Best MBAs for international students' placement


Duncan

Again, I invite you to review the list at the top of the page. I did not mention the US.

Again, I invite you to review the list at the top of the page. I did not mention the US.
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nishroma

Thank you very much Duncan. I will see the list at top.

Thank you very much Duncan. I will see the list at top.
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nishroma

one more thing, i like to ask.. i have got cal from European University(EU) Munich campus for admission to MBA, So can you please suggest me, how is the job or placement after studying from this school and what is the ranking of it? And which course is good in terms of study , because i am working in IT, and i have no background of banking,finance, investment etc. So which course is good for me to take?

Thanks

one more thing, i like to ask.. i have got cal from European University(EU) Munich campus for admission to MBA, So can you please suggest me, how is the job or placement after studying from this school and what is the ranking of it? And which course is good in terms of study , because i am working in IT, and i have no background of banking,finance, investment etc. So which course is good for me to take?

Thanks
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Duncan

That is not a good school. I suggest you limit yourself to schools with the legal right to issue degrees in the country where you will study.

That is not a good school. I suggest you limit yourself to schools with the legal right to issue degrees in the country where you will study.
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nishroma

Hi Duncan

Thanks for your advise. Can you also tell me, how i can know about the legal right to issue degrees in the country where i will study, which you mention above.

Thanks

Hi Duncan

Thanks for your advise. Can you also tell me, how i can know about the legal right to issue degrees in the country where i will study, which you mention above.

Thanks
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Duncan

Well, that is a little tricky since the process differs from country to country. In the case of Germany, there is a central database: http://www.hochschulkompass.de/en/higher-education-institutions/search-for-a-higher-education-institution.html

Well, that is a little tricky since the process differs from country to country. In the case of Germany, there is a central database: http://www.hochschulkompass.de/en/higher-education-institutions/search-for-a-higher-education-institution.html
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Duncan

Generally, I could suggest you start with the ministry of education website. Often there are central websites, often with names like study-in-_countryname_.com which are state-sponsored. Sometimes there is a state-recognised accreditation body. A good rule of thumb is to look for one of the three accreditation bodies as well: EQUIS/EFMD, AMBA and AACSB.

[Edited by Duncan on Mar 08, 2018]

Generally, I could suggest you start with the ministry of education website. Often there are central websites, often with names like study-in-_countryname_.com which are state-sponsored. Sometimes there is a state-recognised accreditation body. A good rule of thumb is to look for one of the three accreditation bodies as well: EQUIS/EFMD, AMBA and AACSB.
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Hi Duncan,

May I know your opinion about ESMT and EDHEC? Will it help better to get job in Germany or France even if the candidate does not know German or French? Their respective websites are very positive for international students.

Hi Duncan,

May I know your opinion about ESMT and EDHEC? Will it help better to get job in Germany or France even if the candidate does not know German or French? Their respective websites are very positive for international students.
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Duncan

Well of course it helps, but if you don't learn the language before starting the MBA then your opportunities are very limited. See: Do you need to speak the local language? www.find-mba.com/board/34713

Well of course it helps, but if you don't learn the language before starting the MBA then your opportunities are very limited. See: Do you need to speak the local language? www.find-mba.com/board/34713
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Dion_T



3-year average rank. School name
3 London Business School
7 Iese Business School
12 IE Business School
15 University of Cambridge: Judge
19 HEC Paris
21 Esade Business School
23 University of Oxford: Saïd
30 Warwick Business School
33 National University of Singapore Business School
37 Nanyang Business School
42 Imperial College Business School
43 Cranfield School of Management
62 AGSM at UNSW Business School
63 Mannheim Business School
66 Lancaster University Management School
73 Melbourne Business School
79 University of St Gallen
80 University of Bath School of Management
80 University of Strathclyde Business School
Birmingham Business School

This list is very useful, thanks!

