Cranfield school of management vs. Trinity college Dublin


KD Pathak
I have offers from cranfield and trinity, the reason I’m leaning towards trinity is it’s global branding and also the fact that Ireland offers 2 years of work permit after graduating.

Cranfield however has better content coverage, moreover it also offers a 3 month internship.

Please guide me.
I have offers from cranfield and trinity, the reason I’m leaning towards trinity is it’s global branding and also the fact that Ireland offers 2 years of work permit after graduating.

Cranfield however has better content coverage, moreover it also offers a 3 month internship.

Please guide me.
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Duncan
What are your goals? Why only these two schools? Take a look at; Best schools for international students' placement http://www.find-mba.com/board/41143
What are your goals? Why only these two schools? Take a look at; Best schools for international students' placement http://www.find-mba.com/board/41143
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KD Pathak
Thank you for your response.

I wish to break into consulting after my MSc. Management. Moreover, I also wish to work outside of my country, and so Ireland makes more sense (given their liberal visa rule).

However, cranfield is a better option in terms of content (even though it doesn’t carry international branding like Trinity).

Which school would be a better option for someone looking to work in consulting abroad and even moving to different countries in the future?
Thank you for your response.

I wish to break into consulting after my MSc. Management. Moreover, I also wish to work outside of my country, and so Ireland makes more sense (given their liberal visa rule).

However, cranfield is a better option in terms of content (even though it doesn’t carry international branding like Trinity).

Which school would be a better option for someone looking to work in consulting abroad and even moving to different countries in the future?
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Duncan
Why not use the method I used on that page about the best MBA programmes and use the same approach to compare MSc programmes. Obviously the UK does require a work permit application, but if the school is better then you will be more likely to get a job offer and, with a job offer, the permit is easy.
Why not use the method I used on that page about the best MBA programmes and use the same approach to compare MSc programmes. Obviously the UK does require a work permit application, but if the school is better then you will be more likely to get a job offer and, with a job offer, the permit is easy.
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KD Pathak
I noticed that cranfield ranks quite well. However, can you please give me an insight into how good trinity’s business school is? Trinity is not ranked in the FT rankings, why is that so?
I noticed that cranfield ranks quite well. However, can you please give me an insight into how good trinity’s business school is? Trinity is not ranked in the FT rankings, why is that so?
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Duncan
Trinity College has not had a very serious commitment to building up its business school. Right now, of course, it is literally building a new site for the school but it is decades behind where Cranfield and UCD are. As far as I can see, MSc students use the University of Dublin's central careers services. In the business school itself, the alumni relations team does organise career development activities but, of course, that is very different from a specialised placement service.
Trinity College has not had a very serious commitment to building up its business school. Right now, of course, it is literally building a new site for the school but it is decades behind where Cranfield and UCD are. As far as I can see, MSc students use the University of Dublin's central careers services. In the business school itself, the alumni relations team does organise career development activities but, of course, that is very different from a specialised placement service.
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KD Pathak
And can you tell me if the MiM at kings college London would be a good option?
And can you tell me if the MiM at kings college London would be a good option?
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Duncan
I'm an alumnus of KCL, so I am a bit biased. It's a good school (as is Trinity) but Cranfield is head and shoulders above it. Assuming you don't speak another European language fluently, the UK and Ireland are the best places to focus. The top three schools for international mobility in those countries are LBS, UCD and Cranfield (http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/masters-in-management-2017). If you have a place at Cranfield, I would only swap it for a better school.
I'm an alumnus of KCL, so I am a bit biased. It's a good school (as is Trinity) but Cranfield is head and shoulders above it. Assuming you don't speak another European language fluently, the UK and Ireland are the best places to focus. The top three schools for international mobility in those countries are LBS, UCD and Cranfield (http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/masters-in-management-2017). If you have a place at Cranfield, I would only swap it for a better school.
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KD Pathak
Can you tell me if a MSc management from Cranfield School of Management be helpful when I look for jobs in North America (more specifically in Canada)?

I mean will cranfied bring me the required degree “recognition” in North America or will other schools do a better job at that?

Thanks!
Can you tell me if a MSc management from Cranfield School of Management be helpful when I look for jobs in North America (more specifically in Canada)?

I mean will cranfied bring me the required degree “recognition” in North America or will other schools do a better job at that?

Thanks!
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RobertoG83
Can you tell me if a MSc management from Cranfield School of Management be helpful when I look for jobs in North America (more specifically in Canada)?

I mean will cranfied bring me the required degree “recognition” in North America or will other schools do a better job at that?

Thanks!


Cranfield seems to have a good reputation in North America, and it's ranked #17 for International Mobility (MSc Management).
You can check where former students work and live using Linkedin, and see how many of them are where you'd like to go.
[quote]Can you tell me if a MSc management from Cranfield School of Management be helpful when I look for jobs in North America (more specifically in Canada)?

I mean will cranfied bring me the required degree “recognition” in North America or will other schools do a better job at that?

Thanks![/quote]

Cranfield seems to have a good reputation in North America, and it's ranked #17 for International Mobility (MSc Management).
You can check where former students work and live using Linkedin, and see how many of them are where you'd like to go.
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Duncan
If you want to work in Canada, I suspect a bad Canadian university would be better known than a great British university.
If you want to work in Canada, I suspect a bad Canadian university would be better known than a great British university.
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KD Pathak
If you want to work in Canada, I suspect a bad Canadian university would be better known than a great British university.


