FT publishes European Business school rankings for 2011


Duncan
The new ranking is online at: http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/european-business-school-rankings-2011

Generally, it's bad news for British and French schools, and good news in Germany. There are big falls for Aston, Bath and Warsaw' Big rises for WU in Vienna, Católica and Henley.

Rising 5 or more places ( a * means more than 10 places change, ** more than 20):
IESE
Bocconi *
WHU
TiasNimbas
Mannheim
WU **
Católica Lisbon School of Business and Economics **
Henley Business School **
Nyenrode Business Universiteit *
Manchester Business School *
Nova School of Business and Economics *
Politecnico di Milano School of Management
HHL-Leipzig GSM *
University of Edinburgh Business School *
HEC Lausanne
Aarhus School of Business

Falling 5 or more places:
ESCP
EM Lyon *
EDHEC
Bradford University School of Management
Copenhagen Business School *
NHH
ESC Toulouse
Aston Business School **
Reims Management School *
Kozminski University Warsaw **
Antwerp Management School
University of Bath School of Management **
University of Cologne, Faculty of Management
ICN Business School
Birmingham Business School *

Added to this this year's ranking:-
Leeds University Business School

Dropped:
Nottingham University Business School, which has fallen from 62th to below 75th
The new ranking is online at: http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/european-business-school-rankings-2011

Generally, it's bad news for British and French schools, and good news in Germany. There are big falls for Aston, Bath and Warsaw' Big rises for WU in Vienna, Católica and Henley.

Rising 5 or more places ( a * means more than 10 places change, ** more than 20):
IESE
Bocconi *
WHU
TiasNimbas
Mannheim
WU **
Católica Lisbon School of Business and Economics **
Henley Business School **
Nyenrode Business Universiteit *
Manchester Business School *
Nova School of Business and Economics *
Politecnico di Milano School of Management
HHL-Leipzig GSM *
University of Edinburgh Business School *
HEC Lausanne
Aarhus School of Business

Falling 5 or more places:
ESCP
EM Lyon *
EDHEC
Bradford University School of Management
Copenhagen Business School *
NHH
ESC Toulouse
Aston Business School **
Reims Management School *
Kozminski University Warsaw **
Antwerp Management School
University of Bath School of Management **
University of Cologne, Faculty of Management
ICN Business School
Birmingham Business School *

Added to this this year's ranking:-
Leeds University Business School

Dropped:
Nottingham University Business School, which has fallen from 62th to below 75th
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BobJ
Makes for interesting reading as usual! German region schools are leading the charge up the rankings with St. Gallen first (no surprise there really).

Mannheim must be a little annoyed that WHU are second though - they always market that they are No.1 in Germany! I think WU are the biggest surprise package for the region though. Will be interesting to see if their position is sustainable.

ESMT and HLL are rising as well and not so far behind Mannheim.
Makes for interesting reading as usual! German region schools are leading the charge up the rankings with St. Gallen first (no surprise there really).

Mannheim must be a little annoyed that WHU are second though - they always market that they are No.1 in Germany! I think WU are the biggest surprise package for the region though. Will be interesting to see if their position is sustainable.

ESMT and HLL are rising as well and not so far behind Mannheim.

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maubia
Despite several complaints (here and in other forums) Erasmus is keeping the 7th position. Even Tiasnimbas looks good with a +8 position gain.
Now all the 6 schools of Euromba are ranked
Despite several complaints (here and in other forums) Erasmus is keeping the 7th position. Even Tiasnimbas looks good with a +8 position gain.
Now all the 6 schools of Euromba are ranked
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Duncan
Erasmus is a giant in the MSc business. Its low fees attract high potential students from all over the world, but it's not RSM's fault that they have not researched the job market before arriving ;-/
Erasmus is a giant in the MSc business. Its low fees attract high potential students from all over the world, but it's not RSM's fault that they have not researched the job market before arriving ;-/
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Genee
Hi Duncan,

how would you cause the big rise of WU Wien? i am actually interested in applying for the professional mba programm of WU Wien.
Do you have any information about the programm and its reputation? i was wondering why a GMAT and Toefl are not entry requirements for the programm...
Thank you for your valuation.

greetz Daniel
Hi Duncan,

how would you cause the big rise of WU Wien? i am actually interested in applying for the professional mba programm of WU Wien.
Do you have any information about the programm and its reputation? i was wondering why a GMAT and Toefl are not entry requirements for the programm...
Thank you for your valuation.

greetz Daniel
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Duncan
Genee, I suggest you read exchange and then send a PM to kyuri http://www.find-mba.com/board/22819

I think the Big rise of WU is primarily due to the Bologna process: as it shifts to more English-speaking courses it attracts higher quality students. I guess it's very common for GMAt to be waives for Exec MBAs.
Genee, I suggest you read exchange and then send a PM to kyuri http://www.find-mba.com/board/22819

I think the Big rise of WU is primarily due to the Bologna process: as it shifts to more English-speaking courses it attracts higher quality students. I guess it's very common for GMAt to be waives for Exec MBAs.
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iisirene
Hi Duncan and All ,

Thanks for sharing the information , the information on this board really helps a lot .

