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georgep
Thanks again Duncan.

My current MBA allows me 6 years to complete. I am going to properly plan and slot in Sloan for a year and then complete the MBA (if required). Sounds like a terrific plan!.

Hope to see you Rajesh at the Sloan programme. Do you like to get in touch with me off this forum?
May be we could join and get professional help from Duncun's professional MBA services company.
Thanks again Duncan.

My current MBA allows me 6 years to complete. I am going to properly plan and slot in Sloan for a year and then complete the MBA (if required). Sounds like a terrific plan!.

Hope to see you Rajesh at the Sloan programme. Do you like to get in touch with me off this forum?
May be we could join and get professional help from Duncun's professional MBA services company.



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maubia
Hi George.. can I ask you why you changed your mind? Till some months ago you were interested in program without residential weeks... did the online experience disappoint you?
Hi George.. can I ask you why you changed your mind? Till some months ago you were interested in program without residential weeks... did the online experience disappoint you?
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georgep
Actually the online MBA at DBS is pretty good. It covers good curriculum that any standard school offers at a competitive price.

I am nearly half way through the first term. Learned a lot of management theory, got good grades on the assignments but I could not practice any of the theory in my IT hands on day job.

What I understand is that people like me and Rajesh who have significant experience (16+ yrs) in IT and functional domain would need more than a MBA degree. Soft skills especially - I am not convinced on summer schools/residential weeks we could get that, even Exec MBA with once a month classes - but need either exec coach or intensive training.

Any better suggestions?
Actually the online MBA at DBS is pretty good. It covers good curriculum that any standard school offers at a competitive price.

I am nearly half way through the first term. Learned a lot of management theory, got good grades on the assignments but I could not practice any of the theory in my IT hands on day job.

What I understand is that people like me and Rajesh who have significant experience (16+ yrs) in IT and functional domain would need more than a MBA degree. Soft skills especially - I am not convinced on summer schools/residential weeks we could get that, even Exec MBA with once a month classes - but need either exec coach or intensive training.

Any better suggestions?

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maubia
I see.. I'm also from IT (8y experience) and I can understand your point.
By the way I talked with different past alumni of part-time/online mba (Euro*mba, Manchester, IE): 2 of them were SAP consultants, the other was within IT.... they told me that they could use the mba to get a better job / positions and that they had great benefits.

Actually being from IT means too many things .... :-)
I think that an MBA can help consultants, business analysts, module managers, ecc ...... but if you are a developer I don't know how much it can help (except if you have some start-up ideas)
I see.. I'm also from IT (8y experience) and I can understand your point.
By the way I talked with different past alumni of part-time/online mba (Euro*mba, Manchester, IE): 2 of them were SAP consultants, the other was within IT.... they told me that they could use the mba to get a better job / positions and that they had great benefits.

Actually being from IT means too many things .... :-)
I think that an MBA can help consultants, business analysts, module managers, ecc ...... but if you are a developer I don't know how much it can help (except if you have some start-up ideas)
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georgep
Unfortunately, I am at close to the bottom of the IT food chain - IT infrastructure hands-on (they called me as Infrastructure specialist lead) not a developer. I have had tech team lead experience few years but you might know managing techies is very different from general people management skill. (I think MIT even has a special course on "Managing Technical People and Technical Organisation").
Unfortunately, I am at close to the bottom of the IT food chain - IT infrastructure hands-on (they called me as Infrastructure specialist lead) not a developer. I have had tech team lead experience few years but you might know managing techies is very different from general people management skill. (I think MIT even has a special course on "Managing Technical People and Technical Organisation").
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maubia
Where are you from?
Where are you from?
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georgep
London.. interestingly, living just 20mins away from LBS
London.. interestingly, living just 20mins away from LBS
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maubia
Lucky you.. I live 20 min from Cuoa :-) (probably only Duncan can know this school)
Lucky you.. I live 20 min from Cuoa :-) (probably only Duncan can know this school)
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georgep
I am at close to the bottom of the IT food chain - IT infrastructure hands-on (they call me as Infrastructure specialist lead) not a developer.


