In order to survive and cover living expenses, he/she has to resort to low-skilled jobs (waiting tables, supermarket helpers, etc). And believe me, previously if a student did not get a job offer within one year in UK, it would become terribly difficult to get work even during the second year because employers will look at the student differently. Put simply, it is imperative that students find a job immediately after their course or else it is better to pack bags anyway.

Also, the UKBA has announced that for the students taking up one year courses this year (graduating next year), there will be no Resident Labour Market Test for employers if they wish to employ these students......In my opinion, this is a big advantage. It means that employers no longer need to prefer resident students ( UK and EU) as first choice, and then look at international students if they dont find resident labour for the advertised posts. This wasnt the case before.

So there is no reason to lose confidence. Trust you abilities and go for it. There is a little bit of risk, but hey! isnt that risk in everyting that we do nowadays? Rest is your luck. Do keep in mind that next year UK universities will be increasing their fees two-fold in order to match with the US universities. So, now is the right time..... All the best!
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Cheer Up! take a look at the link below. I am sure by the time this year's batch graduates next year, the UK economy will be shaping up... :)


http://www.careerbuilder.co.uk/Article/CB-333-No-Category-9-companies-hiring-in-April/?lr=int_ukyahoo&siteid=int_ukyahoo_CB333

Cheer Up! take a look at the link below. I am sure by the time this year's batch graduates next year, the UK economy will be shaping up... :)


http://www.careerbuilder.co.uk/Article/CB-333-No-Category-9-companies-hiring-in-April/?lr=int_ukyahoo&siteid=int_ukyahoo_CB333
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Amit1011

Asif You have explained a very good point. Surely new visa rule will create opportunity for international students.
I was concern about time period available after studies to find the job. I think atleat 1 year is ideal time to find a job. But what can happen in 12 months can be done in 8 months also.
Thanks for ur information and explaination.

Asif You have explained a very good point. Surely new visa rule will create opportunity for international students.
I was concern about time period available after studies to find the job. I think atleat 1 year is ideal time to find a job. But what can happen in 12 months can be done in 8 months also.
Thanks for ur information and explaination.
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What have you guys decided? I might be joining you in Nottingham this year. I will make a decision next week though!

I never thought that even after receiving so many offers I'll be in such a pensive state. Damn you UKBA and Theresa May. lol.

What have you guys decided? I might be joining you in Nottingham this year. I will make a decision next week though!

I never thought that even after receiving so many offers I'll be in such a pensive state. Damn you UKBA and Theresa May. lol.
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Amit1011

I have decided to join Nottingham. Some amount of risk has to be taken. I am bored by this job and lifestyle. Atleast I will do what i am interested in. Anyhow Will find some way.

I have decided to join Nottingham. Some amount of risk has to be taken. I am bored by this job and lifestyle. Atleast I will do what i am interested in. Anyhow Will find some way.
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That is the right way to go. I am sure there is a silver lining to this cloud as well. Lesser number of people joining UK B-schools this year means lesser number of people flooding the market once this year's class graduates. (Less Competition)

That is the right way to go. I am sure there is a silver lining to this cloud as well. Lesser number of people joining UK B-schools this year means lesser number of people flooding the market once this year's class graduates. (Less Competition)
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I have applied to Nottingham University for MBA course. i have confirmed my admission also. But this visa rule has created a tension and doubt in my mind. Now I am worried


Hi Amit,

I am in the same situation in which you are. What are you going to do? If there is no PSW it is better to drop as investing 20 lakhs is huge risk. I paid 1000 lbp for deposite. What you say ?

<blockquote> I have applied to Nottingham University for MBA course. i have confirmed my admission also. But this visa rule has created a tension and doubt in my mind. Now I am worried</blockquote>

Hi Amit,

I am in the same situation in which you are. What are you going to do? If there is no PSW it is better to drop as investing 20 lakhs is huge risk. I paid 1000 lbp for deposite. What you say ?
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parulsh04

u hav already paid d deposit...........r u gonna let dat money go 2 waste......

u hav already paid d deposit...........r u gonna let dat money go 2 waste......
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u hav already paid d deposit...........r u gonna let dat money go 2 waste......


You can get the money back if your visa gets rejected. File the visa with wrong information. I hope loosing 70k is better than putting 20 lakhs in risk,,.. what u say?

<blockquote>u hav already paid d deposit...........r u gonna let dat money go 2 waste......</blockquote>

You can get the money back if your visa gets rejected. File the visa with wrong information. I hope loosing 70k is better than putting 20 lakhs in risk,,.. what u say?
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parulsh04

wow dats an idea...........but i think im gonna take my chances...........if nothin else i ll have a degree under my belt after a year. i ll also b saving a year.......so i think m gonna take d plunge neway

wow dats an idea...........but i think im gonna take my chances...........if nothin else i ll have a degree under my belt after a year. i ll also b saving a year.......so i think m gonna take d plunge neway
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Hey......the discussion is interesting but pointless. Now we all know the intent of the UK government which is to thwart any attempts by non-UK/EU students to grab local jobs from April next year onwards. In a nutshell, the UK government wants to maintain your status as "STUDENT" for one year and then send you packing back to your home country. Even if you begin your job search immediately after landing in UK, there is no possibility for you to get one even by the time you finish your MBA. So my advice is not to be too optimistic for job prospects in UK. If you think UK MBA can give that 'special touch' to your CV and elevate your career to a new level, then just go for it. Otherwise, look elsewhere.

