URGENT : HHL Leipzig vs Lancaster


Let me make my position more clear. I am married to a german national. I recently relocated to germany in December last year. I realised that without german I will not get a good job. That was the time I started to think of doing mba. I was working for 5 years in indian army and retired as a major. I have engineering degree with masters degree in human resource. I have lot of management experience and administrative experience. Please advise which course will be best suited.

Let me make my position more clear. I am married to a german national. I recently relocated to germany in December last year. I realised that without german I will not get a good job. That was the time I started to think of doing mba. I was working for 5 years in indian army and retired as a major. I have engineering degree with masters degree in human resource. I have lot of management experience and administrative experience. Please advise which course will be best suited.
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I am interested to know how much variation will be there in terms of job opportunities in WHU and HHL
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I am interested to know how much variation will be there in terms of job opportunities in WHU and HHL
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Duncan

Compare their placement reports and their alumni networks using Xing or LinkedIn.

Compare their placement reports and their alumni networks using Xing or LinkedIn.
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Thank you for your advice. What do you think will be the best course to take as in specialization while doing mba..as per my profile.

Thank you for your advice. What do you think will be the best course to take as in specialization while doing mba..as per my profile.
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Duncan

I don't think specialisations matter that much; HHL does not have them and at WHU the concentration is rather cosmetic. Both programmes are general management degrees, and general managers get better salaries than functional managers.

Considering your experience, I think an executive MBA will be a very good choice for you. Look at the LMU-HHL degree, the Mannheim, HHL and WHU EMBAs, the Euro*MBA, which also involves HHL. The LMU also offers an EMBA, but this requires excellent German.

I don't think specialisations matter that much; HHL does not have them and at WHU the concentration is rather cosmetic. Both programmes are general management degrees, and general managers get better salaries than functional managers.

Considering your experience, I think an executive MBA will be a very good choice for you. Look at the LMU-HHL degree, the Mannheim, HHL and WHU EMBAs, the Euro*MBA, which also involves HHL. The LMU also offers an EMBA, but this requires excellent German.
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So Any of the two colleges is good if I get through. As my husband currently stays in Munich, I was also considering EURUNI. Is it not at all comparable to either HHL, WHU or Pforzheim ?

So Any of the two colleges is good if I get through. As my husband currently stays in Munich, I was also considering EURUNI. Is it not at all comparable to either HHL, WHU or Pforzheim ?
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Duncan

No that's not comparable at all. The others are legal, state-recognised universities with the right to award degrees in Germany.

No that's not comparable at all. The others are legal, state-recognised universities with the right to award degrees in Germany.
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Are there any good colleges near Munich where I can do MBA ?
I wish to stay with my husband..as we got recently married...

Are there any good colleges near Munich where I can do MBA ?
I wish to stay with my husband..as we got recently married...
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http://munich.euruni.edu/munich/Alumni.html#
How good is this school ?

http://munich.euruni.edu/munich/Alumni.html#
How good is this school ?
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Duncan

That is not a good school. As I say above the European University, unlike the other schools you mention, is not a state-recognised university with the right to award degrees in Germany. If you want to stay in Munich, then take the MSc at the LMU or the executive MBA run jointly by the TUM and HHL. www.innovationprogram.de

That is not a good school. As I say above the European University, unlike the other schools you mention, is not a state-recognised university with the right to award degrees in Germany. If you want to stay in Munich, then take the MSc at the LMU or the executive MBA run jointly by the TUM and HHL. www.innovationprogram.de
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Is the MSc offered by LMU equivalent to MBA and what are the chances of taking a job ?

Is the MSc offered by LMU equivalent to MBA and what are the chances of taking a job ?
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Duncan

Well, the MSc from a state-recognised university is much better than an MBA from a business which is not recognised by the state as university. From the LMU programmes, I guess starting salaries will be around 40,000. Take a look at http://www.en.bwl.uni-muenchen.de/study/studiengaenge/index.html

Of course an MBA from a school with similar standing to LMU will give you a much higher salary, but you have to pay attention to both the quality of the school and the nature of of the qualification.