Back to this topic. Eventhough I am making about £100+K p.a in my specialist IT consultancy services, techies are always at the bottom of the food chain in big organisations. I was under the impression that it didn't matter where you are as long as you make enough and retire early. It worked fine for the past decades. But these days I am bossed by mid 20's offshore guys who are just clueless, arrogant. (Duncan might have seen those immature IIM guys) and getting irritated. That's is one of the reasons I am looking to move ahead.

Otherwise my core tech market is not much affected now at least for the next few years. I would continue do it for the next 3 years, make while it is there -along the way complete my Durham MBA and jump into Sloan in LBS/MIT/Stanford when my market dries up.

Sounds good strategy?
<blockquote>I am at close to the bottom of the IT food chain - IT infrastructure hands-on (they call me as Infrastructure specialist lead) not a developer. </blockquote>

Back to this topic. Eventhough I am making about £100+K p.a in my specialist IT consultancy services, techies are always at the bottom of the food chain in big organisations. I was under the impression that it didn't matter where you are as long as you make enough and retire early. It worked fine for the past decades. But these days I am bossed by mid 20's offshore guys who are just clueless, arrogant. (Duncan might have seen those immature IIM guys) and getting irritated. That's is one of the reasons I am looking to move ahead.

Otherwise my core tech market is not much affected now at least for the next few years. I would continue do it for the next 3 years, make while it is there -along the way complete my Durham MBA and jump into Sloan in LBS/MIT/Stanford when my market dries up.

Sounds good strategy?
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Duncan
Also look at the post-MBA programmes at USC, Thunderbird, Schulich and McGill. And the INSEAD-McGill IMMP. Oh, and start to save. Perhaps UK tech is going to have hard times.
Also look at the post-MBA programmes at USC, Thunderbird, Schulich and McGill. And the INSEAD-McGill IMMP. Oh, and start to save. Perhaps UK tech is going to have hard times.
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georgep
You are as usual right Duncan. Tech future in UK is bleak. I don't see a lot of years ahead. That is my other reason to go for general management education.

Thanks for the post-MBA programmes. I could not find much info about INSEAD-McGill IMMP. Could you please stick in a url here.

Are you any chance at the MBA QS event tomorrow at QEII centre, London?
You are as usual right Duncan. Tech future in UK is bleak. I don't see a lot of years ahead. That is my other reason to go for general management education.

Thanks for the post-MBA programmes. I could not find much info about INSEAD-McGill IMMP. Could you please stick in a url here.

Are you any chance at the MBA QS event tomorrow at QEII centre, London?
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Duncan
It's IMPM, sorry: www.impm.org

Yes, I will pop in for the 2pm sessin on Getting into the top MBA programs in Asia.
It's IMPM, sorry: www.impm.org

Yes, I will pop in for the 2pm sessin on Getting into the top MBA programs in Asia.

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rajeshk
Hi,
I am back after a week or so in deep GMAT preparation. Good to know that this thread is still active. Thanks George and Duncun.

I just come across this article. I particulary liked the comparison of traditional MBA, IMPM and new MBL. I guess the authors did not know about the Sloan progamme or just chose to ignore it as traditional programme.

http://www.ashridge.org/Website/IC.nsf/wFARATT/The%20MBA%20is%20dead%20-%20part%202:%20long%20live%20the%20MBL/$file/TheMBAIsDead-Part2.pdf


Duncun,
How would you compare the Sloan programme in releation to IMPM and MBL?

Thanks.


Just for reference, here is the first part of the article series.

http://www.ashridgeleadershipcentre.com/website/IC.nsf/wFARATT/The%20MBA%20is%20dead%20-%20part%201:%20God%20save%20the%20MBA/$file/TheMBAIsDead-Part1.pdf
Hi,
I am back after a week or so in deep GMAT preparation. Good to know that this thread is still active. Thanks George and Duncun.

I just come across this article. I particulary liked the comparison of traditional MBA, IMPM and new MBL. I guess the authors did not know about the Sloan progamme or just chose to ignore it as traditional programme.

http://www.ashridge.org/Website/IC.nsf/wFARATT/The%20MBA%20is%20dead%20-%20part%202:%20long%20live%20the%20MBL/$file/TheMBAIsDead-Part2.pdf


Duncun,
How would you compare the Sloan programme in releation to IMPM and MBL?