I'm currently searching for MBA program in Austria
,I am interested in WU PMBA program and have asked for some information via mails from their program consultant , it's a part time MBA ( The lectures are held in modules ), 90% of the students have full time job . the ranking and reputation of the university seem good . however, if I am admitted , i will be a full time student there . is there any Aluminis here could advice how intensive the program is ? do you think it's ok for a full time student to apply ? i like the school a lot , but don't want to end up with too much spare time..
Any comments and sugegstions will be highly appreciated !

Irene
Hi Duncan and All ,

Thanks for sharing the information , the information on this board really helps a lot .

I'm currently searching for MBA program in Austria
,I am interested in WU PMBA program and have asked for some information via mails from their program consultant , it's a part time MBA ( The lectures are held in modules ), 90% of the students have full time job . the ranking and reputation of the university seem good . however, if I am admitted , i will be a full time student there . is there any Aluminis here could advice how intensive the program is ? do you think it's ok for a full time student to apply ? i like the school a lot , but don't want to end up with too much spare time..
Any comments and sugegstions will be highly appreciated !

Irene
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Duncan
Hi Irene,

Contact this user - http://www.find-mba.com/about/kyuri - see see his positive comments about the PMBA at http://www.find-mba.com/board/22819/1#post-22826

A part-time programme will, of course, leave you with enough spare time for a full-time job. There are no good full-time MBAs in Austria, but why not take a full-time MSc there? http://www.wu.ac.at/prospective/en/programs/
Hi Irene,

Contact this user - http://www.find-mba.com/about/kyuri - see see his positive comments about the PMBA at http://www.find-mba.com/board/22819/1#post-22826

A part-time programme will, of course, leave you with enough spare time for a full-time job. There are no good full-time MBAs in Austria, but why not take a full-time MSc there? http://www.wu.ac.at/prospective/en/programs/
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kyuri
Hi Irene,

II submitted my application for PMBA F&C last week. Looks like I'll have an interview with the program deputy director within month.
My suggestion for you is to contact the Program manager of PMBA specialization you are most interested. For F&C it's Anna Nusko, she's very responsive. Her contacts are available at http://www.executiveacademy.at/pmba_fc.
I spoke to alumnus of WU Global MBA program and LLM program. Both very positive, but these are a bit different programs. I've been promised to be contacted by PMBA F&C alumni in Russia, but that not happened as yet.
Hi Irene,

II submitted my application for PMBA F&C last week. Looks like I'll have an interview with the program deputy director within month.
My suggestion for you is to contact the Program manager of PMBA specialization you are most interested. For F&C it's Anna Nusko, she's very responsive. Her contacts are available at http://www.executiveacademy.at/pmba_fc.
I spoke to alumnus of WU Global MBA program and LLM program. Both very positive, but these are a bit different programs. I've been promised to be contacted by PMBA F&C alumni in Russia, but that not happened as yet.
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iisirene
Hi Duncan,

Appreciate a lot for your comments!
I do consider about WU's Msc program ,but i think applying MSc depends more on the school grades & GMAT , instead of experience , my university grade is not so good and I haven't done GMAT yet ( will do in Feb, )
I have about 5.5 years working experience in project management in IT industry , and think maybe MBA suit me more .

Hi Yuri,
I'm thinking about applying their process & project management . I have contacted with the program consultant , and would like to hear more information regarding the program from alumni . May I know if you will doing the PMBA and work at the same time ?
Good luck to you for your interview

Thank you for your feedback ; )
Irene
Hi Duncan,

Appreciate a lot for your comments!
I do consider about WU's Msc program ,but i think applying MSc depends more on the school grades & GMAT , instead of experience , my university grade is not so good and I haven't done GMAT yet ( will do in Feb, )
I have about 5.5 years working experience in project management in IT industry , and think maybe MBA suit me more .

Hi Yuri,
I'm thinking about applying their process & project management . I have contacted with the program consultant , and would like to hear more information regarding the program from alumni . May I know if you will doing the PMBA and work at the same time ?
Good luck to you for your interview

Thank you for your feedback ; )
Irene
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kyuri
Hi Irene,

I'll be working. PMBA requires only a few days per month out of office.

Yuri
Hi Irene,

I'll be working. PMBA requires only a few days per month out of office.

Yuri

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iisirene
Hi Yuri ,

Hope you have get the offer from the one you want !
After doing some survey and evaluation , I have to give up WU PMBA and choose full time program instead .

Hello Duncan ,

I may need some advices from you , i have applied full time MBA programs including Durham , HHL and Tiasnimbas . I would like to have some more insites in terms of worldwide reputation and teaching quality in order to make final decision . below are some of my findings ,
The tuition fee after scholarship deduction should be similar
From location perspect , I prefer HHL > Tiasnimbas > Durham
but Durham seems to have more well known reputation while HHL & Tiasnimbas are more reginal ?
I expect to have the program combined with real word experience and have diverse group of students and i think all these schools offer good curriculum structure .

Thank you in advance for your valuable information !
Hi Yuri ,

Hope you have get the offer from the one you want !
After doing some survey and evaluation , I have to give up WU PMBA and choose full time program instead .

