Wow - 97% Indian students. The FT is totally right to consider this an Indian school; that shows the reality of the international diversity in the classroom.

Who is the 3%??? :-)
By the way, which is the reason for the lack of international exposure of the Indian schools? I can't believe that there are not international students willing to study there...

I think the Indian schools are primarily oriented to serving their domestic market. SP Jain has an overseas campus in order to train internationally-oriented Indian managers for Indian businesses. The international students are there almost accidentally. If SP Jain wanted to seriously internationalise, it would have two choice: aim at overseas-born Indians, or make a serious joint venture. The reality is that international businesses don't recruit for Indian schools for overseas positions because the culture and skill of Indian businesses (and business schools) is specific.

International applicants rule out the Indian school not because of the risk of an Indian degree (contrast, for example, the large number of international students at Chinese universities with lower rigour) but because the Indian MBAs are not diverse *even in an Indian setting*, with few women, few men from outside engineering and business schools, and with little work experience.

Rather than translate the pre-experience PGDM, Indian schools wanting to eat into the mainstream MBA market should develop post-experience MBAs jointly with international partners which involve multi-national cohorts and international experience. That's a hard task and, given the huge numbers of Indian students happy to take a 100% Indian course abroad, there's no real need to do that.

hmmm..
Nicely put :) . specially SP Jain Dubai Singapore which costs as much as if not more than NUS to pursue, still people are applying for the course.
And there is huge gulf to cater this market of Indian Students willing to pursue a 1 year MBA course.
After the Indian Institute of Management, the best bet is SP Jain GMBA (Rank 11 and 91 even if I take it as 68, my point still remains same, there is huge gap)

And yes the MBA colleges have been trying to cater to the masses (target audience) but then it has more to do with the whole education system.. Engineering was a default choice... social structure is such that seldom any one pursues a course of his or her own wish.
Its been for last 2 to 3 yrs that kids have started preferring to get into field of their choice and interest. Mass Media, Literature, engineering by choice (and not force) etc.
Earlier majority of the "best of the brains" of the country had Engineering degree, its now that the trend is changing and changing for good. It shall reflect on the MBA market in 6 to 8 yrs of time.

Hi , I am Ashish from India. I was reading all the post and happy to know the overall evaluation. I have got an offer to pursue International MBA at EADA Business School for September 2012 intake. I was going through the FT ratings for last 3 years for this school, and found that in 2011 EADA , Spain ranked 84 but in FT 2012 i am unable to find this school.

Can anyone, please help me to allocate this school overall reputation in the market, as the fee structure they are suggesting for September intake is 30, 000 euros for the International MBA and i think that is much cheaper as compare to other business schools in Spain.

Anyhow, my major concern as of now is towards EADA business school at Spain, and i don't know why it is not highlighted in FT ranking of 2012.

Help me, and let me know , if anyone is also planning to join this school in September 2012.

Thanks!!

EADA is cheaper because of the lower value: lower salaries in the Spanish market, and fewer Latin American openings, than in the bigger, better schools. Most of the bottom 30 schools left the rankings because of macroeconomic factors pushing down schools in countries with falling currencies. I can't think of any international student for whom it would be a good choice. To work in the Spanish speaking countries, take a course in Spanish. To work elsewhere, study elsewhere.

Hi Sir,

Thanks you very much for the note over EADA. As discussed, i don't have aim to work in Spain or in some Spanish organisation.

A brief about me : I have M.Tech(in biotechnology), but since last 3 years I have been engaged in Energy, environmental and energy finance market including carbon trading, carbon financing and look forward to serve myself in organisation like World bank, UN, DFID or other multilateral organisation in their climate change and energy division.

I know there are institutes which give MBA in energy management but they are not reputed as of now, and they will make my domain only into energy management,while I want to learn the other aspects and strategies of managing projects therefore, i though to have MBA or an International MBA .

But with a degree as M.Tech in biotechnology , i am unable to make myself entering to these sectors/organisations , as i need to have strong background of finance and strategy management as well case studies, there need to have MBA.

Therefore , I have selected to do MBA and having 2+ years of work experience i gave EADA test, and finally a call from EADA. Although this institute is not that good than others in Global prospectus but it is much better than those in India excluding IIM and ISB, as to enter to these institutes is very tough, and need lot much work exp.

