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Duncan

You can read the admissions requirements and recruiters on the websites of the different schools. MSc in international business is aimed at students returning to their home country.

You can read the admissions requirements and recruiters on the websites of the different schools. MSc in international business is aimed at students returning to their home country.
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as i can't afford MBA's tuition fees from one of the best schools plus cost of living

i already applied for Msc in marketing in the following schools:
-cass
-strathclyde
-lancaster
-bath

could u rank these schools for me according to their marketing department's power?
also what about job opportunities for students graduated from Msc in marketing comparing with those graduated from Msc in management (and according to my profile)?

thks duncan!!

as i can't afford MBA's tuition fees from one of the best schools plus cost of living

i already applied for Msc in marketing in the following schools:
-cass
-strathclyde
-lancaster
-bath

could u rank these schools for me according to their marketing department's power?
also what about job opportunities for students graduated from Msc in marketing comparing with those graduated from Msc in management (and according to my profile)?

thks duncan!!
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Duncan

Cass has an MSc in marketing? That is a surprise; I thought it only had a MSC in management with some marketing electives. Lancaster and Strathclyde are certainly the best. Take a look at http://www.best-masters.com/ranking-master-marketing-in-western-europe.html

Cass has an MSc in marketing? That is a surprise; I thought it only had a MSC in management with some marketing electives. Lancaster and Strathclyde are certainly the best. Take a look at http://www.best-masters.com/ranking-master-marketing-in-western-europe.html
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do u think that Msc in marketing from one of those schools will enhance my career path ??and do u think that it will be easy for me (according to my cv) to find a good job in any multinational company??

[Edited by shownmichel on Jan 15, 2015]

do u think that Msc in marketing from one of those schools will enhance my career path ??and do u think that it will be easy for me (according to my cv) to find a good job in any multinational company??
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Duncan

Yes. A good qualification will help.

No. It's not easy. It's a lot of hard work to find a good job.

[Edited by Duncan on Jan 18, 2015]

Yes. A good qualification will help.

No. It's not easy. It's a lot of hard work to find a good job.
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what is the situation of market labor for international students now in UK?? is it still complex?? do u think during the next year it will look up?

what is the situation of market labor for international students now in UK?? is it still complex?? do u think during the next year it will look up?
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Duncan

I think the realities of the labour market are more or less the same. I don't see any prospects of a major change in the objective situation. However, outcomes are improving because schools and students are working better together. Because large businesses are limited by quotas of how many people they can hire, traditional 'milkround' techniques are not so effective at placing non-EU MBAs into roles. They need to hunt for work in the same way as European professionals now: by proactive approaches, networking, pitching in projects and consulting opportunities and generally using more personalised ways of approaching employers with win-win solutions. That is producing improved outcomes. I think Oxford, Cambridge, Warwick, Durham and Edinburgh are doing well and, if the recent FT MiM ranking is a guide, it looks like Strathclyde and Bradford are struggling. I think the shift is especially difficult for students from India, where placement works so very differently, and where it's so hard to strike the balance right between being too retiring and being too forceful when networking.

I think the realities of the labour market are more or less the same. I don't see any prospects of a major change in the objective situation. However, outcomes are improving because schools and students are working better together. Because large businesses are limited by quotas of how many people they can hire, traditional 'milkround' techniques are not so effective at placing non-EU MBAs into roles. They need to hunt for work in the same way as European professionals now: by proactive approaches, networking, pitching in projects and consulting opportunities and generally using more personalised ways of approaching employers with win-win solutions. That is producing improved outcomes. I think Oxford, Cambridge, Warwick, Durham and Edinburgh are doing well and, if the recent FT MiM ranking is a guide, it looks like Strathclyde and Bradford are struggling. I think the shift is especially difficult for students from India, where placement works so very differently, and where it's so hard to strike the balance right between being too retiring and being too forceful when networking.
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4 days ago, I was talking with a friend from India in Facebook ,he told me that Indians believe that the change in immigration rules in uk was made specially for Indians !!!@@

He said that it is known that these restrictions for all international students ,but it really directed to Indians! !!!

What's ur opinion Duncan? ????

4 days ago, I was talking with a friend from India in Facebook ,he told me that Indians believe that the change in immigration rules in uk was made specially for Indians !!!@@

He said that it is known that these restrictions for all international students ,but it really directed to Indians! !!!

What's ur opinion Duncan? ????
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Duncan

That is a mistaken belief.