Thanks.


Just for reference, here is the first part of the article series.

http://www.ashridgeleadershipcentre.com/website/IC.nsf/wFARATT/The%20MBA%20is%20dead%20-%20part%201:%20God%20save%20the%20MBA/$file/TheMBAIsDead-Part1.pdf
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Duncan
Well, the MBL can be ignored. It was proposed in 2005, and there still isn't one n offer. I don't think there's a respectable school which will be able to promote something as replacing the MBA unless it includes the core general management toolset.

The IMPM takes 45 days of teaching and the Sloan takes one year, full-time. That's the main difference. The Sloan programme thus combines the core courses and electives of an MBA with the integrated mindset of the IMPM.
Well, the MBL can be ignored. It was proposed in 2005, and there still isn't one n offer. I don't think there's a respectable school which will be able to promote something as replacing the MBA unless it includes the core general management toolset.

The IMPM takes 45 days of teaching and the Sloan takes one year, full-time. That's the main difference. The Sloan programme thus combines the core courses and electives of an MBA with the integrated mindset of the IMPM.
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rajeshk
Wow. That is a huge difference!. As you mentioned earlier Sloan beats hands down any MBA or post-MBA out there.

Your are the best Duncan!.
Wow. That is a huge difference!. As you mentioned earlier Sloan beats hands down any MBA or post-MBA out there.

Your are the best Duncan!.
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georgep
Here is another interesting program.

Advanced Masters Program in Management of Global Enterprises (AMPM)

http://www.globalwork.in/ampm/index.htm

Participating Schools
----------------------------
Indian Institute of Management Bangalore
City University of Hong Kong at Hong Kong/Shenzhen
SDA Bocconi School of Management
UCLA, Anderson School of Business
Here is another interesting program.

Advanced Masters Program in Management of Global Enterprises (AMPM)

http://www.globalwork.in/ampm/index.htm

Participating Schools
----------------------------
Indian Institute of Management Bangalore
City University of Hong Kong at Hong Kong/Shenzhen
SDA Bocconi School of Management
UCLA, Anderson School of Business
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maubia
Hi George.. where do you find the time for working, doing mba and searching new programs??? :-)
Hi George.. where do you find the time for working, doing mba and searching new programs??? :-)
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georgep
Ha..ha.. I am currently writing an assignment for Finance Module at DBS, while working from home to support a BPM solution roleout for a UK Bank. And checking this forum to refresh higher education world knowledge ..

Forgot to mention, when the kids are back from the school, I have to help the elder one Geometry problems for his grammar school math test later this week. And help the little one in his "junk model" school project ..

Anyone would like to tout your own "bigger" horn?
Ha..ha.. I am currently writing an assignment for Finance Module at DBS, while working from home to support a BPM solution roleout for a UK Bank. And checking this forum to refresh higher education world knowledge ..

Forgot to mention, when the kids are back from the school, I have to help the elder one Geometry problems for his grammar school math test later this week. And help the little one in his "junk model" school project ..

Anyone would like to tout your own "bigger" horn?
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Duncan
George that AMPM programme is $32K and it doesn't even lead to a university degree or membership in any of the the alumni networks. Crazy!
George that AMPM programme is $32K and it doesn't even lead to a university degree or membership in any of the the alumni networks. Crazy!
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georgep
Duncan,
Spot on!. After all it is a typical "vanity" programme that you mentioned earlier. I guess it is one of the tactics of the "middle troubled schools" trying to make money.
http://www.economist.com/node/21532269

I just spinned off a new thread on this subject.
http://www.find-mba.com/board/22870
Duncan,
Spot on!. After all it is a typical "vanity" programme that you mentioned earlier. I guess it is one of the tactics of the "middle troubled schools" trying to make money.
http://www.economist.com/node/21532269

I just spinned off a new thread on this subject.
http://www.find-mba.com/board/22870
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