Best MSc & MiM degrees for international students' placement


ziyad30

Hi Duncan,
Given that the economic condition in Germany is good and since there is no tution fees for MIM at TUM School of Management, wouldn't it be a good choice for international students in these uncertain times?

[Edited by ziyad30 on May 09, 2020]

Hi Duncan,<div><br></div><div>Given that the economic condition in Germany is good and since there is no tution fees for MIM at TUM School of Management, wouldn't it be a good choice for international students in these uncertain times?</div>
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Duncan

It's a good choice for a MiM, but not from the perspective of international students' placement. Most international students cannot work in in German. 

It's a good choice for a MiM, but not from the perspective of international students' placement. Most international students cannot work in in German.&nbsp;
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ziyad30

It's a good choice for a MiM, but not from the perspective of international students' placement. Most international students cannot work in in German. 

I was under the impression that there is a shortage of labour in Germany and if international students do speak German, then there are plenty of opportunities. Did I miscalculate?

[quote]It's a good choice for a MiM, but not from the perspective of international students' placement. Most international students cannot work in in German.&nbsp; [/quote]<div><br></div><div>I was under the impression that there is a shortage of labour in Germany and if international students do speak German, then there are plenty of opportunities. Did I miscalculate?</div>
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Duncan

There is a shortage of labour in Germany. If students can write and speak German fluently, then there is work. However, most international students do not master German on English-language degrees. They improve their English.

There is a shortage of labour in Germany. If students can write and speak German fluently, then there is work. However, most international students do not master German on English-language degrees. They improve their English.
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Duncan

I have updated the post at the top of this thread with data from the 2020 ranking.

I have updated the post at the top of this thread with data from the 2020 ranking.
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Razors Edg...

A great resource, thanks Duncan! 

The schools toward the bottom of this list are quite interesting - Antwerp Management School, Maastricht University, some of the Spanish schools. TCD as well, probably a good choice for an English-speaking student who can't get into one of the better UK schools. 

A great resource, thanks Duncan!&nbsp;<br><br>The schools toward the bottom of this list are quite interesting - Antwerp Management School, Maastricht University, some of the Spanish schools. TCD as well, probably a good choice for an English-speaking student who can't get into one of the better UK schools.&nbsp;
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Hi Duncan. I recently came across this page and thought you might be able to help me with a small query that I have. 

I have been accepted into HHL and Emlyon, both in the MiM programs. I am looking to opt for finance-related electives and make a career in the field, but I haven't decided on anything which is why if plan on pursuing 2-3 internships in Banking, consulting, and even corporate finance roles based on how my interests shape up in the future. I speak both French and German at a beginner level, but I am 100% committed to learning the language wherever I go for the next 2-3 years. I plan on working in the country I do my post-graduation from but have not decided yet if I want to come back to India after 5-6 years or not. I reckon the bigger brand of Emlyon across Europe and even Asia is a better bet than HHL considering I might come back to India after a few years of work. 

I have also previously interned in France during my undergrad and did a semester exchange in Germany, so am familiar with the work/study culture of both places. 

Which one do you think is a safer bet considering the uncertain times that we are living in right now? 

Hi Duncan. I recently came across this page and thought you might be able to help me with a small query that I have.&nbsp;<br><br>I have been accepted into HHL and Emlyon, both in the MiM programs. I am looking to opt for finance-related electives and make a career in the field, but I haven't decided on anything which is why if plan on pursuing 2-3 internships in Banking, consulting, and even corporate finance roles based on how my interests shape up in the future. I speak both French and German at a beginner level, but I am 100% committed to learning the language wherever I go for the next 2-3 years. I plan on working in the country I do my post-graduation from but have not decided yet if I want to come back to India after 5-6 years or not. I reckon the bigger brand of Emlyon across Europe and even Asia is a better bet than HHL considering I might come back to India after a few years of work.&nbsp;<br><br>I have also previously interned in France during my undergrad and did a semester exchange in Germany, so am familiar with the work/study culture of both places.&nbsp;<br><br>Which one do you think is a safer bet considering the uncertain times that we are living in right now?&nbsp;
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Duncan

Why not take the EMLyon MiF?

