Best MBAs for international students' placement


Javean

@Duncan,

Thanks for putting together this list. Its really informative for international applicants like myself. I've recently received admits from Simon Business School and Alliance MBS for their respective FT MBA programs. Would like to have your opinion on which program better suits my background and goals.

Nationality : Indian
Experience : 5+ Years in the field of Data Analytics. Currently leading a team to drive projects from the India location
GMAT : 710
Goals : Change of location, a career in Operations/Strategy Consulting

Between the locations of US and UK I am leaning equally towards the two. The highlights for AMBS for me are a shorter course duration, which allows me to get a better ROI and the program's consultancy based projects. The highlights for Simon are its quant heavy curriculum and the STEM designation, which allows me to leverage my background in Data Analytics in the post MBA job hunt.

Thanks!

[Edited by Javean on Apr 13, 2020]

@Duncan,

Thanks for putting together this list. Its really informative for international applicants like myself. I've recently received admits from Simon Business School and Alliance MBS for their respective FT MBA programs. Would like to have your opinion on which program better suits my background and goals.

Nationality : Indian
Experience : 5+ Years in the field of Data Analytics. Currently leading a team to drive projects from the India location
GMAT : 710
Goals : Change of location, a career in Operations/Strategy Consulting

Between the locations of US and UK I am leaning equally towards the two. The highlights for AMBS for me are a shorter course duration, which allows me to get a better ROI and the program's consultancy based projects. The highlights for Simon are its quant heavy curriculum and the STEM designation, which allows me to leverage my background in Data Analytics in the post MBA job hunt.

Thanks!
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Duncan

Why are you not applying for much better schools? You could be at LBS, for example.

Why are you not applying for much better schools? You could be at LBS, for example.
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Javean

I recently gave my GMAT and was only able to put together hasty applications. I targeted Insead for its scope in Consulting (dinged), USC Marshall for its STEM designation (dinged), HEC(dinged), Simon(accepted) and MBS(accepted). Didn’t go for the likes of Oxford and LBS as I considered them out of reach but correct me if you think otherwise. I am 28 and want to get done with my MBA before my 30s. Would it make sense waiting out another year and putting together stronger applications?

[Edited by Javean on Apr 12, 2020]

I recently gave my GMAT and was only able to put together hasty applications. I targeted Insead for its scope in Consulting (dinged), USC Marshall for its STEM designation (dinged), HEC(dinged), Simon(accepted) and MBS(accepted). Didn’t go for the likes of Oxford and LBS as I considered them out of reach but correct me if you think otherwise. I am 28 and want to get done with my MBA before my 30s. Would it make sense waiting out another year and putting together stronger applications?
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Duncan

Yes, your schools are rather disparate and that doesn't suggest a very clear strategy or specific goals.

Yes, your schools are rather disparate and that doesn't suggest a very clear strategy or specific goals.
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joe89

Hi Duncan,

Thanks alot for the list , it is very informative. I have gone through many our posts and it is really helpful. I would really appreciate your support

I am software team leader working in the automotive industry since 7 years , currently I am looking to make a career shift to consultancy or business development in europe or Dubai.
I have an international experience, I worked in 3 different countries , two in Europe and one in middle east.
I scored 630 in GMAT

I have been in contact with IMD and IESE , they have made a profile assessment and they indicated that there is an initial fit between my profile and the universities. I believe that they are great universities but I am concerned regarding two points:
1) the size of their networks in the middle east?
2) the price and fees specially that I am planning to take a loan (I believe as well that economy now is not in its best position because of covid 19)
for example I found in case of IMD , I will need to pay around 1200 usd monthly for 10 years for prodigy finance
to be honest I would prefer IMD because of the shorter duration.

because of the fees issues, I started to consider another universities.
I got in contact with RSM , Imperial , Cass , Manchster, warwick.
After comparison :I felt that I would be more interested in RSM or Manchster because of their internship options.


I have another option as well , I am currently living in Munich and Iese is providing new EMBA in Munich , I can apply to it and continue working that will decrease the burden of the fees.However I am not sure if the emba at IESE will help me to do the career shift

[Edited by joe89 on Apr 12, 2020]

Hi Duncan,

Thanks alot for the list , it is very informative. I have gone through many our posts and it is really helpful. I would really appreciate your support

I am software team leader working in the automotive industry since 7 years , currently I am looking to make a career shift to consultancy or business development in europe or Dubai.
I have an international experience, I worked in 3 different countries , two in Europe and one in middle east.
I scored 630 in GMAT

I have been in contact with IMD and IESE , they have made a profile assessment and they indicated that there is an initial fit between my profile and the universities. I believe that they are great universities but I am concerned regarding two points:
1) the size of their networks in the middle east?
2) the price and fees specially that I am planning to take a loan (I believe as well that economy now is not in its best position because of covid 19)
for example I found in case of IMD , I will need to pay around 1200 usd monthly for 10 years for prodigy finance
to be honest I would prefer IMD because of the shorter duration.

because of the fees issues, I started to consider another universities.
I got in contact with RSM , Imperial , Cass , Manchster, warwick.
After comparison :I felt that I would be more interested in RSM or Manchster because of their internship options.


