German MBAs


LaVoz de G...

Is there anyone here in this board who knows, which MBA programs in Germany have the best reputation internationally, especially in eastern European countries? Thanks

Is there anyone here in this board who knows, which MBA programs in Germany have the best reputation internationally, especially in eastern European countries? Thanks
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Roland

Its hard to tell since almost none of the GErman MBAs take part in the rankings by Equis and the other institutions. I think the ESMT in Berlin should be a good bet, also ESCP-EAP in BErlin is known internationally. Did you have a look at the German B-school ranking (http://www.find-mba.com/mba-rankings)?

Its hard to tell since almost none of the GErman MBAs take part in the rankings by Equis and the other institutions. I think the ESMT in Berlin should be a good bet, also ESCP-EAP in BErlin is known internationally. Did you have a look at the German B-school ranking (http://www.find-mba.com/mba-rankings)?
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LaVoz de G...

Thanks Roland! Yes, I did check the rankings, but I would appreciate some more info.... Any more comments?

Thanks Roland! Yes, I did check the rankings, but I would appreciate some more info.... Any more comments?
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Sandra

I'm an American and hoping to go to either Berlin (ESCP-EAP or BSE) or Leipzig for an MBA this year. Any thoughts about these schools?

I'm an American and hoping to go to either Berlin (ESCP-EAP or BSE) or Leipzig for an MBA this year. Any thoughts about these schools?
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Roland

As far as the location is concerned... well, you can only go to Berlin, its a great city, very vibrant. I also think that ESCP-EAP has a better reputation than Leipzig, actually I havent heard of Leipzig so far. ESMT in Berlin would be another choice, its supposed to become one of the top schools but it only got going this year.

As far as the location is concerned... well, you can only go to Berlin, its a great city, very vibrant. I also think that ESCP-EAP has a better reputation than Leipzig, actually I havent heard of Leipzig so far. ESMT in Berlin would be another choice, its supposed to become one of the top schools but it only got going this year.
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Sandra

yup. I've heard the same thing about Berlin. I will check out ESMT for sure. Thanks, Roland. Are you a student in Germany?

yup. I've heard the same thing about Berlin. I will check out ESMT for sure. Thanks, Roland. Are you a student in Germany?
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Roland

Yes, I am german, from Berlin to be more precise. So my advice regarding Leipzig-Berlin might be biased ;-)

Yes, I am german, from Berlin to be more precise. So my advice regarding Leipzig-Berlin might be biased ;-)
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Post MBA

The only German program that was discussed when I was doing my MBA (2001-2003) is WHU-Koblenz. Their international brand is driven by an association with Kellogg. My experience during a summer program there in Vallendar was very positive.

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Is there anyone here in this board who knows, which MBA programs in Germany have the best reputation internationally, especially in eastern European countries? Thanks

The only German program that was discussed when I was doing my MBA (2001-2003) is WHU-Koblenz. Their international brand is driven by an association with Kellogg. My experience during a summer program there in Vallendar was very positive.

Full Disclosure: I am participating in the FIND MBA board as an excercise to provide an illustration for a segment I am teaching of the course "What the CEO wants you to know" at BMI www.barcelonami.org One of the readings for the segment is www.wired.com/wired/archive/15.04/wired40_ceo.html? Click on POST MBA for more biographical info.

<blockquote>Is there anyone here in this board who knows, which MBA programs in Germany have the best reputation internationally, especially in eastern European countries? Thanks</blockquote>
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Is there anyone here in this board who knows, which MBA programs in Germany have the best reputation internationally, especially in eastern European countries? Thanks


German MBAs do not have a good reputation in Eastern Europe, there are local schools better than any MBA in Germany.

one of them..

http://www.sgh.waw.pl/en/ogolne-en/

<blockquote>Is there anyone here in this board who knows, which MBA programs in Germany have the best reputation internationally, especially in eastern European countries? Thanks</blockquote>

German MBAs do not have a good reputation in Eastern Europe, there are local schools better than any MBA in Germany.

one of them..

http://www.sgh.waw.pl/en/ogolne-en/
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I'm an American and hoping to go to either Berlin (ESCP-EAP or BSE) or Leipzig for an MBA this year. Any thoughts about these schools?


