Strathclyde or Henley?


Hello,

I did get into Strathclyde and Henley. Where shall I go? I am 28years old with 7 years of experience in energy sector company.

For both fees is same, around GBP 26000

I have applied by scholarship at Henley and I am expecting around 30-50% scholarship.

I am concerned with reputation of both college. Strathclyde is ranked in both FT and The Economist rankings but Henley isn't ranked in FT or this year's The Economist ranking.

Further, Strathclyde has placement record of 94% after 6 months, which is among the top in the world.
http://poetsandquants.com/2014/01/27/best-worst-2013-mba-job-placement-for-international-schools/2/

But I am bit worried that Scotland's economy at present isn't very good.

Can you please guide me or give some inputs? I want to work in energy sector only after MBA and want to work in Europe only.

Thank you.

Hello,

I did get into Strathclyde and Henley. Where shall I go? I am 28years old with 7 years of experience in energy sector company.

For both fees is same, around GBP 26000

I have applied by scholarship at Henley and I am expecting around 30-50% scholarship.

I am concerned with reputation of both college. Strathclyde is ranked in both FT and The Economist rankings but Henley isn't ranked in FT or this year's The Economist ranking.

Further, Strathclyde has placement record of 94% after 6 months, which is among the top in the world.
http://poetsandquants.com/2014/01/27/best-worst-2013-mba-job-placement-for-international-schools/2/

But I am bit worried that Scotland's economy at present isn't very good.

Can you please guide me or give some inputs? I want to work in energy sector only after MBA and want to work in Europe only.

Thank you.
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Duncan

Strathclyde. GDP growth in Scotland has been slightly higher than in the UK recently.

Strathclyde. GDP growth in Scotland has been slightly higher than in the UK recently.
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Strathclyde. GDP growth in Scotland has been slightly higher than in the UK recently.


Thank you.

<blockquote>Strathclyde. GDP growth in Scotland has been slightly higher than in the UK recently.</blockquote>

Thank you.
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Duncan, I did get interview invitation from University of Bath (UOB) and University of Dublin (UCD), and I was wondering if I did really good on these interviews and get admitted to UOB and UCD also. What will you suggest then from these then Henley, Strathclyde, UOB or UCD?

Duncan, I did get interview invitation from University of Bath (UOB) and University of Dublin (UCD), and I was wondering if I did really good on these interviews and get admitted to UOB and UCD also. What will you suggest then from these then Henley, Strathclyde, UOB or UCD?

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Duncan

Generally I would reply on the salary data, and the FT international mobility score: it's a very good guide to outcomes.

Also see How to use LinkedIn to find the best school www.find-mba.com/board/33571
I'd put Strathclyde first, then UCD, then Bath.

Generally I would reply on the salary data, and the FT international mobility score: it's a very good guide to outcomes.

Also see How to use LinkedIn to find the best school www.find-mba.com/board/33571
I'd put Strathclyde first, then UCD, then Bath.
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Thank you Duncan!

How about Durham? As I started writing this post I got interview invitation from Durham also :)

Now can you please rank all these colleges keeping in mind that I want to work in energy sector and in Europe.

Thank you for your guidance.

Thank you Duncan!

How about Durham? As I started writing this post I got interview invitation from Durham also :)

Now can you please rank all these colleges keeping in mind that I want to work in energy sector and in Europe.

Thank you for your guidance.
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Duncan

That would take more time than I really have, since I am sure you'd them come back and ask about other schools. Use the FT rankings and the LinkedIn method and you can work this out yourself.

That would take more time than I really have, since I am sure you'd them come back and ask about other schools. Use the FT rankings and the LinkedIn method and you can work this out yourself.
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Duncan, you said look at salary data but I think this salary data can be misleading because with Strathclyde around 30% students are from Asia (mainly India) and in India average salary is very much less than the average salary in Europe or USA. (I am from India and my salary at present is around GBP 12000 per year and I think this is the kind of highest with 7 years of experience in India. I think average would be around GBP 8000)

As per FT, salary increase is around 100% so I think it is because students before going to MBA had less salary hence same was reflected in increase after MBA.

