MBA in Netherlands or Scotland.....


Hi,

What would you suggest about the MBA taught in English....in Netherlands or Scotland.
I see Rotterdam School of Management to best bet there. On the other hand, Edinburgh in Scotland.
Various criterias to be considered such as....location, job prospects, exposure...any other u think.

I am aware of the HSMP list. For Edinburgh 2 Years permit will be there. Rotterdam is on the HSMP while Edinburgh is not there.

I`ll be categorized under the asians stream. I know it `ll be tough to find a job staying in Europe. Which would u suggest and WHY???....



Hi,

What would you suggest about the MBA taught in English....in Netherlands or Scotland.
I see Rotterdam School of Management to best bet there. On the other hand, Edinburgh in Scotland.
Various criterias to be considered such as....location, job prospects, exposure...any other u think.

I am aware of the HSMP list. For Edinburgh 2 Years permit will be there. Rotterdam is on the HSMP while Edinburgh is not there.

I`ll be categorized under the asians stream. I know it `ll be tough to find a job staying in Europe. Which would u suggest and WHY???....

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Roland

In my experience, future employers value an MBA degree also partly because it demonstrates your language skills in English. Of course, nowadays most MBA schools teach in English but it is always more effective to improve one's language skills in a country with native-speakers as teachers and citizens. Therefore, if you are not a native speaker and you have the choice between an English speaking country and another, I would always go for the English-speaking country, unless the other school has a strong international reputation Like INSEAD e.g.).

In my experience, future employers value an MBA degree also partly because it demonstrates your language skills in English. Of course, nowadays most MBA schools teach in English but it is always more effective to improve one's language skills in a country with native-speakers as teachers and citizens. Therefore, if you are not a native speaker and you have the choice between an English speaking country and another, I would always go for the English-speaking country, unless the other school has a strong international reputation Like INSEAD e.g.).
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Hi,

My education till date has entirely been taught in english. I would rate myself above average....more than satisfactory.....when it comes to talking, writing or speaking english.

Here , what I want to know is...which School between Rotterdam and Edinburgh has a better reputaion in Europe(including UK) . Secondly, which B-school between these can put oneself in a better postion in the job market.

In economist MBA rankings Edinburgh is placed much higher whereas in all others such as FT, WSJ, Forbes etc etc.... Rotterdam School of Management has been rated among the top 25 B-schools in the World.

I know Rankings shouldn`t be the most appropriate method of evaluating one B-school. Still, I give 50% weightage to the rankings in this context.

Furthermore, I am concerned to know wat benefit can one get after studying from a traditional university such as Edinburgh in comparison to Rotterdam, a newly established in recent times.

What I think......after graduating from Edinburgh one can hope to get placed 'better' in UK similarly after graduatiing from Rotterdam one can hope to get placed 'better' in Europe other than UK......

Moreover , can you suggest which B-school between these 2 enjoy a better reputation/goodwill outside Europe.....and ....which has an edge in the corporate world(recruitment)..........Thanks


Hi,

My education till date has entirely been taught in english. I would rate myself above average....more than satisfactory.....when it comes to talking, writing or speaking english.

Here , what I want to know is...which School between Rotterdam and Edinburgh has a better reputaion in Europe(including UK) . Secondly, which B-school between these can put oneself in a better postion in the job market.

In economist MBA rankings Edinburgh is placed much higher whereas in all others such as FT, WSJ, Forbes etc etc.... Rotterdam School of Management has been rated among the top 25 B-schools in the World.

I know Rankings shouldn`t be the most appropriate method of evaluating one B-school. Still, I give 50% weightage to the rankings in this context.

Furthermore, I am concerned to know wat benefit can one get after studying from a traditional university such as Edinburgh in comparison to Rotterdam, a newly established in recent times.

What I think......after graduating from Edinburgh one can hope to get placed 'better' in UK similarly after graduatiing from Rotterdam one can hope to get placed 'better' in Europe other than UK......