Why not take the EMLyon MiF?
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MiF is a shorter program and I wanted a program that is extensive enough that I can network well in the given place and also brush up on my language. MiM will also give me the opportunity to take up a few more additional electives related to strategy, and overall I am inclined towards programs that are 2/3 years long as I want to study first-year general management core courses as well. 

Considering all this do you think Emlyon is the better choice, or should I stick with HHL?

[Edited by shikhar.gl96 on Mar 03, 2021]

MiF is a shorter program and I wanted a program that is extensive enough that I can network well in the given place and also brush up on my language. MiM will also give me the opportunity to take up a few more additional electives related to strategy, and overall I am inclined towards programs that are 2/3 years long as I want to study first-year general management core courses as well.&nbsp;<br><br>Considering all this do you think Emlyon is the better choice, or should I stick with HHL?
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StuartHE

Why not take a one year language course and then a one year MiF in the target language? 

Why not take a one year language course and then a one year MiF in the target language?&nbsp;
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Yeah that could be a good option, but that rules out HHL straight away as the program available is only 2 years. If what you suggested is viable in my case would you recommend that over my current selection? i.e. Emlyon over HHL?

[Edited by shikhar.gl96 on Mar 03, 2021]

Yeah that could be a good option, but that rules out HHL straight away as the program available is only 2 years. If what you suggested is viable in my case would you recommend that over my current selection? i.e. Emlyon over HHL?<br>
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StuartHE

HHL is a great choice for people who already speak German, and want to develop their skills in English, or who don't want to work in Germany. But if you want to work in Germany, and don't speak German at a high level, then HHL is a very risky choice. You should use the DAAD website. Learn German and then take an MSc taught in German to then develop the functional vocabulary and more skills at working with Germans. 

HHL is a great choice for people who already speak German, and want to develop their skills in English, or who don't want to work in Germany. But if you want to work in Germany, and don't speak German at a high level, then HHL is a very risky choice. You should use the DAAD website. Learn German and then take an MSc taught in German to then develop the functional vocabulary and more skills at working with Germans.&nbsp;
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People who dont want to work in Germany? Arent the max number of people working in Germany after HHL? Atleast thats what I know, please correct me if I am wrong. I thought HHL is a good place for people who want to stay in Germany. 

People who dont want to work in Germany? Arent the max number of people working in Germany after HHL? Atleast thats what I know, please correct me if I am wrong. I thought HHL is a good place for people who want to stay in Germany.&nbsp;
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Duncan

If you want to work in Germany, learn German. 

If you want to work in Germany, learn German.&nbsp;
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I am willing to learn both the languages and as I have half a year to start the program, I am looking to enroll in an intensive language program right after I make a decision. Considering all these do you have an outright recommendation out of emlyon and HHL or if the difference is not outright and more intricate, would you give either one of these an edge while selecting one out of the two?

I am willing to learn both the languages and as I have half a year to start the program, I am looking to enroll in an intensive language program right after I make a decision. Considering all these do you have an outright recommendation out of emlyon and HHL or if the difference is not outright and more intricate, would you give either one of these an edge while selecting one out of the two?
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fefer

Hi Duncan, 
I'm Brazilian (with portuguese citizenship), 24 y/o and I just graduated in Business Administration in a good university in Brasil. 
Portuguese is my native language and I speak fluently spanish and english. 
Is the EADA MSc in Finance a good option for me? I also thought about MScs in France and Portugal. Which country would be the best for me? 
Thank you in advance!

Hi Duncan,&nbsp;<br>I'm Brazilian (with portuguese citizenship), 24 y/o and I just graduated in Business Administration in a good university in Brasil.&nbsp;<br>Portuguese is my native language and I speak fluently spanish and english.&nbsp;<br>Is the EADA MSc in Finance a good option for me? I also thought about MScs in France and Portugal. Which country would be the best for me?&nbsp;<br>Thank you in advance!
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StuartHE

If you want advice, start with your personal and professional goals.

If you want advice, start with your personal and professional goals.
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