Am I thinking so much or this is valid hypothesis?

Thank you once again!

Duncan, you said look at salary data but I think this salary data can be misleading because with Strathclyde around 30% students are from Asia (mainly India) and in India average salary is very much less than the average salary in Europe or USA. (I am from India and my salary at present is around GBP 12000 per year and I think this is the kind of highest with 7 years of experience in India. I think average would be around GBP 8000)

As per FT, salary increase is around 100% so I think it is because students before going to MBA had less salary hence same was reflected in increase after MBA.

Am I thinking so much or this is valid hypothesis?

Thank you once again!
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Duncan

Of course most students on all of these courses will be international students, and most of those will be non-EU students, and most of those will be from India. I don't think that's really a difference about Strathclyde, is it? A 100% salary increase is actually pretty typical for the top 100 FT programmes.

It might be that you are right, but to do that you'd need to find that what percentage of the graduates of these MBA programmes was returning to India. Remember, Strathclyde has a very high score for international mobility.

Of course most students on all of these courses will be international students, and most of those will be non-EU students, and most of those will be from India. I don't think that's really a difference about Strathclyde, is it? A 100% salary increase is actually pretty typical for the top 100 FT programmes.

It might be that you are right, but to do that you'd need to find that what percentage of the graduates of these MBA programmes was returning to India. Remember, Strathclyde has a very high score for international mobility.
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Of course most students on all of these courses will be international students, and most of those will be non-EU students, and most of those will be from India. I don't think that's really a difference about Strathclyde, is it? A 100% salary increase is actually pretty typical for the top 100 FT programmes.

It might be that you are right, but to do that you'd need to find that what percentage of the graduates of these MBA programmes was returning to India. Remember, Strathclyde has a very high score for international mobility.


Yeah, I talked to 3 alumni from Strathclyde and I am really impressed the way they all have mentioned good things about Strathclyde. Yes, around 25% students are from India at Strathclyde business school.

Yeah, I checked about international mobility rank, it has around 20th in the world. I believe that is quite impressive!

Now, Duncan can you please help me decide where to go from the following b-schools, as I have offer from there schools. (Ok, I promise this is my final call :) )

Strathclyde (UK)
University of Bath (UK)
Durham Business School (UK)
Henley Business School (UK)
ESSEC (France)
WHU (Germany)
CEU (Hungary)
Ashridge (UK and ) University of St.Gallen (Switzerland) - not confirmed yet but I am expecting Yes from these also.

Fees with all (except CEU) of them is around GBP 25000-30000

I don't know why I am getting inclined to Strathclyde Business School after researching about these colleges. Can you please give your inputs so that I can make a good decision. Let me mention again that I want to work in Energy sector only after MBA.

Thank you so much Duncan!

<blockquote>Of course most students on all of these courses will be international students, and most of those will be non-EU students, and most of those will be from India. I don't think that's really a difference about Strathclyde, is it? A 100% salary increase is actually pretty typical for the top 100 FT programmes.

It might be that you are right, but to do that you'd need to find that what percentage of the graduates of these MBA programmes was returning to India. Remember, Strathclyde has a very high score for international mobility. </blockquote>

Yeah, I talked to 3 alumni from Strathclyde and I am really impressed the way they all have mentioned good things about Strathclyde. Yes, around 25% students are from India at Strathclyde business school.

Yeah, I checked about international mobility rank, it has around 20th in the world. I believe that is quite impressive!

Now, Duncan can you please help me decide where to go from the following b-schools, as I have offer from there schools. (Ok, I promise this is my final call :) )

Strathclyde (UK)
University of Bath (UK)
Durham Business School (UK)
Henley Business School (UK)
ESSEC (France)
WHU (Germany)
CEU (Hungary)
Ashridge (UK and ) University of St.Gallen (Switzerland) - not confirmed yet but I am expecting Yes from these also.

