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jintian

There are pros and cons of being taught by foreign professors while doing an MBA/EMBA in China. The pros are that they teach you US MBA style material better than a Tsinghua EMBA would. For the cons, one must ask why one is doing an MBA/EMBA in China to begin with - if you plan to actually be in China after you graduate, knowledge is good, but connections are more important. If you need a government official to give you a license in Chongqing or Hubei, a foreign professor will be clueless on how that happens. If you ask an assistant dean from Tsinghua, a high rolling Tsinghua professor, a PRC government advisor/professor from Tsinghua, or any EMBA 40-50 year old classmate, you will get a good answer on how it can be done, and how much it will cost.

There are pros and cons of being taught by foreign professors while doing an MBA/EMBA in China. The pros are that they teach you US MBA style material better than a Tsinghua EMBA would. For the cons, one must ask why one is doing an MBA/EMBA in China to begin with - if you plan to actually be in China after you graduate, knowledge is good, but connections are more important. If you need a government official to give you a license in Chongqing or Hubei, a foreign professor will be clueless on how that happens. If you ask an assistant dean from Tsinghua, a high rolling Tsinghua professor, a PRC government advisor/professor from Tsinghua, or any EMBA 40-50 year old classmate, you will get a good answer on how it can be done, and how much it will cost.
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Ahyun

Hi your discussion has been very informative! I am considering getting an mba in china, but am wondering if most graduates from overseas are able to get a decent salary at a multinational company in china after graduation. I moved to the us from hong kong when i was little, so i can speak fluent english, cantonese, read/write chinese. Hopefully i will be fluent in mandarin in 2 years. I am not hoping for exact us salary after graduation, but i dont really want to work for 20000rmb/mo either. Any input? Thanks!

Hi your discussion has been very informative! I am considering getting an mba in china, but am wondering if most graduates from overseas are able to get a decent salary at a multinational company in china after graduation. I moved to the us from hong kong when i was little, so i can speak fluent english, cantonese, read/write chinese. Hopefully i will be fluent in mandarin in 2 years. I am not hoping for exact us salary after graduation, but i dont really want to work for 20000rmb/mo either. Any input? Thanks!
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bianca

20000 rmb/month is considered on the upper side average for international in China after a top IMBA (such as Tsinghua, Beida, CEIBS). It means that some people get more but more people get less...
Actually, to be honest, the few international people I know who have stayed in China following their MBA earn less than that.

This is one of the two main reasons why international students rarely stay in China (the other being language). If they do stay in China, many prefer to go work in HK, Singapore or (more rarely) Taiwan.

ps: The FT number for CEIBS salary is PPP adjusted, to find the real value, you need to divide the number by 3.8. When you do, you'll find that it's equivalent to about 18000 rmb / month.

20000 rmb/month is considered on the upper side average for international in China after a top IMBA (such as Tsinghua, Beida, CEIBS). It means that some people get more but more people get less...
Actually, to be honest, the few international people I know who have stayed in China following their MBA earn less than that.

This is one of the two main reasons why international students rarely stay in China (the other being language). If they do stay in China, many prefer to go work in HK, Singapore or (more rarely) Taiwan.

ps: The FT number for CEIBS salary is PPP adjusted, to find the real value, you need to divide the number by 3.8. When you do, you'll find that it's equivalent to about 18000 rmb / month.
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wangtao

Before averaging salaries - you need to state what position you are doing. If it is finance, and you are not a native speaker, you might be able to get a 20K to 40K job as long as you have value added (meaning most of you job is working with foreigners and home country). Consulting would be the same, except having special knowledge on an industry would be very helpful to justify a 20K to 40K+ salary. Again, you will be consulting to foreigners, or MNC firms. Aside from these two niches,you will not need to worry about sales, marketing, or operations since you don't speak Chinese. Business Development or Strategy is more likely the 20K a month job, unless you get a personal introduction to the Vice President or President who personally hires you - or it is a MNC that feels obligated to put you on a somewhat level pay to other foreigners in China. The key issue here is moving up - if you look Chinese and can get your Chinese fluent (writing like a native and mastering of tones) in 5-10 years in China, the 2 years at Tsinghua and 8 years work experience should get you up to a premium well paying job if you are focused in an industry. That's when the venture companies and Recruiters start offering 100,000K+ a month.

Before averaging salaries - you need to state what position you are doing. If it is finance, and you are not a native speaker, you might be able to get a 20K to 40K job as long as you have value added (meaning most of you job is working with foreigners and home country). Consulting would be the same, except having special knowledge on an industry would be very helpful to justify a 20K to 40K+ salary. Again, you will be consulting to foreigners, or MNC firms. Aside from these two niches,you will not need to worry about sales, marketing, or operations since you don't speak Chinese. Business Development or Strategy is more likely the 20K a month job, unless you get a personal introduction to the Vice President or President who personally hires you - or it is a MNC that feels obligated to put you on a somewhat level pay to other foreigners in China. The key issue here is moving up - if you look Chinese and can get your Chinese fluent (writing like a native and mastering of tones) in 5-10 years in China, the 2 years at Tsinghua and 8 years work experience should get you up to a premium well paying job if you are focused in an industry. That's when the venture companies and Recruiters start offering 100,000K+ a month.
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juanfchia

I see that this post is a few years old, but I was wondering what was your decision at the end, and what is your experience after going to school in China (if you went to school in China). I am applying for those 3 programs, I just got an interview for CEIBS, and I really wanna have a better understanding of the 3 schools if I was accepted to the 3 of them, and had to choose 1 of those programs. After you take the decision, you gotta live with it, so please answer to me because I really need more advice. Thank you so much.

I see that this post is a few years old, but I was wondering what was your decision at the end, and what is your experience after going to school in China (if you went to school in China). I am applying for those 3 programs, I just got an interview for CEIBS, and I really wanna have a better understanding of the 3 schools if I was accepted to the 3 of them, and had to choose 1 of those programs. After you take the decision, you gotta live with it, so please answer to me because I really need more advice. Thank you so much.
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