Why would you do that? If you are thinking about Europe you should be looking to the East not West. Poland, Ukraine and Russia are where the growth is, and having an MBA from Germany will do next to nothing for you. If you are interested in these markets you either need a truly top notch MBA from US or LBS/HEC, or go to a good local school and network with the locals.

<blockquote>I'm an American and hoping to go to either Berlin (ESCP-EAP or BSE) or Leipzig for an MBA this year. Any thoughts about these schools? </blockquote>

Why would you do that? If you are thinking about Europe you should be looking to the East not West. Poland, Ukraine and Russia are where the growth is, and having an MBA from Germany will do next to nothing for you. If you are interested in these markets you either need a truly top notch MBA from US or LBS/HEC, or go to a good local school and network with the locals.
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copernicus

Is there anyone here in this board who knows, which MBA programs in Germany have the best reputation internationally, especially in eastern European countries? Thanks


German MBAs do not have a good reputation in Eastern Europe, there are local schools better than any MBA in Germany.

one of them..

http://www.sgh.waw.pl/en/ogolne-en/


This one is better..
Warsaw Univ of Tech
MBA Partnership with LBS and HEC

http://www.business.edu.pl/index.php

<blockquote><blockquote>Is there anyone here in this board who knows, which MBA programs in Germany have the best reputation internationally, especially in eastern European countries? Thanks</blockquote>

German MBAs do not have a good reputation in Eastern Europe, there are local schools better than any MBA in Germany.

one of them..

http://www.sgh.waw.pl/en/ogolne-en/</blockquote>

This one is better..
Warsaw Univ of Tech
MBA Partnership with LBS and HEC

http://www.business.edu.pl/index.php

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Irena

Hi, could you name me some B Schools in Ukraine or Russia which have an international reputation? Until now I didn't come accross any in the rankings, nor elsewhere. To me the MBAs you can do in those two countries seem to have a local appeal.

Hi, could you name me some B Schools in Ukraine or Russia which have an international reputation? Until now I didn't come accross any in the rankings, nor elsewhere. To me the MBAs you can do in those two countries seem to have a local appeal.
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Is there anyone here in this board who knows, which MBA programs in Germany have the best reputation internationally, especially in eastern European countries? Thanks


German MBAs do not have a good reputation in Eastern Europe, there are local schools better than any MBA in Germany.

one of them..

http://www.sgh.waw.pl/en/ogolne-en/


This one is better..
Warsaw Univ of Tech
MBA Partnership with LBS and HEC

http://www.business.edu.pl/index.php




Warsaw School of Economics is the best business/economics school in the region.
In fact it is by far the most highly recruited school by all the investment banks in London looking to fill positions dealing with Central/Eastern Europe. That is a fact, call up HR at JP Morgan or any other large bank in London and see what they say.

That Warsaw Polytechnic might be good in hard sciences but not for business.

<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>Is there anyone here in this board who knows, which MBA programs in Germany have the best reputation internationally, especially in eastern European countries? Thanks</blockquote>

German MBAs do not have a good reputation in Eastern Europe, there are local schools better than any MBA in Germany.

one of them..

http://www.sgh.waw.pl/en/ogolne-en/</blockquote>

This one is better..
Warsaw Univ of Tech
MBA Partnership with LBS and HEC

http://www.business.edu.pl/index.php

</blockquote>



Warsaw School of Economics is the best business/economics school in the region.
In fact it is by far the most highly recruited school by all the investment banks in London looking to fill positions dealing with Central/Eastern Europe. That is a fact, call up HR at JP Morgan or any other large bank in London and see what they say.