Fees with all (except CEU) of them is around GBP 25000-30000

I don't know why I am getting inclined to Strathclyde Business School after researching about these colleges. Can you please give your inputs so that I can make a good decision. Let me mention again that I want to work in Energy sector only after MBA.

Thank you so much Duncan!
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Duncan

That would take more time than I really have, since I am sure you'd them come back and ask about other schools. Use the FT rankings and the LinkedIn method and you can work this out yourself.

That would take more time than I really have, since I am sure you'd them come back and ask about other schools. Use the FT rankings and the LinkedIn method and you can work this out yourself.
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That would take more time than I really have, since I am sure you'd them come back and ask about other schools. Use the FT rankings and the LinkedIn method and you can work this out yourself.


From all my research and analysis Strathclyde (UK) seems better for me and I have decided to go there only.

Thank you for all your help Duncan.

Best regards

<blockquote>That would take more time than I really have, since I am sure you'd them come back and ask about other schools. Use the FT rankings and the LinkedIn method and you can work this out yourself.</blockquote>

From all my research and analysis Strathclyde (UK) seems better for me and I have decided to go there only.

Thank you for all your help Duncan.

Best regards
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That would take more time than I really have, since I am sure you'd them come back and ask about other schools. Use the FT rankings and the LinkedIn method and you can work this out yourself.


Update -

I did get 50% scholarship from Henley Business School (Not ranked in FT Global and 53rd in FT European college ranking) and I did get into Ashridge Business School(Not ranked in FT Global but 45th in FT European college ranking), Durham Business School(ranked 97th in FT Global and 52nd in FT European college ranking), Aston Business School (Not ranked in FT Global but 47th in FT European college ranking) and University of Bath (ranked 84th by FT global and 50th in European college ranking) also. I already have offer from Strathclyde Business School (SBS) and CEU Business School.

After 50% scholarship from Henley total fees would be around GBP 13000 and with rest of them is around GBP 25000.

SBS is ranked by FT at 73rd Globally, 29th in Europe and by The Economist at 40th place in world. It has placement record of 94% after 3 months. http://poetsandquants.com/2014/01/27/best-worst-2013-mba-job-placement-for-international-schools/2/

SBS was ranked 4th in the world in ?Corporate Strategy? category by Financial Times? 2014 Specialized Ranking http://im.ft-static.com/content/images/38fd980a-81d4-11e3-a600-00144feab7de.pdf

http://gmatclub.com/blog/2014/02/the-specialization-rankings-by-financial-times/

What you guys suggest now? Is it okay to save GBP 12000 now or shall I go for highest ranked B-school after taking loan from bank (Strathclyde Business School) for long term benefits? Or it doesn't matter much when college is not among top 50 or so?

Any help will be much appreciated!

<blockquote>That would take more time than I really have, since I am sure you'd them come back and ask about other schools. Use the FT rankings and the LinkedIn method and you can work this out yourself.</blockquote>

Update -

I did get 50% scholarship from Henley Business School (Not ranked in FT Global and 53rd in FT European college ranking) and I did get into Ashridge Business School(Not ranked in FT Global but 45th in FT European college ranking), Durham Business School(ranked 97th in FT Global and 52nd in FT European college ranking), Aston Business School (Not ranked in FT Global but 47th in FT European college ranking) and University of Bath (ranked 84th by FT global and 50th in European college ranking) also. I already have offer from Strathclyde Business School (SBS) and CEU Business School.

After 50% scholarship from Henley total fees would be around GBP 13000 and with rest of them is around GBP 25000.

SBS is ranked by FT at 73rd Globally, 29th in Europe and by The Economist at 40th place in world. It has placement record of 94% after 3 months. http://poetsandquants.com/2014/01/27/best-worst-2013-mba-job-placement-for-international-schools/2/

SBS was ranked 4th in the world in ?Corporate Strategy? category by Financial Times? 2014 Specialized Ranking http://im.ft-static.com/content/images/38fd980a-81d4-11e3-a600-00144feab7de.pdf

http://gmatclub.com/blog/2014/02/the-specialization-rankings-by-financial-times/

What you guys suggest now? Is it okay to save GBP 12000 now or shall I go for highest ranked B-school after taking loan from bank (Strathclyde Business School) for long term benefits? Or it doesn't matter much when college is not among top 50 or so?

