HHL 2014


naked

Let me give it a try:


1. Life at HHL

I like it a lot. Since HHL is still a very small business school (500 students), you will get to know almost everyone on a personal level. Chances are high that even the administrative staff will know who you are after a couple of months. Furthermore, there is a strong "HHL spirit" among the students.
Coming from a non-traditional background, I have learned a lot during my first 5 months here. However, I must also say that the workload, especially in the first term, is very high.
One thing that can be a little bit frustrating is the sometimes low work attitude of some exchange students.


2. Student diversity.


Concerning nationality: High. I think we have 9 or 10 different nationalities in the current batch, whereas Indians and Germans represent the highest fraction.
Concerning background: High. We have students from various backgrounds. Let me just mention a few which come into my mind: Banking, VC, Consulting, Academia, Chemical Industry, Telecommunications, IT


3. Alumni network.


Still rather small (HHL was brought to life again in 1992) although I don't know concrete numbers.
Nevertheless, HHL alumni are usually easily approachable. There are numerous events where alumni come back to HHL in order to recruit, especially within the consulting and start-up sector. In case you want to apply somewhere (in Germany), it is very likely that there is at least one HHL alumnus working there. For you, this means that the career center can put you into contact with this person.


4. Have you seen any entrepreneurship activity on campus.

Lots. There is s start-up career fair once or twice a year. Besides, there is a student initiative called "accelerate" which focusses solely on entrepreneurship. They organize a start-up conference which takes place every year. Furthermore, you will most likely see at least 2-3 HHL entrepreneurs giving talks at HHL. Finally, I know of 2 VCs headed by either HHL alumni.


5. Job prospects as compared to West Germany.

Concerning job prospects, the West is still ahead but the East is catching up. For example, Porsche just built a new factory in Leipzig and Zalando a logistics center. Besides, Berlin and its huge start-up scene is just 2 hours away.
Of course, if you want to work in finance, Frankfurt is still the place to go but bear in mind that Germany is tiny in comparison to India. ;-) You can easily reach every city in Germany within 5 hours and you certainly not limited to East Germany. In fact, I know of some M.Sc. people (they have to do their internship from Jan-Mar) currently doing their internships at IBs in Frankfurt.


6. Quality of education.

Good to excellent. Of course, it always depends on the lecturer and on your expectations. But in general, I can say that HHL offers a nice mixture of HHL professors and externals offering classes. Usually, external professors are from well known (business) schools around the world.


7. How are the Professors (I did talk to Prof. Velamuri and it was encouraging)

In general very nice and approachable. Some are stricter than others (usually, the German profs are on the stricter side ;-). Of all classes I've had so far (something between 13-15), There were 3 classes so far I did not like too much. In my opinion, all the others were really good.


8. Social life at Leipzig.

Compared to Mannheim: Way better. I have lived in several German cities so far, and Leipzig is my favorite by far.


9. Expenses at Leipzig for an average student.

Leipzig is very cheap, especially if you compare it with West Germany. You can easily make a decent living with 800-1000?/month if living in a small appartment. Of course, this always depends on your living standards.

I hope I answered most of your questions to your satisfaction. As you might have inferred from my post, I am very happy at HHL.

Let me give it a try:

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1. Life at HHL
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I like it a lot. Since HHL is still a very small business school (500 students), you will get to know almost everyone on a personal level. Chances are high that even the administrative staff will know who you are after a couple of months. Furthermore, there is a strong "HHL spirit" among the students.
Coming from a non-traditional background, I have learned a lot during my first 5 months here. However, I must also say that the workload, especially in the first term, is very high.
One thing that can be a little bit frustrating is the sometimes low work attitude of some exchange students.

<blockquote>
2. Student diversity.
</blockquote>

Concerning nationality: High. I think we have 9 or 10 different nationalities in the current batch, whereas Indians and Germans represent the highest fraction.
Concerning background: High. We have students from various backgrounds. Let me just mention a few which come into my mind: Banking, VC, Consulting, Academia, Chemical Industry, Telecommunications, IT

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3. Alumni network.
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Still rather small (HHL was brought to life again in 1992) although I don't know concrete numbers.
Nevertheless, HHL alumni are usually easily approachable. There are numerous events where alumni come back to HHL in order to recruit, especially within the consulting and start-up sector. In case you want to apply somewhere (in Germany), it is very likely that there is at least one HHL alumnus working there. For you, this means that the career center can put you into contact with this person.