What I think that it's better to do MBA from some institutes with good reputation in market rather others, and i think that if EADA can make it's entry to FT ratings in 2011 then it must be a good institutes if I talk globally. The fee is also not very high as compare to other schools which is not less than 80000 USD/60-70,000 euro.

Now, my very personal question to you sir, that should I go to EADA to pursue my MBA and to look forward to come back to India as well if get opportunity then will be working in Europe/USA in coming future. Will a degree from EADA , Spain make any impact over my career to work in Asia / other continents or should i search for more school where i can develop more suitability for in the management/ finance sector with scope to learn the energy market.

Also one very important thing, that, I am also getting MBA at Asian Institute of Management(AIM), Phillipines, could you please let me know that which one should I select EADA or AIM. This also help my selection.

Thanks for ur feedback. Looking forward !!

Eada will not help you much to find a job in Europe. Aim is a good school, but where do you want to work? Study where you want to work. How about the Bocconi campus in Mumbai ?

I 2nd Duncan.

Dear Indian Applicants,
Why do you give up so soon ?? With just 2 yrs of exp why most of us think that if there is no MBA degree in hand the world shall come to an end.

To work in the field you want to (if you really do) Carbon Trading and Financing (I am curious to know what is this though) - UN or any other good brand name associated to this field - Do you really need an MBA degree ??

Your case is every much similar to mine.
I am inclined towards pursuing career in Sports Sector.
I thought getting into any college shall do, as at end of the day colleges wont be able to help me to approach the companies I would want to work for. As Sports Sector is not a sort after or well organized sector, at least in India.

But then I realized, that if the plan is to get into unconventional sector, it is all the more important to get into a good school - to prove to the world, yes I was good enough to get into this college, but I am chasing my dream and hence want to work for you. (Hidden content - So that I can gave some exp and start my own enterprise)

I strongly suggest - Just re-check whether you really need an MBA degree.
If not, pursue courses and work for NGOs or volunteer work which shall help you build your profile stronger.

Back Track - research and see people who are already working for UN or World Bank - what is their profile, how have they reached there. If possible contact these people on linkedIn and seek for their guidance.

But if the answer is Yes, that you do need an MBA degree, then study as if your life depends on it and with your best score possible get into best college possible.
In my opinion even a degree from Baba Ramdev College of Management (doesnt exist, a joke) would value more than EADA in India.

Ashish I apologize if you thought I was too blunt in expressing myself here. But I took this liberty assuming that you are as serious about Carbon thing as I am about getting into Sports :)

Hi Duncan,

As I mentioned about my details in previous quotation, I want to pursue MBA from good European school / instead from some in India as the tuition fee is almost same as of EADA.

1. If I will do MBA from EADA , will it be not good to find good job in India? or should I do it from AIM.?

2. I want to work depend on the organisation which will take me, as my work experience which is not that much , its only 2 years , and I think as I want to work into management profile rather technical(as i have a technical degree), I should have an MBA from Good school, as I know with my current profile and GMAT score I will not get admission to Stanford, or any other excellent profile school, as of now.

3. My concern is also the money, as I f I will be getting admissions in per high ranking college, then the fee is very high as more than 40,00,000 Lakh INR, which I can"t afford , not today nether in coming years. My maximum range is 20,00,000 lakh INR.

4. I had a discussion with one of the student from EADA 2010 batch, and he raked the school 7.5 as overall on scale of 10. , but he also informed me that as EADA has a very good reputation and programme structure, but the career placement service is not that much good? what do you suggest?

5. I want to come back to India , and want to work here for another 5 year, and then planning for a shift either to Europe/USA. Will EADA degree help me in getting job after 5 years, outside India, or at that point also I have to struggle??????

6. AIM option is good or not??? confused, as the passed out student from EADA informed me that EADA is very much better than AIM, as of overall.

Please advise me , to all????

Thanks in advance ....

Ashish

If you want to work in India, study in India (or a school which feeds India like SP Jain in Dubai). It doesn't matter if Eada is better or worse: it does not have serious connections in India.

Ps if you want to work in Europe in five years then why not carry on working and do your MBA there in five years. Take a inexpensive diploma part time in India and focus on improving your profile as an applicant. Improve your English, extra curriculars and so on.

Hi Duncan,

Thanks for the reply. I appreciate your feed. After taking ur suggestions still am confused.