One question, Iese and IE Business School are placed highly here, they're obviously in Spain but does either provide much leverage for somebody who wants to make his career in Brazil?

Thanks!

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3-year average rank. School name
3 London Business School
7 Iese Business School
12 IE Business School
15 University of Cambridge: Judge
19 HEC Paris
21 Esade Business School
23 University of Oxford: Saïd
30 Warwick Business School
33 National University of Singapore Business School
37 Nanyang Business School
42 Imperial College Business School
43 Cranfield School of Management
62 AGSM at UNSW Business School
63 Mannheim Business School
66 Lancaster University Management School
73 Melbourne Business School
79 University of St Gallen
80 University of Bath School of Management
80 University of Strathclyde Business School
Birmingham Business School[/quote]
This list is very useful, thanks!

One question, Iese and IE Business School are placed highly here, they're obviously in Spain but does either provide much leverage for somebody who wants to make his career in Brazil?

Thanks!
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Duncan

Personal networking is key in Brazil. If you already have a network in Brazil, then the MIT-Lisbon program or one of the top Spanish schools will provide a good balance between a good education and a good network (See also How to use LinkedIn to find the best school www.find-mba.com/board/33571). However, if you are not already someone with a network in Brazil, then you will need to study there and focus on building your network.

Personal networking is key in Brazil. If you already have a network in Brazil, then the MIT-Lisbon program or one of the top Spanish schools will provide a good balance between a good education and a good network (See also How to use LinkedIn to find the best school www.find-mba.com/board/33571). However, if you are not already someone with a network in Brazil, then you will need to study there and focus on building your network.
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Hello Duncan,
Do you think HEC Paris is a better school than IMD? Can you please explain your answer. I was accepted to both.

I have read many of your responses and I find you to be well informed.

I am in banking in Africa. I am looking for the best school to find me a high paying job. I dont know what sector or where I want to work after my MBA.
Thank you,

Hello Duncan,
Do you think HEC Paris is a better school than IMD? Can you please explain your answer. I was accepted to both.

I have read many of your responses and I find you to be well informed.

I am in banking in Africa. I am looking for the best school to find me a high paying job. I dont know what sector or where I want to work after my MBA.
Thank you,
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Duncan

Why don't you think about what you want to do, and what sort of course will best suit you? IMD is very intensive, while the education at HEC is more extensive, and gives more flexibility. The student quality is higher at IMD and, f you want higher salary, that is a better school.

Why don't you think about what you want to do, and what sort of course will best suit you? IMD is very intensive, while the education at HEC is more extensive, and gives more flexibility. The student quality is higher at IMD and, f you want higher salary, that is a better school.
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Hi Duncan,

That's very useful information on that list. Is there a similar list for US & Canadian schools?
Or could I gather this information in another way. Please share your feedback.

Thanks

Hi Duncan,

That's very useful information on that list. Is there a similar list for US & Canadian schools?
Or could I gather this information in another way. Please share your feedback.

Thanks
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Duncan

I used the FT ranking, which includes US data. It's just that none of the US schools get into the top 20 using my method. You could use the same data, and the same approach, but exclude the non-US schools.

I used the FT ranking, which includes US data. It's just that none of the US schools get into the top 20 using my method. You could use the same data, and the same approach, but exclude the non-US schools.
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Duncan

Okay: here is the same analysis, using only the US schools....

3 Stanford Graduate School of Business
5 Columbia Business School
8 MIT: Sloan
9 University of Chicago: Booth
11 University of California at Berkeley: Haas
14 Northwestern University: Kellogg
18 New York University: Stern
19 Duke University: Fuqua
20 Dartmouth College: Tuck
26 Cornell University: Johnson
31 University of Virginia: Darden
38 Carnegie Mellon: Tepper
38 Rice University: Jones
48 University of California at Irvine: Merage
50 University of Maryland: Smith
50 Emory University: Goizueta
56 Michigan State University: Broad
66 University of Rochester: Simon
83 Arizona State University: Carey
83 Babson College: Olin
91 University of California, San Diego: Rady

Okay: here is the same analysis, using only the US schools....

