MBA in England or Scotland


Harris89
I am an American currently working for my family's largish printing business in New York. I would like to go to either England or Scotland to do my MBA, and then perhaps work for a couple of years in the UK afterward before returning here to build up a marketing arm for the printing business.

Question for all the experts here: what are some good value MBAs in these countries? I am attracted to Liverpool, Robert Gordon, and Birmingham, but solely based on value. Are these good for finding jobs after graduation? Or do I need to make a bigger investment?
I am an American currently working for my family's largish printing business in New York. I would like to go to either England or Scotland to do my MBA, and then perhaps work for a couple of years in the UK afterward before returning here to build up a marketing arm for the printing business.

Question for all the experts here: what are some good value MBAs in these countries? I am attracted to Liverpool, Robert Gordon, and Birmingham, but solely based on value. Are these good for finding jobs after graduation? Or do I need to make a bigger investment?
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Duncan
Birmingham is not a terrible choice, but I'd rule out the two. The Liverpool MBA is new and lack AMBA accrediation. RGU is good for oil, but you're not in oil.

Read:-
Best schools for international students' placement http://www.find-mba.com/board/41143

Why international accreditation matters http://www.find-mba.com/board/41224
Birmingham is not a terrible choice, but I'd rule out the two. The Liverpool MBA is new and lack AMBA accrediation. RGU is good for oil, but you're not in oil.

Read:-
Best schools for international students' placement http://www.find-mba.com/board/41143

Why international accreditation matters http://www.find-mba.com/board/41224
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mba hipste...
Are these good for finding jobs after graduation? Or do I need to make a bigger investment?


My feeling is that an accredited program would be fine if you were just looking to go back and work in your family's business, but the fact that one of your goals is to stay and work in the UK means that a ranked program would probably be preferable. With a ranked program you'd have access to better career services and usually a wider network.

However, that said, it's not unheard of for people to land jobs in the UK with a lower-tier or unranked school. You would just have to hit the ground running and do a lot of legwork during the program. Although that's true from ranked schools as well, there's no real sure bet without motivation.

Something like Bath or Lancaster, for instance, is a bit more expensive but ranked in the FT.

Budget-wise, Brunel's a good value, and its London location is great for networking. Westminster too.
[quote]Are these good for finding jobs after graduation? Or do I need to make a bigger investment?[/quote]

My feeling is that an accredited program would be fine if you were just looking to go back and work in your family's business, but the fact that one of your goals is to stay and work in the UK means that a ranked program would probably be preferable. With a ranked program you'd have access to better career services and usually a wider network.

However, that said, it's not unheard of for people to land jobs in the UK with a lower-tier or unranked school. You would just have to hit the ground running and do a lot of legwork during the program. Although that's true from ranked schools as well, there's no real sure bet without motivation.

Something like Bath or Lancaster, for instance, is a bit more expensive but ranked in the FT.

Budget-wise, Brunel's a good value, and its London location is great for networking. Westminster too.
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ralph
Agreed with hipster. Just wanted to add that if you're specifically targeting Scotland, Strathclyde might be worth looking into: it's ranked in the FT and has decent placement stats.
Agreed with hipster. Just wanted to add that if you're specifically targeting Scotland, Strathclyde might be worth looking into: it's ranked in the FT and has decent placement stats.
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Harris89
Thanks so much!
Thanks so much!
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Agreed with hipster. Just wanted to add that if you're specifically targeting Scotland, Strathclyde might be worth looking into: it's ranked in the FT and has decent placement stats.

Hi Ralph, how would you compare Strathclyde to the University of Edinburgh Business School or the University of Glasgow?
[quote]Agreed with hipster. Just wanted to add that if you're specifically targeting Scotland, Strathclyde might be worth looking into: it's ranked in the FT and has decent placement stats.[/quote]
Hi Ralph, how would you compare Strathclyde to the University of Edinburgh Business School or the University of Glasgow?
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ralph
Strathcylde, especially compared to Glasgow, is probably going to be superior, given the school's ranking and reputation among recruiters in Glasgow and the rest of the country. I suppose that Edinburgh, while not as well-ranked as Strathcylde, is also a decent choice, especially if you'd be looking for jobs in that city.