I have another option as well , I am currently living in Munich and Iese is providing new EMBA in Munich , I can apply to it and continue working that will decrease the burden of the fees.However I am not sure if the emba at IESE will help me to do the career shift
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Duncan

I suggest people reply to you at https://find-mba.com/board/europe/program-advice-imd-vs-iese-vs-rsm-vs-manchster-60501 where you have asked the same question

I suggest people reply to you at https://find-mba.com/board/europe/program-advice-imd-vs-iese-vs-rsm-vs-manchster-60501 where you have asked the same question
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Earth_Xu

Hi Duncan,
Thank's for putting all these information together !

I could see two schools from singapore.

Just out of curiosity. I wanted to work in Singapore in order to secure placement which school might be suitable ? NTU vs NUS . I saw two (NUS) of people from my country (Indonesia) cannot secure a place over there and must return to work and yet I see 1 of my co worker with only 3 years of exp then graduate from NTU and secure a place in startup or tech company.

but there are many us graduate school come here to secure place to work in Singapore as well.

any advise from your side ?

to be honest I'm thinking of insead since I'm native of 3 languages but they don't give any reduction or scholarship from what I heard

Thanks!

Hi Duncan,
Thank's for putting all these information together !

I could see two schools from singapore.

Just out of curiosity. I wanted to work in Singapore in order to secure placement which school might be suitable ? NTU vs NUS . I saw two (NUS) of people from my country (Indonesia) cannot secure a place over there and must return to work and yet I see 1 of my co worker with only 3 years of exp then graduate from NTU and secure a place in startup or tech company.

but there are many us graduate school come here to secure place to work in Singapore as well.

any advise from your side ?

to be honest I'm thinking of insead since I'm native of 3 languages but they don't give any reduction or scholarship from what I heard

Thanks!
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Duncan

This really depends on who you are and what role you want. There's no one answer. Yesterday I spoke with a client about options in Singapore, and the best fit for him was ESSEC. NTU has the higher percentage for placement, so I am not surprised it does better than NUS for some people: http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/global-mba-ranking-2020

This really depends on who you are and what role you want. There's no one answer. Yesterday I spoke with a client about options in Singapore, and the best fit for him was ESSEC. NTU has the higher percentage for placement, so I am not surprised it does better than NUS for some people: http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/global-mba-ranking-2020
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Earth_Xu

This really depends on who you are and what role you want. There's no one answer. Yesterday I spoke with a client about options in Singapore, and the best fit for him was ESSEC. NTU has the higher percentage for placement, so I am not surprised it does better than NUS for some people: http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/global-mba-ranking-2020


Thank's for insight !

I'm 31 chinese indonesian male working as Business Development as Senior Manager in Singapore Based Fintech in Jakarta , often travels to SG and daily communication with colleague in SG and China,

That being said my total experience is (4 years at Banking + 4 years with this is my 4th fintech). with details below :

Banking
1 years in retail at local bank
3 years in sme and corporate at foreign bank

Fintech
1.5 years local fintech
5 months at SG based fintech (close down)
6 months at SG based fintech (close down)
1.5 years and counting at my current SG based fintech.

Very suprise to heard ESSEC is that good! may I know why ? in your opinion

NTU seems great at placement at technology sector as I'm aiming for that too

Please advise :D

Thank you so much

[Edited by Earth_Xu on Apr 17, 2020]

[quote]This really depends on who you are and what role you want. There's no one answer. Yesterday I spoke with a client about options in Singapore, and the best fit for him was ESSEC. NTU has the higher percentage for placement, so I am not surprised it does better than NUS for some people: http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/global-mba-ranking-2020 [/quote]

Thank's for insight !

I'm 31 chinese indonesian male working as Business Development as Senior Manager in Singapore Based Fintech in Jakarta , often travels to SG and daily communication with colleague in SG and China,

That being said my total experience is (4 years at Banking + 4 years with this is my 4th fintech). with details below :

Banking
1 years in retail at local bank
3 years in sme and corporate at foreign bank

Fintech
1.5 years local fintech
5 months at SG based fintech (close down)
6 months at SG based fintech (close down)
1.5 years and counting at my current SG based fintech.

Very suprise to heard ESSEC is that good! may I know why ? in your opinion

NTU seems great at placement at technology sector as I'm aiming for that too

Please advise :D

Thank you so much
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Duncan

I think you can see from the career report that it's got a very different functional profile and group of recruiters. Tech is a sector, not a function. I think it good to think about the role you play and the value you can provide.

I think you can see from the career report that it's got a very different functional profile and group of recruiters. Tech is a sector, not a function. I think it good to think about the role you play and the value you can provide.
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Earth_Xu

I think you can see from the career report that it's got a very different functional profile and group of recruiters. Tech is a sector, not a function. I think it good to think about the role you play and the value you can provide.


