MBA student diversification


Bullis

I am looking for an MBA programme in the UK with a well balanced diversification of students from all over the world. Having said that, I mean that I do not want to participate in a programme that is dominated by 90% of all students coming from India or for example Nigeria.

So can anyone give me some advice about good programmes, with a well balanced mixture of students from all over the world (europe, america, asia, africa).

I am looking for an MBA programme in the UK with a well balanced diversification of students from all over the world. Having said that, I mean that I do not want to participate in a programme that is dominated by 90% of all students coming from India or for example Nigeria.

So can anyone give me some advice about good programmes, with a well balanced mixture of students from all over the world (europe, america, asia, africa).
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ezra

You'll find that many of the top schools in Europe have a decent diversity breakdown, although still somewhat weighted towards European students.

Example: Insead's student body is about 1/5 Asian, 14% North American, and 40% from Western Europe.

IE is similar: 1/5 from Asia, 15% from North America, 10% from the Middle East, about 1/3 from Europe.

LBS follows the same pattern, as does Oxford/Said.

If you go down a tier, some schools start showing a different (albeit not more diverse) breakdown. Cranfield, for example, only recruits about 3% from North America, but about 1/2 the student body is from Asia.

You'll find that many of the top schools in Europe have a decent diversity breakdown, although still somewhat weighted towards European students.

Example: Insead's student body is about 1/5 Asian, 14% North American, and 40% from Western Europe.

IE is similar: 1/5 from Asia, 15% from North America, 10% from the Middle East, about 1/3 from Europe.

LBS follows the same pattern, as does Oxford/Said.

If you go down a tier, some schools start showing a different (albeit not more diverse) breakdown. Cranfield, for example, only recruits about 3% from North America, but about 1/2 the student body is from Asia.
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Mamit

Can you brief me about your profile so that i can suggest you the appropriate MBA according to your eligibility

Can you brief me about your profile so that i can suggest you the appropriate MBA according to your eligibility
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Bullis

- fully qualified business lawyer
- 3 years of work experience in a big european law firm
- llm from England
- budget: must be under ? 30k in total (including living costs)
- interested in: since I'm a lawyer I am more interested in doing a broad and general program than a highly specialised one.
- I do not like London

- fully qualified business lawyer
- 3 years of work experience in a big european law firm
- llm from England
- budget: must be under ? 30k in total (including living costs)
- interested in: since I'm a lawyer I am more interested in doing a broad and general program than a highly specialised one.
- I do not like London
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Duncan

How about Lancaster, Strathclyde, Warwick, Edinburgh or Henley?

How about Lancaster, Strathclyde, Warwick, Edinburgh or Henley?
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Bullis

A lot of them are out of the budget, because 30k includes all (!) costs, what means living costs as well.

I calculate with approx. £10 -15k living costs and so I am looking for a program with tuition fees of less than £15k. Since my main business is beeing a lawyer, an MBA is "nice to have" in this branche, but does not really increase your salary that much that it would pay off to invest more than £30k for the degree.

So I would like to hear some opinions about the cheaper programs in general and about the student diversification of these programs in particular.

Thanks !

A lot of them are out of the budget, because 30k includes all (!) costs, what means living costs as well.

I calculate with approx. £10 -15k living costs and so I am looking for a program with tuition fees of less than £15k. Since my main business is beeing a lawyer, an MBA is "nice to have" in this branche, but does not really increase your salary that much that it would pay off to invest more than £30k for the degree.

So I would like to hear some opinions about the cheaper programs in general and about the student diversification of these programs in particular.

Thanks !
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Duncan

There is an inverse relationship between price and the various aspects of quality, including diversity. For under 17K euro there are few if any accredited MBAs in the UK (except maybe the MBA Strategy and Procurement Management at Birmingham). At that price, I recommend you look at Scotland: places like Edinburgh Business School, University of Glasgow Business School, Aberdeen University or the Napier MBA.

There's a great programme with AMBA accreditation in Paris at the Conservatoire National des Arts et Métiers.

There is an inverse relationship between price and the various aspects of quality, including diversity. For under 17K euro there are few if any accredited MBAs in the UK (except maybe the MBA Strategy and Procurement Management at Birmingham). At that price, I recommend you look at Scotland: places like Edinburgh Business School, University of Glasgow Business School, Aberdeen University or the Napier MBA.

There's a great programme with AMBA accreditation in Paris at the Conservatoire National des Arts et Métiers.
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Mamit

Try for Kent Business School. They take max 60 students into their MBA program and maintain diversity into their program. Its an accrediated program and they also offer little scholarship of upto GBP 5K.
Let me know in case you need any assistance and advice related to admission in Kent MBA

Try for Kent Business School. They take max 60 students into their MBA program and maintain diversity into their program. Its an accrediated program and they also offer little scholarship of upto GBP 5K.
Let me know in case you need any assistance and advice related to admission in Kent MBA
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Duncan

It's not *really* diverse. Take a look at the full-time students http://www.kent.ac.uk/kbs/documents/mba-participant-profile-book-2010-ebooklet.pdf who are mostly from India, Taiwan and Iran.