That is a mistaken belief.
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dear duncan,

now for strathclyde business school after a lot of negotiation with them and i told them that i can't afford the tuition fees plus cost of living for MBA programm , so they send me this message:

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Hi Osama,

Thanks for this - I think we'll stick with either the MSc in Marketing or the MSc in Business and Management programme,

as these would appear to be most suited to your background and qualifications.

Which one you choose depends upon which route you want to go down following graduation,

if you're looking for an all round management degree then I would go for the MSc in Business Management.

However, if you want to specialise in Marketing, then the MSc is Marketing is the one for you.

As soon as we hear from you, we'll issue an offer for your chosen course."

that means that they will issue MSc in marketing or MSc in Business and Management for me ,and this depends on my choice

so plz plz i need ur help for that

what do u think more suitable for me (according to my cv which i mentioned to u above) :
MSc in Marketing or the MSc in Business and Management programme ???

which program that has more employability and makes me more attractive for big companies???

[Edited by shownmichel on Jan 21, 2015]

dear duncan,

now for strathclyde business school after a lot of negotiation with them and i told them that i can't afford the tuition fees plus cost of living for MBA programm , so they send me this message:

"
Hi Osama,

Thanks for this - I think we'll stick with either the MSc in Marketing or the MSc in Business and Management programme,

as these would appear to be most suited to your background and qualifications.

Which one you choose depends upon which route you want to go down following graduation,

if you're looking for an all round management degree then I would go for the MSc in Business Management.

However, if you want to specialise in Marketing, then the MSc is Marketing is the one for you.

As soon as we hear from you, we'll issue an offer for your chosen course."

that means that they will issue MSc in marketing or MSc in Business and Management for me ,and this depends on my choice

so plz plz i need ur help for that

what do u think more suitable for me (according to my cv which i mentioned to u above) :
MSc in Marketing or the MSc in Business and Management programme ???

which program that has more employability and makes me more attractive for big companies???
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Mamit

Hi, I have just gone through the entire discussion you have had with Duncan and I certainly agree with Duncan that doing an MBA would have been a better option for you. But I do understand your financial constraints. As far as MSc in Marketing is concerned I believe Strathclyde has strong industrial links and alumni network in the sector. You can check out the department's page on linkedin which will help you decide better. Please follow the link http://www.strath.ac.uk/marketing/ouralumni/

Hi, I have just gone through the entire discussion you have had with Duncan and I certainly agree with Duncan that doing an MBA would have been a better option for you. But I do understand your financial constraints. As far as MSc in Marketing is concerned I believe Strathclyde has strong industrial links and alumni network in the sector. You can check out the department's page on linkedin which will help you decide better. Please follow the link http://www.strath.ac.uk/marketing/ouralumni/
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Duncan

I would recommend the MBM over the MSc in marketing because you don't have a degree in business already. The MBM has an useful MBA pathway, and is more flexible. You could take electives in marketing and do a marketing project at the end of the programme.

I would recommend the MBM over the MSc in marketing because you don't have a degree in business already. The MBM has an useful MBA pathway, and is more flexible. You could take electives in marketing and do a marketing project at the end of the programme.
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thanks for u all

thanks for u all
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i already sent the deposit for strathclyde business school for Msc in business and management but i have a question: now i am 32 years old and after finishing the course i will be 33 , i know that MBA is familiar for candidates with that age ,so i am wondering is to graduate from msc in business and management with 33 years old can affect my opportunities to work in big firms(i want u to answer this question from the employers side) or the master with my experience will be appreciated from them???or may be this will affect my expected salary after graduation only???

[Edited by shownmichel on Feb 11, 2015]

i already sent the deposit for strathclyde business school for Msc in business and management but i have a question: now i am 32 years old and after finishing the course i will be 33 , i know that MBA is familiar for candidates with that age ,so i am wondering is to graduate from msc in business and management with 33 years old can affect my opportunities to work in big firms(i want u to answer this question from the employers side) or the master with my experience will be appreciated from them???or may be this will affect my expected salary after graduation only???
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Duncan

Yes, I think it's reasonable to assume that your salary will be closer to that of other MSc students than to that of MBA students.

Yes, I think it's reasonable to assume that your salary will be closer to that of other MSc students than to that of MBA students.
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by the way ,

for the employment field in FT ranking , which number refer to the percentage of students were in employment three months after graduation ??? the outside number or the inside one???i am so confused !!!!

by the way ,

for the employment field in FT ranking , which number refer to the percentage of students were in employment three months after graduation ??? the outside number or the inside one???i am so confused !!!!
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Duncan

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