Moreover , can you suggest which B-school between these 2 enjoy a better reputation/goodwill outside Europe.....and ....which has an edge in the corporate world(recruitment)..........Thanks
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Roland

I can only speak for the German job market but I would say that Edinburgh has an edge over Rotterdam, although just a tiny one. But this may also simply be because NL is a neighbour country to germany, therefore studying there does not really sound like going "abroad" if you know what I mean. I have heard that in Asia these differences are not perceived in the same way, so I guess it is a European perspective. If you plan to work in the UK, ireland or the US however my guess is that Edinburgh will be valued higher.

I can only speak for the German job market but I would say that Edinburgh has an edge over Rotterdam, although just a tiny one. But this may also simply be because NL is a neighbour country to germany, therefore studying there does not really sound like going "abroad" if you know what I mean. I have heard that in Asia these differences are not perceived in the same way, so I guess it is a European perspective. If you plan to work in the UK, ireland or the US however my guess is that Edinburgh will be valued higher.
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Thanks.....Wat if I plan to work in Europe other than UK/Ireland. Will Edinburgh be the one you`ll still bank on???

Is Rotterdam only limited to Netherlands and surrounding areas????.......

Please throw sum light of these 2 criterias as well.


Thanks.....Wat if I plan to work in Europe other than UK/Ireland. Will Edinburgh be the one you`ll still bank on???

Is Rotterdam only limited to Netherlands and surrounding areas????.......

Please throw sum light of these 2 criterias as well.

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LaVoz de G...

When choosing between these two I would finally rely on the FT rankings and go for Rotterdam. It has more international students (97%) and you are likely to get a higher salary afterwards: http://specials.ft.com/spdocs/top40euroschools.pdf

When choosing between these two I would finally rely on the FT rankings and go for Rotterdam. It has more international students (97%) and you are likely to get a higher salary afterwards: http://specials.ft.com/spdocs/top40euroschools.pdf
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Wat about the Economist Intelligence Unit Rankings. It is a sister concern of Financial Times. Whose Salary figures are fake. InEconomist MBA .....rankings for salary show a good difference in Rotterdam and Edinburgh...with Edinburgh much higher. On the other hand, the salary figures quoted in Financial Times shows a subsequent difference .....with Rotterdam with a upper hand.

Please let me know if I m comprehendable or not.....

Please throw sum light on this as well.....share ur views.!!!!


Wat about the Economist Intelligence Unit Rankings. It is a sister concern of Financial Times. Whose Salary figures are fake. InEconomist MBA .....rankings for salary show a good difference in Rotterdam and Edinburgh...with Edinburgh much higher. On the other hand, the salary figures quoted in Financial Times shows a subsequent difference .....with Rotterdam with a upper hand.

Please let me know if I m comprehendable or not.....

Please throw sum light on this as well.....share ur views.!!!!
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asdc

That's strange indeed. But both FT and Economist should be trustworthy sources of information, I wouldn't say that one of them is better or more reliable than the other.

That's strange indeed. But both FT and Economist should be trustworthy sources of information, I wouldn't say that one of them is better or more reliable than the other.
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york

I can only speak for the German job market but I would say that Edinburgh has an edge over Rotterdam, although just a tiny one.


I disagree. I think both b-schools are absolutely on par. In the the "popularity ranking" at http://www.find-mba.com/most-popular-mba-programs you will find RSM ranked 31. (38.) and Edinburgh 50. (45.) as per today.

<blockquote>I can only speak for the German job market but I would say that Edinburgh has an edge over Rotterdam, although just a tiny one.</blockquote>

I disagree. I think both b-schools are absolutely on par. In the the "popularity ranking" at http://www.find-mba.com/most-popular-mba-programs you will find RSM ranked 31. (38.) and Edinburgh 50. (45.) as per today.
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Which carry a better brand in the world as a freelancer MBA from one of these unis.

In the corporate world.....as well.....give some inputs

Which carry a better brand in the world as a freelancer MBA from one of these unis.

In the corporate world.....as well.....give some inputs
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Hi,Good Morning

My Name is Jose V.Cossa 25 years old i'm writting from Maputo Mozambique one southern african country.
I'm almost finish my course of businees and administration at Eduardo Mondlane public university, and i have been looking for an oppurtunity to continue MBA outside. I have been serching the probabilities to find oppurtunity of job at Netherland and them pay my MBA. I'm accountant working 5 years ago.
Please help me find Job at Netherland for midle of next year ( August 2007) because is big dream to study at netherland.