Any help will be much appreciated!
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I have also offer from Strathclyde and Henley. Henley has offered scholarship of 15000 (i think I wrote a great essay). Strathclyde has not offered any scholarship so far. However, in a recent development Cass has offered me a place as well. No scholarships. I had a joyful interview and the same went on for around 45 minutes which was longer than anything I have gone through so far. But honestly the offer did surprise me due to low GMAT. I an now in a fix myself. They do have a funding programme of collateral free loan where I have applied.

I have also offer from Strathclyde and Henley. Henley has offered scholarship of 15000 (i think I wrote a great essay). Strathclyde has not offered any scholarship so far. However, in a recent development Cass has offered me a place as well. No scholarships. I had a joyful interview and the same went on for around 45 minutes which was longer than anything I have gone through so far. But honestly the offer did surprise me due to low GMAT. I an now in a fix myself. They do have a funding programme of collateral free loan where I have applied.
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Duncan

Please base your decision based on the outcomes rather than the scholarships. The differences in scholarships are tiny compared to the outcomes. Read The sad facts about scholarships http://www.find-mba.com/board/37055

Please base your decision based on the outcomes rather than the scholarships. The differences in scholarships are tiny compared to the outcomes. Read The sad facts about scholarships http://www.find-mba.com/board/37055
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Yes, as always I have read that post of yours and its intriguing, reading without which Henley would seem a certainty. But I am myself from that school of view now. As a former student of Cass and as someone who is into thick of these things including studies at many school, how would you rate Cass experience, curriculum and development of students in terms of employability as compared to other schools? Henley is crtainly not there in FT ranking and perhaps that says it all but during interview I asked them this question and their reply was that a very small cohort does not allow them to participate in rankings.

Yes, as always I have read that post of yours and its intriguing, reading without which Henley would seem a certainty. But I am myself from that school of view now. As a former student of Cass and as someone who is into thick of these things including studies at many school, how would you rate Cass experience, curriculum and development of students in terms of employability as compared to other schools? Henley is crtainly not there in FT ranking and perhaps that says it all but during interview I asked them this question and their reply was that a very small cohort does not allow them to participate in rankings.
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Duncan

30 is the minimum size for the rankings, and Henley is surely larger than that.

I studied in Cass's sister school of business computing at City University's main campus, not at the Cass school. We had some teachers from CUBS, as it was called then, and they were pretty good. But employability is really shown by the ranking data, and you have already noted the challenging situation for non-EU students at UK schools.

30 is the minimum size for the rankings, and Henley is surely larger than that.

I studied in Cass's sister school of business computing at City University's main campus, not at the Cass school. We had some teachers from CUBS, as it was called then, and they were pretty good. But employability is really shown by the ranking data, and you have already noted the challenging situation for non-EU students at UK schools.
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No, you are wrong this time. Henley had 22 students last year and in current batch there are only 28 people! I confirmed it from school and same from current students.

P.S. I have talked to 15 past and current students!

No, you are wrong this time. Henley had 22 students last year and in current batch there are only 28 people! I confirmed it from school and same from current students.

P.S. I have talked to 15 past and current students!
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No, you are wrong this time. Henley had 22 students last year and in current batch there are only 28 people! I confirmed it from school and same from current students.

P.S. I have talked to 15 past and current students!

No, you are wrong this time. Henley had 22 students last year and in current batch there are only 28 people! I confirmed it from school and same from current students.

P.S. I have talked to 15 past and current students!
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Duncan

I struggle to see how Henley can have the sort of career support which full-time MBAs need, in that case. I attended a course there with some MBAs, and I did not get the feeling that placement was especially strong there.

I struggle to see how Henley can have the sort of career support which full-time MBAs need, in that case. I attended a course there with some MBAs, and I did not get the feeling that placement was especially strong there.
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