It's not *really* diverse. Take a look at the full-time students http://www.kent.ac.uk/kbs/documents/mba-participant-profile-book-2010-ebooklet.pdf who are mostly from India, Taiwan and Iran.
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Mamit

Thanks Duncan. But if you see most of the B-Schools in the UK, their maximum intake is from Middle East, South East Asia and Nigeria. You will find very few British or European Students into their FT program, for example you can take example of any B-School (i.e. MBS, Strathclyde, Aston etc).
With regards to Diversity i mean diversity in student background in terms of their industry and sector and not by origin. I believe Kent MBA is a good buy at the price they are offering.

Thanks Duncan. But if you see most of the B-Schools in the UK, their maximum intake is from Middle East, South East Asia and Nigeria. You will find very few British or European Students into their FT program, for example you can take example of any B-School (i.e. MBS, Strathclyde, Aston etc).
With regards to Diversity i mean diversity in student background in terms of their industry and sector and not by origin. I believe Kent MBA is a good buy at the price they are offering.
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Duncan

I think there's a difference between a majority from three regions and a majority from three *countries*.

I think domestic students do add something for those overseas students who want to find work in the country where they study. Schools like Bocconi, Cass, Cranfield, EM Lyon, IESE, Imperial, Leeds, Smurfit and Warwick have around 20% domestic students.

I think there's a difference between a majority from three regions and a majority from three *countries*.

I think domestic students do add something for those overseas students who want to find work in the country where they study. Schools like Bocconi, Cass, Cranfield, EM Lyon, IESE, Imperial, Leeds, Smurfit and Warwick have around 20% domestic students.
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Mamit

I think there's a difference between a majority from three regions and a majority from three *countries*.

I think domestic students do add something for those overseas students who want to find work in the country where they study. Schools like Bocconi, Cass, Cranfield, EM Lyon, IESE, Imperial, Leeds, Smurfit and Warwick have around 20% domestic students.


Yes i do agree with all the above schools except Leeds as i have been to Leeds several times and more than 35% students in Leeds are from India :) in their FT MBA program. Considering the profile of the candidate and his budget constrains, i dont think these universities will be suitable for him.

<blockquote>I think there's a difference between a majority from three regions and a majority from three *countries*.

I think domestic students do add something for those overseas students who want to find work in the country where they study. Schools like Bocconi, Cass, Cranfield, EM Lyon, IESE, Imperial, Leeds, Smurfit and Warwick have around 20% domestic students. </blockquote>

Yes i do agree with all the above schools except Leeds as i have been to Leeds several times and more than 35% students in Leeds are from India :) in their FT MBA program. Considering the profile of the candidate and his budget constrains, i dont think these universities will be suitable for him.
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Bullis

Thank you very much for your advice.

I will have to look deeper into this issues. So far especially Kent seems interesting.

However my dilemma is, that I am not really focussed on the MBA itself, but more on gaining general business knowledge in combination with international experience and the opportunity to bring my English up onto the next level. Especially for the last target my previous LLM experience tells me that, I should avoid programs with a lack of diversity and a high intake from asia and africa.

Any recommendations regarding other European countries like France or The Netherlands ? Presupposed that you
would consider them as appropriate for fostering my English abilities.... (what I doubt at the moment).

Thank you very much for your advice.

I will have to look deeper into this issues. So far especially Kent seems interesting.

However my dilemma is, that I am not really focussed on the MBA itself, but more on gaining general business knowledge in combination with international experience and the opportunity to bring my English up onto the next level. Especially for the last target my previous LLM experience tells me that, I should avoid programs with a lack of diversity and a high intake from asia and africa.

Any recommendations regarding other European countries like France or The Netherlands ? Presupposed that you
would consider them as appropriate for fostering my English abilities.... (what I doubt at the moment).
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Mamit

have a loot at this one its an FT ranked MBA in Italy, run by Bradford University (UK)
http://www.bradford.ac.uk/management/programmes/mba/perugiamba/ataglance/

have a loot at this one its an FT ranked MBA in Italy, run by Bradford University (UK)
http://www.bradford.ac.uk/management/programmes/mba/perugiamba/ataglance/
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gaju1869

Dear Bullis,
I suggest if you have budget constrain then wait for couple of years and do an MBA from a good university or else try for scholarship. Since you are LLM and if you get good GMAT score you may get 50% scholarship. Try for smurtif college in Dublin Ireland. it has diverse cohort and they award good scholarships for bright students.

Dear Bullis,
I suggest if you have budget constrain then wait for couple of years and do an MBA from a good university or else try for scholarship. Since you are LLM and if you get good GMAT score you may get 50% scholarship. Try for smurtif college in Dublin Ireland. it has diverse cohort and they award good scholarships for bright students.
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