3 Stanford Graduate School of Business
5 Columbia Business School
8 MIT: Sloan
9 University of Chicago: Booth
11 University of California at Berkeley: Haas
14 Northwestern University: Kellogg
18 New York University: Stern
19 Duke University: Fuqua
20 Dartmouth College: Tuck
26 Cornell University: Johnson
31 University of Virginia: Darden
38 Carnegie Mellon: Tepper
38 Rice University: Jones
48 University of California at Irvine: Merage
50 University of Maryland: Smith
50 Emory University: Goizueta
56 Michigan State University: Broad
66 University of Rochester: Simon
83 Arizona State University: Carey
83 Babson College: Olin
91 University of California, San Diego: Rady
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carinas

Hi Duncan,

I am interested in the UK schools for studying for a MBA. My career goal after the graduation is to work in the oil & gas industry. One of the leading consultancies could be an option too. I have 12 years of work experience in communications, external affairs, business development, and government relations - including working for an international oil company. And I'd like to find a job in the UK after the graduation.

I have done my research and now am looking at Bath, Durham, Newcastle, Robert Gordon University, and the University of Glasgow. I spoke recently to an international MBA student at Bath, who said that the school's career development service and students' placement are extremely poor. If one looks at the schools' websites, they all say how great they are with their career development support and job placements.

Can you please share your expert view on which one from Bath, Durham, Newcastle, Robert Gordon University, and the University of Glasgow business schools would be best to choose and why.

Thanks.

Carina

Hi Duncan,

I am interested in the UK schools for studying for a MBA. My career goal after the graduation is to work in the oil & gas industry. One of the leading consultancies could be an option too. I have 12 years of work experience in communications, external affairs, business development, and government relations - including working for an international oil company. And I'd like to find a job in the UK after the graduation.

I have done my research and now am looking at Bath, Durham, Newcastle, Robert Gordon University, and the University of Glasgow. I spoke recently to an international MBA student at Bath, who said that the school's career development service and students' placement are extremely poor. If one looks at the schools' websites, they all say how great they are with their career development support and job placements.

Can you please share your expert view on which one from Bath, Durham, Newcastle, Robert Gordon University, and the University of Glasgow business schools would be best to choose and why.

Thanks.

Carina
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Duncan

Hi Carina,

You can search the board to read my and others' comments on these schools. I think you can ask yourself, against what standard is the student at Bath judging? Unlike the other schools, it gets into the top 20 list. Indeed, every European school's placement is poor compared to - for example - a top Indian school where most students are placed in the first half of the course. However, the data show that the Bath MBA gets good outcomes. It is not likely that its services are worse than most of the other schools you mention.

I am not sure which firms you consider to be "the leading consultancies" but the firms I consider to be the leaders will not hire from the MBAs you mention. They will go to much better schools.

That said, if you want to work in oil and gas then RGU is an easy choice. Try: How to use LinkedIn to find the best school www.find-mba.com/board/33571

Good luck!

Duncan.

[Edited by Duncan on May 25, 2015]

Hi Carina,

You can search the board to read my and others' comments on these schools. I think you can ask yourself, against what standard is the student at Bath judging? Unlike the other schools, it gets into the top 20 list. Indeed, every European school's placement is poor compared to - for example - a top Indian school where most students are placed in the first half of the course. However, the data show that the Bath MBA gets good outcomes. It is not likely that its services are worse than most of the other schools you mention.

I am not sure which firms you consider to be "the leading consultancies" but the firms I consider to be the leaders will not hire from the MBAs you mention. They will go to much better schools.

That said, if you want to work in oil and gas then RGU is an easy choice. Try: How to use LinkedIn to find the best school www.find-mba.com/board/33571

Good luck!