Always though, you should connect with the schools and see if they can give you any information regarding placements and career statistics. The Strathclyde data is available on the FT ranking but I don't think the other schools publicly post career stats.
Strathcylde, especially compared to Glasgow, is probably going to be superior, given the school's ranking and reputation among recruiters in Glasgow and the rest of the country. I suppose that Edinburgh, while not as well-ranked as Strathcylde, is also a decent choice, especially if you'd be looking for jobs in that city.

Always though, you should connect with the schools and see if they can give you any information regarding placements and career statistics. The Strathclyde data is available on the FT ranking but I don't think the other schools publicly post career stats.
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xman11422
Anybody have an idea about the job scene in Scotland? I'm interested in doing an MBA from Strathcylde or University of Edinburgh.
Anybody have an idea about the job scene in Scotland? I'm interested in doing an MBA from Strathcylde or University of Edinburgh.
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Duncan
Yes. Do you have a specific question? To compare the career outcomes from schools try: How to use LinkedIn to find the best school www.find-mba.com/board/33571
Yes. Do you have a specific question? To compare the career outcomes from schools try: How to use LinkedIn to find the best school www.find-mba.com/board/33571
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maury
Anybody have an idea about the job scene in Scotland? I'm interested in doing an MBA from Strathcylde or University of Edinburgh.

The country's got an active oil industry, that employs a lot of people. Edinburgh is a finance center. It really depends on what you're looking for, but overall it looks like Scotland's doing quite well, in terms of employment:
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-31517909
[quote]Anybody have an idea about the job scene in Scotland? I'm interested in doing an MBA from Strathcylde or University of Edinburgh.[/quote]
The country's got an active oil industry, that employs a lot of people. Edinburgh is a finance center. It really depends on what you're looking for, but overall it looks like Scotland's doing quite well, in terms of employment:
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-31517909
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xman11422
That's good to hear! I would actually like to go into finance, so I would think that the University of Edinburgh is the best choice?
That's good to hear! I would actually like to go into finance, so I would think that the University of Edinburgh is the best choice?
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Mamit
Well if you go by the FT rankings LBS, Cass, Manchester Warwick are among the top 50 for finance. The program at Lancaster is good for finance & has triple accreditation as well.
Well if you go by the FT rankings LBS, Cass, Manchester Warwick are among the top 50 for finance. The program at Lancaster is good for finance & has triple accreditation as well.
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xman11422
Cool. Even if I specifically want to work in Scotland?
Cool. Even if I specifically want to work in Scotland?
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Duncan
Try this approach: How to use LinkedIn to find the best school www.find-mba.com/board/33571


You can use the location to filter by geography.
Try this approach: How to use LinkedIn to find the best school www.find-mba.com/board/33571


You can use the location to filter by geography.
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xman11422
Ok, Linkedin doesn't have a "Scotland" filter so I just added the major cities in Scotland, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Aberdeen, Dundee, etc. And then limited industries to financial services, investment banking and banking.

And this is what I got for the top five schools:

University of Edinburgh
Strathcylde
Heriot-Watt
Edinburgh Napier
Open University

... in case anybody's interested!!
Ok, Linkedin doesn't have a "Scotland" filter so I just added the major cities in Scotland, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Aberdeen, Dundee, etc. And then limited industries to financial services, investment banking and banking.

And this is what I got for the top five schools:

University of Edinburgh
Strathcylde
Heriot-Watt
Edinburgh Napier
Open University

... in case anybody's interested!!
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Duncan
The other option would be to use postal codes. Dundee, for example, is half way between Aberdeen and Glasgow, so you could pick 100 miles around DD1 4HN, the Dundee university postcode. That produces:

(1201) University of Strathclyde
(1020) The University of Edinburgh
(670) The University of Glasgow
(594) The Open University
(540) Edinburgh Napier University
The other option would be to use postal codes. Dundee, for example, is half way between Aberdeen and Glasgow, so you could pick 100 miles around DD1 4HN, the Dundee university postcode. That produces:

(1201) University of Strathclyde
(1020) The University of Edinburgh
(670) The University of Glasgow
(594) The Open University
(540) Edinburgh Napier University
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xman11422
In either case, it looks like Strathclyde and Edinburgh are the best choices. I'll target those.
In either case, it looks like Strathclyde and Edinburgh are the best choices. I'll target those.
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Duncan
And Edinburgh is where the finance jobs are.
And Edinburgh is where the finance jobs are.
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xman11422
Yes, true.
Yes, true.
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