Hey......the discussion is interesting but pointless. Now we all know the intent of the UK government which is to thwart any attempts by non-UK/EU students to grab local jobs from April next year onwards. In a nutshell, the UK government wants to maintain your status as "STUDENT" for one year and then send you packing back to your home country. Even if you begin your job search immediately after landing in UK, there is no possibility for you to get one even by the time you finish your MBA. So my advice is not to be too optimistic for job prospects in UK. If you think UK MBA can give that 'special touch' to your CV and elevate your career to a new level, then just go for it. Otherwise, look elsewhere.
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Amit1011

< It seem that everybody knows what is going to happen in future. everyone is talking like an expert who has knowledge about the market condition. Playing safe gives only less return. I have my friends who have done MSc with no work exp and doing job in law firm as retail store manager as full time employee. It is w.r.t there study
Next thing if one needs a job I must look at placement agency for it, B-school that too reputed one is not right palce.
If this step fails then still there is time to recover. I guess eveybody is below 28 here.

Only one equation works more risk more gain or no gain. Big thing requires big decision.

< It seem that everybody knows what is going to happen in future. everyone is talking like an expert who has knowledge about the market condition. Playing safe gives only less return. I have my friends who have done MSc with no work exp and doing job in law firm as retail store manager as full time employee. It is w.r.t there study
Next thing if one needs a job I must look at placement agency for it, B-school that too reputed one is not right palce.
If this step fails then still there is time to recover. I guess eveybody is below 28 here.

Only one equation works more risk more gain or no gain. Big thing requires big decision.
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Mamit

u hav already paid d deposit...........r u gonna let dat money go 2 waste......


You can get the money back if your visa gets rejected. File the visa with wrong information. I hope loosing 70k is better than putting 20 lakhs in risk,,.. what u say?


Hi I would not suggest you to do such thing and get your Visa rejected.. coz rejection stamp on your passport is a very big thing and it will effect your future Visa applications to UK or any other country. its better to get away with 70K rather than getting a rejection stamp.

<blockquote><blockquote>u hav already paid d deposit...........r u gonna let dat money go 2 waste......</blockquote>

You can get the money back if your visa gets rejected. File the visa with wrong information. I hope loosing 70k is better than putting 20 lakhs in risk,,.. what u say?</blockquote>

Hi I would not suggest you to do such thing and get your Visa rejected.. coz rejection stamp on your passport is a very big thing and it will effect your future Visa applications to UK or any other country. its better to get away with 70K rather than getting a rejection stamp.
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Mamit

Hey......the discussion is interesting but pointless. Now we all know the intent of the UK government which is to thwart any attempts by non-UK/EU students to grab local jobs from April next year onwards. In a nutshell, the UK government wants to maintain your status as "STUDENT" for one year and then send you packing back to your home country. Even if you begin your job search immediately after landing in UK, there is no possibility for you to get one even by the time you finish your MBA. So my advice is not to be too optimistic for job prospects in UK. If you think UK MBA can give that 'special touch' to your CV and elevate your career to a new level, then just go for it. Otherwise, look elsewhere.

Hi,
Its not that UK govt wants to get rid of international students or employees from out side EU, but what they actually want is genuine students and highly skilled employees who can add value to the british economy and by scrapping PSW they actually wants to achieve this, more than 90% PSW visa holders are working in Mc Donalds KFC , etc etc after attaining Masters Degree and spoiling their entire career just for few bucks... however by providing Tier 2 route instead of PSW they only want to retain students who have caliber to attain jobs in their own field.

<blockquote>Hey......the discussion is interesting but pointless. Now we all know the intent of the UK government which is to thwart any attempts by non-UK/EU students to grab local jobs from April next year onwards. In a nutshell, the UK government wants to maintain your status as "STUDENT" for one year and then send you packing back to your home country. Even if you begin your job search immediately after landing in UK, there is no possibility for you to get one even by the time you finish your MBA. So my advice is not to be too optimistic for job prospects in UK. If you think UK MBA can give that 'special touch' to your CV and elevate your career to a new level, then just go for it. Otherwise, look elsewhere. </blockquote>
Hi,
Its not that UK govt wants to get rid of international students or employees from out side EU, but what they actually want is genuine students and highly skilled employees who can add value to the british economy and by scrapping PSW they actually wants to achieve this, more than 90% PSW visa holders are working in Mc Donalds KFC , etc etc after attaining Masters Degree and spoiling their entire career just for few bucks... however by providing Tier 2 route instead of PSW they only want to retain students who have caliber to attain jobs in their own field.
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