wouldn’t recommend to do MBA at the University of Liverpool (the UK)


BenS
Wouldn’t recommend to do the MBA at the University of Liverpool.
Leaders of the program are women who have been sitting for ages on their roles and don’t want to provide any help for the students.
Everything is based only on personal subjective preferences,which means that there is no objective approach.
One of the leaders (who is in chatge for supply chain procurement modules) wrote in her article: "international students are competitors for us , basically we teach the competitors"!!!
It’s completely hypocritical to use international students only for the sake of replenishing the university budget, consumer attitude towards international students.
Also the atmosphere among the students is very negative. Waste of time and money (and nerves).
Wouldn’t recommend to do the MBA at the University of Liverpool.
Leaders of the program are women who have been sitting for ages on their roles and don’t want to provide any help for the students.
Everything is based only on personal subjective preferences,which means that there is no objective approach.
One of the leaders (who is in chatge for supply chain procurement modules) wrote in her article: "international students are competitors for us , basically we teach the competitors"!!!
It’s completely hypocritical to use international students only for the sake of replenishing the university budget, consumer attitude towards international students.
Also the atmosphere among the students is very negative. Waste of time and money (and nerves).
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Razors Edg...

It’s completely hypocritical to use international students only for the sake of replenishing the university budget, consumer attitude towards international students.

Well, it is the international students who basically bankroll a lot of these universities, especially in the UK. That's how it has been for a long time: students from abroad basically throw money at the UK schools for the recognition of having a UK degree.

I think that for the top schools it's definitely worth it, because you're paying a premium for investing in the network and other resources that these schools provide. But for lesser-known schools it can be a bit about managing expectations for students.
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It’s completely hypocritical to use international students only for the sake of replenishing the university budget, consumer attitude towards international students.[/quote]
Well, it is the international students who basically bankroll a lot of these universities, especially in the UK. That's how it has been for a long time: students from abroad basically throw money at the UK schools for the recognition of having a UK degree.

I think that for the top schools it's definitely worth it, because you're paying a premium for investing in the network and other resources that these schools provide. But for lesser-known schools it can be a bit about managing expectations for students.
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BenS

It’s completely hypocritical to use international students only for the sake of replenishing the university budget, consumer attitude towards international students.

Well, it is the international students who basically bankroll a lot of these universities, especially in the UK. That's how it has been for a long time: students from abroad basically throw money at the UK schools for the recognition of having a UK degree.

I think that for the top schools it's definitely worth it, because you're paying a premium for investing in the network and other resources that these schools provide. But for lesser-known schools it can be a bit about managing expectations for students.


The thing is that there is NO NETWORKING at all. That’s the exact point.
When it comes to international students “who basically bankroll a lot pf that uni”: you didn’t understand my previous text. I meant, that university and module leaders should care abt international students (who is investing a lot!), but they don’t!
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It’s completely hypocritical to use international students only for the sake of replenishing the university budget, consumer attitude towards international students.[/quote]
Well, it is the international students who basically bankroll a lot of these universities, especially in the UK. That's how it has been for a long time: students from abroad basically throw money at the UK schools for the recognition of having a UK degree.

I think that for the top schools it's definitely worth it, because you're paying a premium for investing in the network and other resources that these schools provide. But for lesser-known schools it can be a bit about managing expectations for students. [/quote]

The thing is that there is NO NETWORKING at all. That’s the exact point.
When it comes to international students “who basically bankroll a lot pf that uni”: you didn’t understand my previous text. I meant, that university and module leaders should care abt international students (who is investing a lot!), but they don’t!
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BenS

It’s completely hypocritical to use international students only for the sake of replenishing the university budget, consumer attitude towards international students.

Well, it is the international students who basically bankroll a lot of these universities, especially in the UK. That's how it has been for a long time: students from abroad basically throw money at the UK schools for the recognition of having a UK degree.

I think that for the top schools it's definitely worth it, because you're paying a premium for investing in the network and other resources that these schools provide. But for lesser-known schools it can be a bit about managing expectations for students.


I know what I’m talking about because has own experience. It doesn’t worth a penny.
No networking (because most of students without work and life experience, have very narrow mindset).
Module leaders are not prepared at all, very weak and not professionals.
Program leaders women who sit ages on their roles , the uni should change all staff if they want to succeed.
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It’s completely hypocritical to use international students only for the sake of replenishing the university budget, consumer attitude towards international students.[/quote]
Well, it is the international students who basically bankroll a lot of these universities, especially in the UK. That's how it has been for a long time: students from abroad basically throw money at the UK schools for the recognition of having a UK degree.