Well, the MSc from a state-recognised university is much better than an MBA from a business which is not recognised by the state as university. From the LMU programmes, I guess starting salaries will be around 40,000. Take a look at http://www.en.bwl.uni-muenchen.de/study/studiengaenge/index.html

Of course an MBA from a school with similar standing to LMU will give you a much higher salary, but you have to pay attention to both the quality of the school and the nature of of the qualification.

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And how about the mba degree from TUM..will that be at par with hhl or whu ??
Also what is the minimum pay package expected if I do it from hhl or whu and TUM ??

And how about the mba degree from TUM..will that be at par with hhl or whu ??
Also what is the minimum pay package expected if I do it from hhl or whu and TUM ??
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Duncan

The outcomes are much more certain with a fulltime MBA, since they have Placement Support. Executive MBAs are aimed at people who already have Jobs, so finding work from them will depend much more on your personal Network. I think you can expect salaries from the top MBA programmes like HHL, WHU, ESMT and Mannheim to be at least 65k and on average around 80K. I strongly recommend those if you want secure outcomes. Also consider the excellent MBA at St Gallen, which is just a few hours from Munich.

AT the TUM, out outcomes would depend on which program you took, how good your Network is and how good your German is.

The outcomes are much more certain with a fulltime MBA, since they have Placement Support. Executive MBAs are aimed at people who already have Jobs, so finding work from them will depend much more on your personal Network. I think you can expect salaries from the top MBA programmes like HHL, WHU, ESMT and Mannheim to be at least 65k and on average around 80K. I strongly recommend those if you want secure outcomes. Also consider the excellent MBA at St Gallen, which is just a few hours from Munich.

AT the TUM, out outcomes would depend on which program you took, how good your Network is and how good your German is.
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The MSc program you mentioned is bilingual. I will prefer a program completely taught in English. St gallen is as far from munich as pforzheim where I have already secured a place. Any other suggestions are most welcome.

The MSc program you mentioned is bilingual. I will prefer a program completely taught in English. St gallen is as far from munich as pforzheim where I have already secured a place. Any other suggestions are most welcome.
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Duncan

But St Gallen is much better.

Munich runs a European MSc in English. It's on the page I linked to.

No, I think those are the only good options.

But St Gallen is much better.

Munich runs a European MSc in English. It's on the page I linked to.

No, I think those are the only good options.
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Duncan

The European Masters at LMU has a specialisation in strategy/change consulting. You'd spend the first semester in Lyon, have two semester-long internships (which could be around Munich, or anywhere you wanted) separated by the LMU semester on strategy and change
PS see http://www.european-master.com/Programme/Structure

The European Masters at LMU has a specialisation in strategy/change consulting. You'd spend the first semester in Lyon, have two semester-long internships (which could be around Munich, or anywhere you wanted) separated by the LMU semester on strategy and change
PS see http://www.european-master.com/Programme/Structure
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Is this course better than one offered by Pforzheim ?

Is this course better than one offered by Pforzheim ?
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Duncan

Well, I think that depends on your career goals. For most students, an internationally-accredited MBA like Pforzheim would be better. The Lyon-Munich programme would have a few advantages if you wanted to work in consulting specifically, but Pforzheim is much stronger and will probably have a better cohort.

Well, I think that depends on your career goals. For most students, an internationally-accredited MBA like Pforzheim would be better. The Lyon-Munich programme would have a few advantages if you wanted to work in consulting specifically, but Pforzheim is much stronger and will probably have a better cohort.
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So do you suggest going to Pforzheim over HHL/WHU knowing my state if :
1. I need to learn German C1 level minimum as I see language is a big hurdle to find a job in Germany.
2. Pforzheim offers a 2 years program which gives more time to learn German and even the college has a good reputation 3. It is near to Munich 2 hours 30 min drive ;-)
4.Low fee
5. I have secured a place.
6. Lot of Indian Alumni as I come from India as well.
Comments please..

So do you suggest going to Pforzheim over HHL/WHU knowing my state if :
1. I need to learn German C1 level minimum as I see language is a big hurdle to find a job in Germany.
2. Pforzheim offers a 2 years program which gives more time to learn German and even the college has a good reputation 3. It is near to Munich 2 hours 30 min drive ;-)
4.Low fee
5. I have secured a place.
6. Lot of Indian Alumni as I come from India as well.
Comments please..
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