I see.

well in term of function, I'm still thinking of Sales/Marketing or Product Management but I'm also interested to switch into finance

How do you think of CEIBS ? I don't speak fluent chinese mandarin. I mean my chinese is only good for daily communication. will it be obstacle ?

revert back to sg business school

I heard NTU good at Banking and Finance but most of placement is in the technology but not heard of NUS and SMU

Thanks!

[quote]I think you can see from the career report that it's got a very different functional profile and group of recruiters. Tech is a sector, not a function. I think it good to think about the role you play and the value you can provide. [/quote]

I see.

well in term of function, I'm still thinking of Sales/Marketing or Product Management but I'm also interested to switch into finance

How do you think of CEIBS ? I don't speak fluent chinese mandarin. I mean my chinese is only good for daily communication. will it be obstacle ?

revert back to sg business school

I heard NTU good at Banking and Finance but most of placement is in the technology but not heard of NUS and SMU

Thanks!
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Duncan

Ceibs is an excellent school. Indeed, a higher level of Mandarin is useful there but your experience is valuable.

PS I think the challenge for you is clarifying goals. When that is done when the choice of school is easy.

[Edited by Duncan on Apr 18, 2020]

Ceibs is an excellent school. Indeed, a higher level of Mandarin is useful there but your experience is valuable.

PS I think the challenge for you is clarifying goals. When that is done when the choice of school is easy.
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Earth_Xu

Ceibs is an excellent school. Indeed, a higher level of Mandarin is useful there but your experience is valuable.

PS I think the challenge for you is clarifying goals. When that is done when the choice of school is easy.


Thank you Duncan!

I think my goals is to get a job in singapore upon graduation then applying for SPR (singapore permanent resident). so any school will do at least leads me to a job prospect.

[quote]Ceibs is an excellent school. Indeed, a higher level of Mandarin is useful there but your experience is valuable.

PS I think the challenge for you is clarifying goals. When that is done when the choice of school is easy. [/quote]

Thank you Duncan!

I think my goals is to get a job in singapore upon graduation then applying for SPR (singapore permanent resident). so any school will do at least leads me to a job prospect.
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Duncan

If you want to live in Singapore, focus on the schools there.

[Edited by Duncan on Apr 20, 2020]

If you want to live in Singapore, focus on the schools there.
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Earth_Xu

If you want to live in Singapore, focus on the schools there.


I guess choice is NTU rather than NUS right ?

[quote]If you want to live in Singapore, focus on the schools there. [/quote]

I guess choice is NTU rather than NUS right ?
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Duncan

I think this would depend on the role you wanted. As you say, NTU has good roots in tech. I'd use LinkedIn to see which had a better MBA network in my target firms.

I think this would depend on the role you wanted. As you say, NTU has good roots in tech. I'd use LinkedIn to see which had a better MBA network in my target firms.
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Razors Edg...

NUS is ranked higher in the FT - with better salary stats - so it might make it a tough choice. Plus, NUS has been pushing into tech over the past decade, with a research center on AI, a strong research focus on analytics, and some tech-heavy MSc programs as well.

But yeah, take a look at LinkedIn - you might be surprised!

NUS is ranked higher in the FT - with better salary stats - so it might make it a tough choice. Plus, NUS has been pushing into tech over the past decade, with a research center on AI, a strong research focus on analytics, and some tech-heavy MSc programs as well.

But yeah, take a look at LinkedIn - you might be surprised!
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Nurul93

Everything I have looked at suggests that NUS is better than NTU but I guess it depends on each person individually! I am applying for NUS for next intake. Good luck!

Everything I have looked at suggests that NUS is better than NTU but I guess it depends on each person individually! I am applying for NUS for next intake. Good luck!
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Duncan

NTU seems to be superior only in terms of the percentage of people employed.

NTU seems to be superior only in terms of the percentage of people employed.
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Artjom

Hello,
Thanks for the amazing job you've done in this post.Would like to have your opinion about where should I apply based on my experience/goals:
29 years, EU-based.Spent 7 years working in a family business (international distributor company).At this point in my life, I do not see my (and in general) future in this family business. 
So I thought about doing MBA. My main goal (besides knowledge, obviously) is to find people, who areinterested in establishing own business & not doing a career in a corporate world.Based on that, I think INSEAD & LBS (which are famous places for consulting/banking world people as I understood) are not the right move for me, despite high rankings. What can you suggest? I'm OK to spend money, but do not want to spend more than 1 year.

Hello,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for the amazing job you've done in this post.</div><div>Would like to have your opinion about where should I apply based on my experience/goals:</div><div><br></div><div>29 years, EU-based.</div><div>Spent 7 years working in a family business (international distributor company).</div><div>At this point in my life, I do not see my (and in general) future in this family business.&nbsp;<br></div><div>So I thought about doing MBA.&nbsp;</div><div>My main goal (besides knowledge, obviously) is to find people, who are</div><div>interested in establishing own business &amp;&nbsp;not doing a career in a corporate world.</div><div>Based on that, I think INSEAD &amp; LBS (which are famous places for consulting/banking world people as I understood) are not the right move for me, despite high rankings.&nbsp;</div><div>What can you suggest? I'm OK to spend money, but do not want to spend more than 1 year.</div>
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