Duncan.
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maury

RGU aside, it looks like Cranfield might also be a good choice for the energy sector:

http://find-mba.com/lists/top-business-school-by-speciality/top-business-schools-for-energy-and-natural-resources

"Typically, about 10 to 15 percent of Cranfield MBA grads go into the energy or utilities industries. In the past, graduates have gone into companies like BP, Shell, and a range of renewable energy firms."

RGU aside, it looks like Cranfield might also be a good choice for the energy sector:

http://find-mba.com/lists/top-business-school-by-speciality/top-business-schools-for-energy-and-natural-resources

"Typically, about 10 to 15 percent of Cranfield MBA grads go into the energy or utilities industries. In the past, graduates have gone into companies like BP, Shell, and a range of renewable energy firms."
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carinas

Hi Duncan,

Thank you.

I tried the Linkedin link and although I have not been able to use the advanced search I did a generic search for people whose records show MBA, the schools of my interest, and industry-wise either oil&gas and management consulting. I am not sure if this search produced results in a smart way or simply gave a generic match (e.g. includes people who have MBA not from those schools but hold BSc/BA/MA/MSc degrees from the schools of interest). My search showed the following results in terms of MBA population:
Durham: (424) 
Management Consulting and (213) 
Oil & Energy
Bath: (345) 
Management Consulting and (108) 
Oil & Energy
RGU: (71)
 Management Consulting and (848)
 
Oil & Energy
Newcastle: (379)
 Management Consulting and (243) 
Oil & Energy

While I enjoy working in the oil & gas industry and it would be great to get a job in it after the MBA, the industry has a cyclical nature. Hence, my thinking is to get MBA from a highly ranked business school in the UK to improve my employability/marketability across a wider range of sectors.

Durham, which is a Russell Group and triple accredited, and Bath, double accredited, have very good rankings. Newcastle is a Russell Group and triple accredited but lower ranked than Durham and Bath. It seems to have been in somewhat declining ranking trend in recent years, according to CUG.

RGU's MBA is not ranked in the FT's Global MBA 2015. CUG ranks RGU much lower than the other three in business and management studies. RGU as a whole, not its business school or MBA programme, has a UK top rank in employability of its graduates.

Given all the above and considering that I will get some financial support to equalise the course fees at the above universities for me, which ones and in what order you would recommend?

Very much count on your advice.

Thanks!

Carina

Hi Duncan,

Thank you.

I tried the Linkedin link and although I have not been able to use the advanced search I did a generic search for people whose records show MBA, the schools of my interest, and industry-wise either oil&gas and management consulting. I am not sure if this search produced results in a smart way or simply gave a generic match (e.g. includes people who have MBA not from those schools but hold BSc/BA/MA/MSc degrees from the schools of interest). My search showed the following results in terms of MBA population:
Durham: (424) 
Management Consulting and (213) 
Oil & Energy
Bath: (345) 
Management Consulting and (108) 
Oil & Energy
RGU: (71)
 Management Consulting and (848)
 
Oil & Energy
Newcastle: (379)
 Management Consulting and (243) 
Oil & Energy

While I enjoy working in the oil & gas industry and it would be great to get a job in it after the MBA, the industry has a cyclical nature. Hence, my thinking is to get MBA from a highly ranked business school in the UK to improve my employability/marketability across a wider range of sectors.

Durham, which is a Russell Group and triple accredited, and Bath, double accredited, have very good rankings. Newcastle is a Russell Group and triple accredited but lower ranked than Durham and Bath. It seems to have been in somewhat declining ranking trend in recent years, according to CUG.

RGU's MBA is not ranked in the FT's Global MBA 2015. CUG ranks RGU much lower than the other three in business and management studies. RGU as a whole, not its business school or MBA programme, has a UK top rank in employability of its graduates.

Given all the above and considering that I will get some financial support to equalise the course fees at the above universities for me, which ones and in what order you would recommend?

Very much count on your advice.

Thanks!

Carina
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