That Warsaw Polytechnic might be good in hard sciences but not for business.
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Irena

If you are thinking about Europe you should be looking to the East not West. Poland, Ukraine and Russia are where the growth is, and having an MBA from Germany will do next to nothing for you. If you are interested in these markets you either need a truly top notch MBA from US or LBS/HEC, or go to a good local school and network with the locals.


In the rankings I only found Warsaw University of Technology, and not SGH. So do you think in general SGH is perceived as the better school internationally, by employers?

BTW there are some other good schools in Eastern Europe too, such as Corvinus University in Budapest.

I was just wondering about Ukrainian and Russian programs. Which local B schools there did you think of?

<blockquote> If you are thinking about Europe you should be looking to the East not West. Poland, Ukraine and Russia are where the growth is, and having an MBA from Germany will do next to nothing for you. If you are interested in these markets you either need a truly top notch MBA from US or LBS/HEC, or go to a good local school and network with the locals.
</blockquote>

In the rankings I only found Warsaw University of Technology, and not SGH. So do you think in general SGH is perceived as the better school internationally, by employers?

BTW there are some other good schools in Eastern Europe too, such as Corvinus University in Budapest.

I was just wondering about Ukrainian and Russian programs. Which local B schools there did you think of?
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If you are thinking about Europe you should be looking to the East not West. Poland, Ukraine and Russia are where the growth is, and having an MBA from Germany will do next to nothing for you. If you are interested in these markets you either need a truly top notch MBA from US or LBS/HEC, or go to a good local school and network with the locals.


In the rankings I only found Warsaw University of Technology, and not SGH. So do you think in general SGH is perceived as the better school internationally, by employers?

BTW there are some other good schools in Eastern Europe too, such as Corvinus University in Budapest.

I was just wondering about Ukrainian and Russian programs. Which local B schools there did you think of?


Rankings are for show purposes. Central/Eastern European universities will not show up in them for a while, the reason, simple, lack of $$$.

As I mentioned before that Warsaw Tech school is very good but also very quantitative... I think overall Warsaw School of Eco is better known in Europe. As for Ukraine, and Russia, I am not sure, but Moscow has few top notch quant Universities, just not sure if they offer MBAs
Usually in Central/Eastern Europe one gets an Msc in Eco/Finance not an MBA.

<blockquote><blockquote> If you are thinking about Europe you should be looking to the East not West. Poland, Ukraine and Russia are where the growth is, and having an MBA from Germany will do next to nothing for you. If you are interested in these markets you either need a truly top notch MBA from US or LBS/HEC, or go to a good local school and network with the locals.
</blockquote>

In the rankings I only found Warsaw University of Technology, and not SGH. So do you think in general SGH is perceived as the better school internationally, by employers?

BTW there are some other good schools in Eastern Europe too, such as Corvinus University in Budapest.

I was just wondering about Ukrainian and Russian programs. Which local B schools there did you think of?</blockquote>

Rankings are for show purposes. Central/Eastern European universities will not show up in them for a while, the reason, simple, lack of $$$.

As I mentioned before that Warsaw Tech school is very good but also very quantitative... I think overall Warsaw School of Eco is better known in Europe. As for Ukraine, and Russia, I am not sure, but Moscow has few top notch quant Universities, just not sure if they offer MBAs
Usually in Central/Eastern Europe one gets an Msc in Eco/Finance not an MBA.
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Irena

Money certainly plays a role regarding rankings, but I'm sure if a Ukrainian or Russian MBA program had an as high international standard as, let's say, the top US MBAs, money would not be the problem preventing the program from being ranked...

Besides that, you can't say positioning in the rankings is only about money. It does reflect a certain international quality standard. It just looked weird to me that not a single one of the Ukrainian and Russian MBAs is to be found.