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4. Have you seen any entrepreneurship activity on campus.
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Lots. There is s start-up career fair once or twice a year. Besides, there is a student initiative called "accelerate" which focusses solely on entrepreneurship. They organize a start-up conference which takes place every year. Furthermore, you will most likely see at least 2-3 HHL entrepreneurs giving talks at HHL. Finally, I know of 2 VCs headed by either HHL alumni.

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5. Job prospects as compared to West Germany.
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Concerning job prospects, the West is still ahead but the East is catching up. For example, Porsche just built a new factory in Leipzig and Zalando a logistics center. Besides, Berlin and its huge start-up scene is just 2 hours away.
Of course, if you want to work in finance, Frankfurt is still the place to go but bear in mind that Germany is tiny in comparison to India. ;-) You can easily reach every city in Germany within 5 hours and you certainly not limited to East Germany. In fact, I know of some M.Sc. people (they have to do their internship from Jan-Mar) currently doing their internships at IBs in Frankfurt.

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6. Quality of education.
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Good to excellent. Of course, it always depends on the lecturer and on your expectations. But in general, I can say that HHL offers a nice mixture of HHL professors and externals offering classes. Usually, external professors are from well known (business) schools around the world.

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7. How are the Professors (I did talk to Prof. Velamuri and it was encouraging)
</blockquote>
In general very nice and approachable. Some are stricter than others (usually, the German profs are on the stricter side ;-). Of all classes I've had so far (something between 13-15), There were 3 classes so far I did not like too much. In my opinion, all the others were really good.

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8. Social life at Leipzig.
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Compared to Mannheim: Way better. I have lived in several German cities so far, and Leipzig is my favorite by far.

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9. Expenses at Leipzig for an average student.
</blockquote>
Leipzig is very cheap, especially if you compare it with West Germany. You can easily make a decent living with 800-1000?/month if living in a small appartment. Of course, this always depends on your living standards.

I hope I answered most of your questions to your satisfaction. As you might have inferred from my post, I am very happy at HHL.
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@naked: Thanks much for such a detailed description. Really appreciate it. I also did a lot of research today on Mannheim Vs Leipzig and slowly I am inclined towards HHL. Your words added a little more confidence in that thought... :-)

I just got an email from HHL today asking me if I would be interested in coming a month early and joining a language class. I guess they will run this class based on the number of students who are interested. Looks like a good initiative. Also on the day of my interview, based on my talks with the Prof, I was inclined towards HHL. (I had my MBS and HHL interview on the same day).

I will finalize my decision by this week or the next. Will update you as well.

Thanks much again for the input... :-)

@naked: Thanks much for such a detailed description. Really appreciate it. I also did a lot of research today on Mannheim Vs Leipzig and slowly I am inclined towards HHL. Your words added a little more confidence in that thought... :-)

I just got an email from HHL today asking me if I would be interested in coming a month early and joining a language class. I guess they will run this class based on the number of students who are interested. Looks like a good initiative. Also on the day of my interview, based on my talks with the Prof, I was inclined towards HHL. (I had my MBS and HHL interview on the same day).

I will finalize my decision by this week or the next. Will update you as well.

Thanks much again for the input... :-)
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Bobby

I'll see you in the language course if you choose HHL! I will be participating in it as well. Keep us updated!

I'll see you in the language course if you choose HHL! I will be participating in it as well. Keep us updated!
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arghya05

i guess in berlin there are lots of english speaking startups and if u network job is not a problem.
naked can u confirm how many Indians are searching for jobs in germany and how many have returned back

i guess in berlin there are lots of english speaking startups and if u network job is not a problem.
naked can u confirm how many Indians are searching for jobs in germany and how many have returned back
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@arghya05: I would be learning German so I am not concerned with language requirement. If you are also planning to attend HHL, I guess it would be ideal if we all can take up the August classes. I will try to attend those.

As for how many Indians are searching for jobs and how many returned back; I believe this is a very vague question and I doubt if this can be answered... :-)

I have studied and worked internationally before as well and if you are heading for a international destination for either education or work, first thing I would suggest it don't think about how others from your country are faring. Its up to every individual to deal with everything around him. Please don't take any offense, but that's my honest opinion.