Does this mean, going to a British school will diminish my odds of working in Canada (or North America for that matter)?
[quote]If you want to work in Canada, I suspect a bad Canadian university would be better known than a great British university. [/quote]

Does this mean, going to a British school will diminish my odds of working in Canada (or North America for that matter)?
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George Pat...
Generally, it is best if you study in the country you want to end up working, preferably even the city you want to end up
The school will probably have more connections with local businesses and you can network where you want to work
Also, the visa or work permit may be easier if you study in the country and continue there
Generally, it is best if you study in the country you want to end up working, preferably even the city you want to end up
The school will probably have more connections with local businesses and you can network where you want to work
Also, the visa or work permit may be easier if you study in the country and continue there
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KD Pathak
Generally, it is best if you study in the country you want to end up working, preferably even the city you want to end up
The school will probably have more connections with local businesses and you can network where you want to work
Also, the visa or work permit may be easier if you study in the country and continue there


I see your point, however my question is, how do these “international mobility” rankings work? I mean, now that cranfield is ranked 17th globally, wouldn’t it have its students getting placed in countries outside of UK as well?
[quote]Generally, it is best if you study in the country you want to end up working, preferably even the city you want to end up
The school will probably have more connections with local businesses and you can network where you want to work
Also, the visa or work permit may be easier if you study in the country and continue there[/quote]

I see your point, however my question is, how do these “international mobility” rankings work? I mean, now that cranfield is ranked 17th globally, wouldn’t it have its students getting placed in countries outside of UK as well?
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Duncan
Hover your mouse over the column heading to see the definition. It is students using the degree to change country. Almost always, it will be people moving to the country of the school. Really, to work in Canada you should study there.
Hover your mouse over the column heading to see the definition. It is students using the degree to change country. Almost always, it will be people moving to the country of the school. Really, to work in Canada you should study there.
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KD Pathak
Hover your mouse over the column heading to see the definition. It is students using the degree to change country. Almost always, it will be people moving to the country of the school. Really, to work in Canada you should study there.


I see, well actually I could not get into the Canadian schools I applied to and so I decided to go to a good British school and then apply for jobs in Canada or elsewhere in North America.

Is there still a way where I can attend Cranfield and then get hired in Canada? Does this ever happen or is it an impossibility ?
[quote]Hover your mouse over the column heading to see the definition. It is students using the degree to change country. Almost always, it will be people moving to the country of the school. Really, to work in Canada you should study there. [/quote]

I see, well actually I could not get into the Canadian schools I applied to and so I decided to go to a good British school and then apply for jobs in Canada or elsewhere in North America.

Is there still a way where I can attend Cranfield and then get hired in Canada? Does this ever happen or is it an impossibility ?
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Duncan
It seems terribly unlikely and, as has been said, the work permit you get after studying in Canada could be a huge advantage. If you can be admitted to Cranfield, then surely a greatly inferior Canadian school will accept you.
It seems terribly unlikely and, as has been said, the work permit you get after studying in Canada could be a huge advantage. If you can be admitted to Cranfield, then surely a greatly inferior Canadian school will accept you.
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KD Pathak
It seems terribly unlikely and, as has been said, the work permit you get after studying in Canada could be a huge advantage. If you can be admitted to Cranfield, then surely a greatly inferior Canadian school will accept you.


Can you please suggest a few such Canadian schools?
[quote]It seems terribly unlikely and, as has been said, the work permit you get after studying in Canada could be a huge advantage. If you can be admitted to Cranfield, then surely a greatly inferior Canadian school will accept you. [/quote]

Can you please suggest a few such Canadian schools?
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Duncan
Try searching the board. Without really know your profile as a candidate and your career goals, I would suggest the schools right below the ones you were rejected by: http://www.eduniversal-ranking.com/business-school-university-ranking-in-canada.html
Try searching the board. Without really know your profile as a candidate and your career goals, I would suggest the schools right below the ones you were rejected by: http://www.eduniversal-ranking.com/business-school-university-ranking-in-canada.html
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KD Pathak
Try searching the board. Without really know your profile as a candidate and your career goals, I would suggest the schools right below the ones you were rejected by: http://www.eduniversal-ranking.com/business-school-university-ranking-in-canada.html[/quote]

Thank you for your responses, I checked the list you posted in your reply above, the main problem with me is that I have a 3 year degree and which makes me ineligible to apply to majority of the Canadian schools.

Can you please suggest ways through which I can apply for jobs in North America once I graduate from cranfield? I wish to get into management consulting or in corporate strategy/business development at a Tech company

[Edited by KD Pathak on Mar 20, 2018]

[quote]Try searching the board. Without really know your profile as a candidate and your career goals, I would suggest the schools right below the ones you were rejected by: http://www.eduniversal-ranking.com/business-school-university-ranking-in-canada.html[/quote]

Thank you for your responses, I checked the list you posted in your reply above, the main problem with me is that I have a 3 year degree and which makes me ineligible to apply to majority of the Canadian schools.

Can you please suggest ways through which I can apply for jobs in North America once I graduate from cranfield? I wish to get into management consulting or in corporate strategy/business development at a Tech company
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