Hello Duncan ,

I may need some advices from you , i have applied full time MBA programs including Durham , HHL and Tiasnimbas . I would like to have some more insites in terms of worldwide reputation and teaching quality in order to make final decision . below are some of my findings ,
The tuition fee after scholarship deduction should be similar
From location perspect , I prefer HHL > Tiasnimbas > Durham
but Durham seems to have more well known reputation while HHL & Tiasnimbas are more reginal ?
I expect to have the program combined with real word experience and have diverse group of students and i think all these schools offer good curriculum structure .

Thank you in advance for your valuable information !



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Duncan
Only Durham gets into the FT 100, but is very academic and not so experiential as most other top MBAs. I think you'll get a better education at HHL, but the focus is on careers in the German market (which is buoyant).

Did you get a GMAT score yet? Why are you looking at those programmes?
Only Durham gets into the FT 100, but is very academic and not so experiential as most other top MBAs. I think you'll get a better education at HHL, but the focus is on careers in the German market (which is buoyant).

Did you get a GMAT score yet? Why are you looking at those programmes?
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iisirene
Hi Duncan ,

First of all , thank you for your reply !
My GMAT is not very good (600) , so I applied some UK universties which do not require GMAT results , including Deurham , Leeds , Southampton and Kent , and among these universities ,Durham has highest ranking , so I have narrowed down the list into Durham .
for European school , I like Germany and its language a lot. I did think about Mannheim , WHU but they are more expensive & require higher GMAT results. so I think it'd be more possible to get into HHL , lower cost and in a lovely city as well.
as for Tiasnimbas , they offer good scholarship (although it would be almost equal to HHL fee without any deduction ) and had some interviews and talk with school consultant , I am impressed by their effeciency and i feel the school takes good care of all students and very supportive plus they seem to be aaggresive to promote themself and improve their worldwide ranking .
Besides, I would like to finalyse the school by end of March , therefore , it'd be probably the choice among Durham , HHL and Tiasnimba i get .
What's your opinion ?

Many thanks
Hi Duncan ,

First of all , thank you for your reply !
My GMAT is not very good (600) , so I applied some UK universties which do not require GMAT results , including Deurham , Leeds , Southampton and Kent , and among these universities ,Durham has highest ranking , so I have narrowed down the list into Durham .
for European school , I like Germany and its language a lot. I did think about Mannheim , WHU but they are more expensive & require higher GMAT results. so I think it'd be more possible to get into HHL , lower cost and in a lovely city as well.
as for Tiasnimbas , they offer good scholarship (although it would be almost equal to HHL fee without any deduction ) and had some interviews and talk with school consultant , I am impressed by their effeciency and i feel the school takes good care of all students and very supportive plus they seem to be aaggresive to promote themself and improve their worldwide ranking .
Besides, I would like to finalyse the school by end of March , therefore , it'd be probably the choice among Durham , HHL and Tiasnimba i get .
What's your opinion ?

Many thanks

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Duncan
What is your career goal?

First, don't take the Tias scholarship too seriously. I don't know anyone who was not offered it. They just inflate the price and offer scholarships to attract students. Very clever. I would look into placement there for international students very carefully. Tilburg bought and then closed the Nimbas MBA in Utrecht. I am not sure if the placement service improved.

HHL would be very interesting for me. I took a course there and was impressed. The cents of Leipzig is lovely but most of the town is a bit of a dump.

Durham is cute. There is a new business school extension planned which might release some pressure on space there. Is is a very academic MBA. You need to speak to graduates of these programmes.
What is your career goal?

First, don't take the Tias scholarship too seriously. I don't know anyone who was not offered it. They just inflate the price and offer scholarships to attract students. Very clever. I would look into placement there for international students very carefully. Tilburg bought and then closed the Nimbas MBA in Utrecht. I am not sure if the placement service improved.

HHL would be very interesting for me. I took a course there and was impressed. The cents of Leipzig is lovely but most of the town is a bit of a dump.

Durham is cute. There is a new business school extension planned which might release some pressure on space there. Is is a very academic MBA. You need to speak to graduates of these programmes.
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iisirene
Hi Duncan ,

Thanks a lot for your feedback ,
well , i have been working in IT industry for several years , I'm doing projects management work . the reason why i decide to pursue a MBA degree is not only to get into higher level position when I come back but also to broaden my internationa perspectives . Most of my job is related to manage overseas 3rd parties, so I think it could be a plus to me if i could study in Europe . the dileimma i have now is UK school is more well-know in my country , but i think European school may offer more diversity in terms of students and life experience ....
Hi Duncan ,

Thanks a lot for your feedback ,
well , i have been working in IT industry for several years , I'm doing projects management work . the reason why i decide to pursue a MBA degree is not only to get into higher level position when I come back but also to broaden my internationa perspectives . Most of my job is related to manage overseas 3rd parties, so I think it could be a plus to me if i could study in Europe . the dileimma i have now is UK school is more well-know in my country , but i think European school may offer more diversity in terms of students and life experience ....
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