@arghya05: I would be learning German so I am not concerned with language requirement. If you are also planning to attend HHL, I guess it would be ideal if we all can take up the August classes. I will try to attend those.

As for how many Indians are searching for jobs and how many returned back; I believe this is a very vague question and I doubt if this can be answered... :-)

I have studied and worked internationally before as well and if you are heading for a international destination for either education or work, first thing I would suggest it don't think about how others from your country are faring. Its up to every individual to deal with everything around him. Please don't take any offense, but that's my honest opinion.

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@Bobby: I am inclined towards HHL but haven't taken any decision yet. But if I choose HHL, I ll also try to attend the August classes.... :-)

@Bobby: I am inclined towards HHL but haven't taken any decision yet. But if I choose HHL, I ll also try to attend the August classes.... :-)
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naked


naked can u confirm how many Indians are searching for jobs in germany and how many have returned back


Sorry, I don't have any information concerning that. However, what I can certainly say is that -- regardless of the business school you attend -- it is very hard to find a job in Germany if you don't speak German. Of course, it is not impossible, but your chances are way higher if you speak German. Having said that, my guess would be that most Indians without enough German skills went back to India after their graduation.

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naked can u confirm how many Indians are searching for jobs in germany and how many have returned back </blockquote>

Sorry, I don't have any information concerning that. However, what I can certainly say is that -- regardless of the business school you attend -- it is very hard to find a job in Germany if you don't speak German. Of course, it is not impossible, but your chances are way higher if you speak German. Having said that, my guess would be that most Indians without enough German skills went back to India after their graduation.
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@Bobby: I have made up my mind about attending HHL. And most probably I will be attending the language course as well. Guess we will catch up in August... :-)

@Naked: Thanks a lot for your feedback... :-) With some research and encouraging words you the faculty and you as well... I finally made up my mind.

@maliang: What about you buddy? Did you had your interview with Mannheim yet?

@Bobby: I have made up my mind about attending HHL. And most probably I will be attending the language course as well. Guess we will catch up in August... :-)

@Naked: Thanks a lot for your feedback... :-) With some research and encouraging words you the faculty and you as well... I finally made up my mind.

@maliang: What about you buddy? Did you had your interview with Mannheim yet?
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sinbaddang

@Bobby: I have made up my mind about attending HHL. And most probably I will be attending the language course as well. Guess we will catch up in August... :-)

@Naked: Thanks a lot for your feedback... :-) With some research and encouraging words you the faculty and you as well... I finally made up my mind.

@maliang: What about you buddy? Did you had your interview with Mannheim yet?

I am eager to know what drive your decision to HHL? all things equal, it sounds more fair to choose school appearing on Financial times ranking

<blockquote>@Bobby: I have made up my mind about attending HHL. And most probably I will be attending the language course as well. Guess we will catch up in August... :-)

@Naked: Thanks a lot for your feedback... :-) With some research and encouraging words you the faculty and you as well... I finally made up my mind.

@maliang: What about you buddy? Did you had your interview with Mannheim yet?</blockquote>
I am eager to know what drive your decision to HHL? all things equal, it sounds more fair to choose school appearing on Financial times ranking
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Well if you go over the entire thread and our conversations, you get some points. 1 simple answer - I am more interested in entrepreneurship and that's why HHL. 130 successful startups in 15 years. Thats about 9 per year.

I do not care much about ranking. In Germany there is not much difference between MBS and HHL. After talking to both MBS and HHL professors, I am more comfortable with HHL. A brief from @Naked helped as well. Moreover, after all the research and discussion, it comes to personal decision.

Hope it helps... :-)

Well if you go over the entire thread and our conversations, you get some points. 1 simple answer - I am more interested in entrepreneurship and that's why HHL. 130 successful startups in 15 years. Thats about 9 per year.

I do not care much about ranking. In Germany there is not much difference between MBS and HHL. After talking to both MBS and HHL professors, I am more comfortable with HHL. A brief from @Naked helped as well. Moreover, after all the research and discussion, it comes to personal decision.

Hope it helps... :-)
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Bobby

Great decision! I will definitely see you in the language course.

Great decision! I will definitely see you in the language course.
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sinbaddang

Well if you go over the entire thread and our conversations, you get some points. 1 simple answer - I am more interested in entrepreneurship and that's why HHL. 130 successful startups in 15 years. Thats about 9 per year.

