Macquarie MBA vs WHU Otto Beisheim MBA vs HHL Leipzig MBA

muns0012

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Posted Oct 05, 2016 06:53

Hi All,

I have an experience of 5+ years in IT field, in India and the US. I have offers from Macquarie Australia, WHU Germany and HHL Leipzig. I would like to know which is better in terms of:

1. ROI after my MBA(Post MBA salary),
2. International Mobility (I would like to go back to India in a few years),
3. Job Market and possibilit of getting a job as soon as the course is over.

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Duncan

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Posted Oct 07, 2016 15:33

Assuming that you don't speak business-level German, which would be unusual with your background, German doesn't make sense. Having studied at HHL and other top tier schools, I think the quality of the HHL experience is very high, and shockingly underpriced. But without fluent German on arrival, it's almost pointless.

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muns0012

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Posted Oct 07, 2016 15:47

Assuming that you don't speak business-level German, which would be unusual with your background, German doesn't make sense. Having studied at HHL and other top tier schools, I think the quality of the HHL experience is very high, and shockingly underpriced. But without fluent German on arrival, it's almost pointless.

Thanks, Duncan. However, I have completed till b2.2 in German, way back in 2012, which is just one level below C1, the maximum level. And I can also cope with the language pretty well. So, that isn't a problem. Aldo, macquarie is in the top 100 in ft rankings, but these two aren't. But my friends and relatives in Australia say that work ex is considered more than the degree in australia and even if I do an mba, I would be given a role only according to my work ex and the pay scale will reflect that too. So, I was a little concerned in that part. What would you suggest in this case?

[quote]Assuming that you don't speak business-level German, which would be unusual with your background, German doesn't make sense. Having studied at HHL and other top tier schools, I think the quality of the HHL experience is very high, and shockingly underpriced. But without fluent German on arrival, it's almost pointless. [/quote]

Thanks, Duncan. However, I have completed till b2.2 in German, way back in 2012, which is just one level below C1, the maximum level. And I can also cope with the language pretty well. So, that isn't a problem. Aldo, macquarie is in the top 100 in ft rankings, but these two aren't. But my friends and relatives in Australia say that work ex is considered more than the degree in australia and even if I do an mba, I would be given a role only according to my work ex and the pay scale will reflect that too. So, I was a little concerned in that part. What would you suggest in this case?

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Duncan

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Posted Oct 07, 2016 16:09

B2 is two levels below C2, the maximum level. How is your accent and your cultural adjustment? If you prefer Germany, then HHL's 21-month track seems like an excellent way to perfect your German, work hard on losing your accent and get a much deeper and broader education than you would get at Macquarie. That said, MGSM seems like a more traditional route for an Indian, with less change of an unusual upside or downside.

PS Of course in terms of price performance, HHL has a massive advantage and the money you save would justify time job hunting and language learning. I think mpost Indians would prefer Sydney's literal and metaphorical climates.

[Edited by Duncan on Oct 07, 2016]

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muns0012

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Posted Oct 09, 2016 21:42

Thanks again. I have not had any problems with my accent. I have been hearing from my friends in Germany that the job market is quite complicated. However, the Australian route is pretty straight forward. So, I'm a little confused as to what to do here.

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Dan85

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Posted Oct 10, 2016 09:54

In what sense is the German Job market 'complicated'?

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muns0012

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Posted Oct 11, 2016 00:22

In what sense is the German Job market 'complicated'?

In the sense that it does not follow any pattern. For example, I have seen people who are good at the language (German) and have excellent grades throughout, but are struggling to find a job. On the other side, an average student, who does not even compare in even a single thing gets a good job.

[quote]In what sense is the German Job market 'complicated'?[/quote]

In the sense that it does not follow any pattern. For example, I have seen people who are good at the language (German) and have excellent grades throughout, but are struggling to find a job. On the other side, an average student, who does not even compare in even a single thing gets a good job.

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Dan85

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Posted Oct 11, 2016 18:06

These kind of things happen in every labour market and can have multiple other reasons (connections, interview skills, flexibility, to name a few).

I would not judge labour markets on the basis of individual cases. Working in Germany, I can't see anything particularly complicated about it. If you speak German on business Level and have a decent profile in a desired field, you're generally fine.

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eferrer000

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Posted Oct 12, 2016 00:09

WHU has a excellent reputation in Germany and there are plenty of job opportunities for WHU grads, even for those who don't speak any German. A number of recognized German and multi-national companies approach WHU for recruitment. In addition, WHU is an affordable School which yield a great value for your money (ROI). You also will have opportunities to taste other top Schools in India, China and USA since you have to take courses in these countries as requisites of your MBA at WHU, which extends your job opportunities (mobility).

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laurie

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Posted Oct 14, 2016 12:47

I'm skeptical about your claim that there are many jobs in Germany for non-German speakers. Care to link to a WHU career report which verifies this?

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mba_13

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Posted Oct 24, 2016 20:22

http://find-mba.com/board/europe/mba-fall-2017-mannheim-vs-esmt-vs-whu-vs-hhl-vs-edhec-48733
I am targeting FT MBA programs in Europe for Fall 2017 and I am primarily looking at following schools because of affordability and location (preferably Germany) -
-- Mannheim Business School; ESMT (Berlin); WHU (Vallendar); HHL (Leipzig); EDHEC

I am an Indian citizen currently working in USA in energy/utility sector as a Software Analyst. I have a total of 3.5 years Full time work experience as of now. I currently have "NO GERMAN LANGUAGE SKILLS". However, i would be taking German classes over the next 6-7 months. I want to work in an energy/tech industry in Europe for a few years and eventually move globally between USA/Europe/India.

My educational credentials are -
-- GMAT (expected 660-680)
-- MS in Software Engineering CGPA 3.56 (US university with 100% scholarship)
Completed various industry level projects during MS.
-- BS in Management Information System (Minor in Computer Science) 3.25 CGPA (US university with 50% scholarship)
Summer internship with a leading Internet Security Company.
-- Certificates on edX by IEEE, IIM Bangalore, Thunderbird School of Global Management.

I have also worked part time as a Class instructor (2 classes with 120 students) as well as an apartment manager (250 tenants) for 2 years during my MS program.
I was actively involved with around 5-6 students cultural and sports clubs while holding leadership positions in 2 of them. I also participated in various voluntary activities for disaster relief management and kids with disabilities.

Do I have any chance of getting into above mentioned schools or should i look into OTHER PROGRAMS ? It will be great if I can secure some sort of funding/scholarship for my MBA program.
Please advise and thank you.