Sorry for my english but i have engaged in improving it.

Regards

J.V.C



Hi,Good Morning

My Name is Jose V.Cossa 25 years old i'm writting from Maputo Mozambique one southern african country.
I'm almost finish my course of businees and administration at Eduardo Mondlane public university, and i have been looking for an oppurtunity to continue MBA outside. I have been serching the probabilities to find oppurtunity of job at Netherland and them pay my MBA. I'm accountant working 5 years ago.
Please help me find Job at Netherland for midle of next year ( August 2007) because is big dream to study at netherland.

Sorry for my english but i have engaged in improving it.

Regards

J.V.C

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After much much research I have made my decision in favour of University of Edinburgh.
I hope to get a little better international exposure, hone my english skills, Location wise both are at par. Edinburgh is the caipal of Scotland and among the top 3 financial cities of Europe. Rotterdam on the other hand is among the major shipping ports of the world. When it comes to job market I was much confused. Both Schools command respect of the same parity but getting a job in Netherlands or surrounding areas for Asians is one kick in the ass....one has to struggle, fight and is not guaranteed a job that one expects when compared to other European equals.
Edinburgh has much oppurtunities and is better as this gap is minimized. A very old University though has been demoted in the recent 5-7 years...but....the university is sure to fight back and revive the lost glory.

After much much research I have made my decision in favour of University of Edinburgh.
I hope to get a little better international exposure, hone my english skills, Location wise both are at par. Edinburgh is the caipal of Scotland and among the top 3 financial cities of Europe. Rotterdam on the other hand is among the major shipping ports of the world. When it comes to job market I was much confused. Both Schools command respect of the same parity but getting a job in Netherlands or surrounding areas for Asians is one kick in the ass....one has to struggle, fight and is not guaranteed a job that one expects when compared to other European equals.
Edinburgh has much oppurtunities and is better as this gap is minimized. A very old University though has been demoted in the recent 5-7 years...but....the university is sure to fight back and revive the lost glory.
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york

As I said: I think you could not go wrong with your decision as both schools are excellent. I have been to Edinburgh a couple of years ago and I really loved it. It's a cosy studenty town with a lot of cultural things going on. Good luck with your studies!

As I said: I think you could not go wrong with your decision as both schools are excellent. I have been to Edinburgh a couple of years ago and I really loved it. It's a cosy studenty town with a lot of cultural things going on. Good luck with your studies!
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James

Guys,

You have all my respect, even if it is hard to me to understand why, with all the good quality MBAs based in city like Barcelona, Melbourne, Madrid...which are even cheaper you are still struggling to get an MBA in a bad weather country.

Please explain me why

Guys,

You have all my respect, even if it is hard to me to understand why, with all the good quality MBAs based in city like Barcelona, Melbourne, Madrid...which are even cheaper you are still struggling to get an MBA in a bad weather country.

Please explain me why
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Post MBA

I couldn't agree more. I spent 6 months in Edinburgh in 1998 and loved every minute of it. it is wonderful place to be a student.

Full Disclosure: I am participating in the FIND MBA board as an excercise to provide an illustration for a segment I am teaching of the course "What the CEO wants you to know" at BMI http://www.barcelonami.org One of the readings for the segment is http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/15.04/wired40_ceo.html Click on Post MBA for more biographical info.


As I said: I think you could not go wrong with your decision as both schools are excellent. I have been to Edinburgh a couple of years ago and I really loved it. It's a cosy studenty town with a lot of cultural things going on. Good luck with your studies!

I couldn't agree more. I spent 6 months in Edinburgh in 1998 and loved every minute of it. it is wonderful place to be a student.

Full Disclosure: I am participating in the FIND MBA board as an excercise to provide an illustration for a segment I am teaching of the course "What the CEO wants you to know" at BMI http://www.barcelonami.org One of the readings for the segment is http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/15.04/wired40_ceo.html Click on Post MBA for more biographical info.


<blockquote>As I said: I think you could not go wrong with your decision as both schools are excellent. I have been to Edinburgh a couple of years ago and I really loved it. It's a cosy studenty town with a lot of cultural things going on. Good luck with your studies!</blockquote>
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