Again the concern that only IIM and ISB is ranked by FT , and no other Business School. Although they ranked EADA 84 last year.

I donot want to spend my money with a just ON degree in India and it's very tough to enter to IIM and ISB.

Therefore , by understanding the conditions of my country MBA as of now, I consider that European MBA would be much better.

My very frank Question? Should I got to pursue MBA from EADA? Does it has reputation Globally with its recognitions, and will i be able to enter to multilateral organisation like World Bank, UN and others, with 5 years exp. as well MBA from EADA in 2015 and later ????

I have also got offer from AIM, ABERDEEN BUSINESS SCHOOL(Scotland). How these schools would be???

Please help and guide me .

Thank you

Anish, you have to make a choice. If you want an MBA to place you into a more senior role in India then you have to study in India, even if you go to an inferior school. A European programme might be better, but it will not give you placement into India. The skills you get will be different: European programmes balance soft and hard skills, while Indian schools favour hard skills. I am not sure a European MBA from a second or third tier school will be an asset in India.

And, vice versa, I am not sure than an Indian MBA other than from a top five or top ten Indian school will be taken seriously in Europe.

EADA is not well known outside Spain. Personally, I think you'd get a good education there. AIM would be better educationally. Aberdeen would be much worse: AIM is a school of international standard (held back by Asian wages) while Aberdeen is a regional, oil school.

Considering the weak Spanish economy, EADA stands no chance of coming back into the MBA rankings. It will grow as an MSc provider.

A second or third tier Indian school would give you a different education and, indeed, I agree wth you that on balance it would be worse -- but perhaps more rigorous on quant skills. However, if you are taking an MBA for placement I don't see what a European school would give you in India. The exception is Bocconiin Mumbai.

Thanks Duncan, for elaborated discussion. After going long with your suggestion, this seems that EADA is not that much good high rank school.

Dincan, as I told you before, I am going to pursue my life next 15 - 20 years into energy management , energy finance, and other operations to energy market. I was told by one of the company manager that with your M.tech degree you should also have MBA in your hand, and that doesn't mater that you do it from top tier school, but you should increase your knowledge into finance and project management and that is possible by MBA, that's why I am very much keen to do MBA this year.

I don't have very much work exp(2 yrs), but i have a very strong extracurricular profile which includes selection as Young Global Energy Leader; also selected as East Asia Future Leader for Energy Security and many others.

I thought that pursue of MBA in coming 1 year will add impetus to my career profile. If today or after 5 years I will get admission in top tier MBA school as Stanford and other top 20, I dont have money to pay their fee and living allowance, therefore, I was thinking EADA as an option of today????

But, after reviewing your recommendations, I dont think that EADA is one of the good business school, or I should go with EADA MBA.

Please suggest ????

ashish07: i am following the posts on this thread. It is very clear that post EADA chances of an Indian job are minimal. As of now AIM seems to a better option.
U can also try for some Indian programs like PGCIM (11 mnth course by SP Jain), International Management by MDI Gurgaon, Great Lakes Chennai.
You can also look at IMT Dubai, SP Jain Dubai/Singapore.

Hi Duncan/All,
How is IE MBA as a brand? It ranks consistently high in most of the rankings but is it really well respected outside Spain e.g. in Australia, UK, middle East?
Thanks and Regards,
Ahmer

No, it's not well known outside Spanish-speaking countries.

Duncan,

just to touch base. Today I got the offer from IE Business School, Spain. Now I am extreme problem, as I have IE and EADA offer , but I don't have money to read in IE.

Arranging 30,000 euros for EADA was the very big task for me, but arrangng 60,000 euros for IE is impossible, but IE is one of the best.

Can I go for EADA as of low cost, and value for money process,,.. Please help???

IE offers various financing/funding options... did you check with them?

Yes, I checked with them, but as you suggest they will look for my more work exp. , more GMAT and I dont have more as of 2 yrs.

Therefore, i may be eligible to get 20% of total fee scholarship, which again count to 50,000 euros, ( if i get the scholarship).

is the EADA and IE course curriculum and structure is almost same, as both are spanish school. and are for 13 yrs.

Can i go with EADA study , if the above factor is same, as money is the main factor for me right now :*(

These two schools are so far apart in standing. There must be a better school than Eada which you could afford? Eada is not bad, but Cape Town?