But if you say MBA is not so common in those countries, maybe here lies the reason. Still I'd like to stress here that for me an Msc in Eco/Finance does not at all have the same value as an MBA - I believe employers have the same idean as me.

Money certainly plays a role regarding rankings, but I'm sure if a Ukrainian or Russian MBA program had an as high international standard as, let's say, the top US MBAs, money would not be the problem preventing the program from being ranked...

Besides that, you can't say positioning in the rankings is only about money. It does reflect a certain international quality standard. It just looked weird to me that not a single one of the Ukrainian and Russian MBAs is to be found.

But if you say MBA is not so common in those countries, maybe here lies the reason. Still I'd like to stress here that for me an Msc in Eco/Finance does not at all have the same value as an MBA - I believe employers have the same idean as me.
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Is there anyone here in this board who knows, which MBA programs in Germany have reputation internationally,

hi... trust you are doing well..
i understand u mentioned WHU and I have seen its mention in a lot of places, citing its program to be strong.
I plan to persue an MBA and have an offer from WHU. I want to persue a career in Management Consulting. how well known WHU for producing leaders in this space.
Do the top consulting firms hire there.do McKinsey and BCG hire their grads.i have been told that " Essentially WHU is considered the Porsche of business schools in Germany. Elite, very restrictive selection process for new students, too. "
i have also been told that " The MBA is a new kind of degree in Germany so the program may not have a long track record ".
Also, I do not speak German yet. so how are the job prospects for an Indian who is not so fluent in the language. of course i do intend taking the German language tuition as well.
i would appreciate if you could respond with any additional inputs about WHU.
thanks
Pavaanjeet
[email protected]

<blockquote>Is there anyone here in this board who knows, which MBA programs in Germany have reputation internationally, </blockquote>
hi... trust you are doing well..
i understand u mentioned WHU and I have seen its mention in a lot of places, citing its program to be strong.
I plan to persue an MBA and have an offer from WHU. I want to persue a career in Management Consulting. how well known WHU for producing leaders in this space.
Do the top consulting firms hire there.do McKinsey and BCG hire their grads.i have been told that " Essentially WHU is considered the Porsche of business schools in Germany. Elite, very restrictive selection process for new students, too. "
i have also been told that " The MBA is a new kind of degree in Germany so the program may not have a long track record ".
Also, I do not speak German yet. so how are the job prospects for an Indian who is not so fluent in the language. of course i do intend taking the German language tuition as well.
i would appreciate if you could respond with any additional inputs about WHU.
thanks
Pavaanjeet
[email protected]
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Post MBA

I made the quoted comments above in a private chat with Pavaanjeet and am happy to discuss my impressions in a public forum. The comments come from my experience with WHU.

Full Disclosure: I am participating in the FIND MBA board as an excercise to provide an illustration for a segment I am teaching of the course "What the CEO wants you to know" at BMI www.barcelonami.org One of the readings for the segment is www.wired.com/wired/archive/15.04/wired40_ceo.html?????? Click on Post MBA for more biographical info.

I made the quoted comments above in a private chat with Pavaanjeet and am happy to discuss my impressions in a public forum. The comments come from my experience with WHU.

Full Disclosure: I am participating in the FIND MBA board as an excercise to provide an illustration for a segment I am teaching of the course "What the CEO wants you to know" at BMI www.barcelonami.org One of the readings for the segment is www.wired.com/wired/archive/15.04/wired40_ceo.html?????? Click on Post MBA for more biographical info.
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ullas

Anybody can give some info regarding furtwangen MBA?

Anybody can give some info regarding furtwangen MBA?
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Martin_82

Anybody can give some info regarding furtwangen MBA?

I have no infos about that programme, but it seems really good and located in a very nice region in germany. Close to switzerland, austria and france.

<blockquote>Anybody can give some info regarding furtwangen MBA?</blockquote>
I have no infos about that programme, but it seems really good and located in a very nice region in germany. Close to switzerland, austria and france.
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