I think that for the top schools it's definitely worth it, because you're paying a premium for investing in the network and other resources that these schools provide. But for lesser-known schools it can be a bit about managing expectations for students. [/quote]

I know what I’m talking about because has own experience. It doesn’t worth a penny.
No networking (because most of students without work and life experience, have very narrow mindset).
Module leaders are not prepared at all, very weak and not professionals.
Program leaders women who sit ages on their roles , the uni should change all staff if they want to succeed.
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George Pat...
Universities publish the number of international students that you should expect. So a person that wants a more local or a more global network, can choose universities that are more or less internationally diverse accordingly
Likewise, they usually also publish average work experience and other statistics

If they lied and you were expecting a different cohort, that is reason to complain. If your classmates where as advertised, then you should have researched it more
Universities publish the number of international students that you should expect. So a person that wants a more local or a more global network, can choose universities that are more or less internationally diverse accordingly
Likewise, they usually also publish average work experience and other statistics

If they lied and you were expecting a different cohort, that is reason to complain. If your classmates where as advertised, then you should have researched it more
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Duncan
I stopped listening when you repeated the complaint that the programme leaders are women. Honestly, if you attend a freshers' MBA at a school without AMBA or EQUIS accreditation this is exactly what you can expect.
I stopped listening when you repeated the complaint that the programme leaders are women. Honestly, if you attend a freshers' MBA at a school without AMBA or EQUIS accreditation this is exactly what you can expect.
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mba hipste...
Seriously, the fact that the leaders are women shouldn't make any difference.

No networking (because most of students without work and life experience, have very narrow mindset).

Networking means more than just talking to your fellow students. It means attending events and setting up meetings. Making connections. Nobody is going to do this for you.

I'm not defending this school—I think there are much better and well organized schools in the UK—but I think you may have had unrealistic expectations going into this program.

I always suggest that applicants look at schools that require the GMAT, and which are ideally ranked in the FT. That way, you can stack your expectations against real outcomes: for instance, by looking at the international mobility score you can see how many international students were able to make country shifts after graduation.

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Seriously, the fact that the leaders are women shouldn't make any difference.

[quote]No networking (because most of students without work and life experience, have very narrow mindset). [/quote]
Networking means more than just talking to your fellow students. It means attending events and setting up meetings. Making connections. Nobody is going to do this for you.

I'm not defending this school—I think there are much better and well organized schools in the UK—but I think you may have had unrealistic expectations going into this program.

I always suggest that applicants look at schools that require the GMAT, and which are ideally ranked in the FT. That way, you can stack your expectations against real outcomes: for instance, by looking at the international mobility score you can see how many international students were able to make country shifts after graduation.
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BenS
Thank you very much for all comments and suggestions (recommendations), really appreciate that. Yeah, it could
be better to choose stronger business school, that’s right. The decision was a mistake- true.
I would like to emphasize that I’m sharing my experience and opinion. All my words are quite adequate, we are all adults and everyone has the right to freedom of speech. And “to listen or not to listen” is a personal right of each individual, we are equal in this forum.
Thank you.
Thank you very much for all comments and suggestions (recommendations), really appreciate that. Yeah, it could
be better to choose stronger business school, that’s right. The decision was a mistake- true.
I would like to emphasize that I’m sharing my experience and opinion. All my words are quite adequate, we are all adults and everyone has the right to freedom of speech. And “to listen or not to listen” is a personal right of each individual, we are equal in this forum.
Thank you.
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donho199
I think the real problem is that the people at the top are old women. They make your life even more miserable. Poor you, what can I say, choose wisely.
I think the real problem is that the people at the top are old women. They make your life even more miserable. Poor you, what can I say, choose wisely.
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mba hipste...
Thank you very much for all comments and suggestions (recommendations), really appreciate that. Yeah, it could
be better to choose stronger business school, that’s right. The decision was a mistake- true.
I would like to emphasize that I’m sharing my experience and opinion. All my words are quite adequate, we are all adults and everyone has the right to freedom of speech. And “to listen or not to listen” is a personal right of each individual, we are equal in this forum.
Thank you.

Yes, true. But you have to understand that by singling out women, your comments are interpreted as many on this board as tinged with misogyny, which hurts your arguments. We all have the right to listen and to speak, but in a public forum like this, your words are open to interpretation.
[quote]Thank you very much for all comments and suggestions (recommendations), really appreciate that. Yeah, it could
be better to choose stronger business school, that’s right. The decision was a mistake- true.
I would like to emphasize that I’m sharing my experience and opinion. All my words are quite adequate, we are all adults and everyone has the right to freedom of speech. And “to listen or not to listen” is a personal right of each individual, we are equal in this forum.
Thank you.[/quote]
Yes, true. But you have to understand that by singling out women, your comments are interpreted as many on this board as tinged with misogyny, which hurts your arguments. We all have the right to listen and to speak, but in a public forum like this, your words are open to interpretation.
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