I do not care much about ranking. In Germany there is not much difference between MBS and HHL. After talking to both MBS and HHL professors, I am more comfortable with HHL. A brief from @Naked helped as well. Moreover, after all the research and discussion, it comes to personal decision.

Hope it helps... :-)

A brave decision, i would say. I am a big fan of HHL but probably i will for MBS if i have the option, disregard of quality of education. Good luck with your startup decision, i may go to where i understand the most.

<blockquote>Well if you go over the entire thread and our conversations, you get some points. 1 simple answer - I am more interested in entrepreneurship and that's why HHL. 130 successful startups in 15 years. Thats about 9 per year.

I do not care much about ranking. In Germany there is not much difference between MBS and HHL. After talking to both MBS and HHL professors, I am more comfortable with HHL. A brief from @Naked helped as well. Moreover, after all the research and discussion, it comes to personal decision.

Hope it helps... :-)</blockquote>
A brave decision, i would say. I am a big fan of HHL but probably i will for MBS if i have the option, disregard of quality of education. Good luck with your startup decision, i may go to where i understand the most.
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Bobby

Let us know of your decision! Please remember too that this discussion is for those who have chosen or will choose HHL for 2014, not a discussion about MBS. I'm sure there are posts about MBS that you can research. Hopefully see you at HHL!

Let us know of your decision! Please remember too that this discussion is for those who have chosen or will choose HHL for 2014, not a discussion about MBS. I'm sure there are posts about MBS that you can research. Hopefully see you at HHL!
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@sinbadang... In the end all of these schools are different by an inch... I wish you good luch with your choice... May we all get what we want... :)

@sinbadang... In the end all of these schools are different by an inch... I wish you good luch with your choice... May we all get what we want... :)
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naked

@mba_germany: Great to hear that you chose HHL. I am looking forward to see you on campus in August.

@mba_germany: Great to hear that you chose HHL. I am looking forward to see you on campus in August.
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@naked: Thanks for your help... :) I ll catch up with you in Aug.. :-)

@naked: Thanks for your help... :) I ll catch up with you in Aug.. :-)
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Thats great... :-)

No doubt their selection procedure was great... I really enjoyed making the video which they asked for. I sent them an email saying I won't be able to attend and the director got back asking as why I am choosing another institution. I guess they really try hard to retain the selected candidates as well.

I am sure you will do well. Good luck... :-)

Thats great... :-)

No doubt their selection procedure was great... I really enjoyed making the video which they asked for. I sent them an email saying I won't be able to attend and the director got back asking as why I am choosing another institution. I guess they really try hard to retain the selected candidates as well.

I am sure you will do well. Good luck... :-)
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I told them about HHL. They offered me couple of sops as well since then and also told me that they will talk to a company regarding my venture plans and will try to get a scholarship from them. Lets see where that goes. But I doubt I ll change my decision...

I told them about HHL. They offered me couple of sops as well since then and also told me that they will talk to a company regarding my venture plans and will try to get a scholarship from them. Lets see where that goes. But I doubt I ll change my decision...
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sinbaddang

HHL replied, said that "I`m really sorry to hear that. Please let me know if something went wrong during the admission process that made you not to take HHL`s offer."
I am confused again. I had a really nice application process with HHL......God, I hate to say no to people......
Liang

True, HHL is super effecient and quick in communication. If not for job prospect, I would go for HHL instead my current choice in north america.

<blockquote>HHL replied, said that "I`m really sorry to hear that. Please let me know if something went wrong during the admission process that made you not to take HHL`s offer."
I am confused again. I had a really nice application process with HHL......God, I hate to say no to people......
Liang</blockquote>
True, HHL is super effecient and quick in communication. If not for job prospect, I would go for HHL instead my current choice in north america.
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In that comparison MBS is pretty active too. Since the time I sent them an email declining the admission. They have been in constant touch with me and have asked me to reconsider and by offering some sops.

I guess proximity to Frankfurt helps MBS.

Liang... Yeah it feels bad.. .I know the feeling... :-)

In that comparison MBS is pretty active too. Since the time I sent them an email declining the admission. They have been in constant touch with me and have asked me to reconsider and by offering some sops.

I guess proximity to Frankfurt helps MBS.

Liang... Yeah it feels bad.. .I know the feeling... :-)
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