MBA Europe


desde
Hello,

I'm french but i'm working in Italy. I would like to apply for MBA (4 years work-experience) for some B School.

What do you think about EDHEC (France)/MIP (Italy) /WHU (Germany)...I think they are not the TOP50 but anyway excellent business school. Thank you for any suggestion!

Cheers
Hello,

I'm french but i'm working in Italy. I would like to apply for MBA (4 years work-experience) for some B School.

What do you think about EDHEC (France)/MIP (Italy) /WHU (Germany)...I think they are not the TOP50 but anyway excellent business school. Thank you for any suggestion!

Cheers
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Duncan
What are your goals? Which country do you want to focus on? What GMAT score do you expert/have?
What are your goals? Which country do you want to focus on? What GMAT score do you expert/have?
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desde
Hi duncan,

my goals are getting a corporate career in Europe (France, Switzerland, Germany, UK) and still I do not take my gmat (early Sept.)

Thanks,
desde

PS I would like to apply for intakes of first semester 2013
Hi duncan,

my goals are getting a corporate career in Europe (France, Switzerland, Germany, UK) and still I do not take my gmat (early Sept.)

Thanks,
desde

PS I would like to apply for intakes of first semester 2013
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Duncan
What's your nationality? What sort of 'corporate' career do you want? There are very few good degree programmes that recruit in the February semester in Europe, and those that do are highly competitive (IMD, Insead, HEC, Ashridge, WHU).

Generally, I think you need a much clearer vision and, if you have not taken your GMAT yet, probably aim for entry this time next year.

Duncan.
What's your nationality? What sort of 'corporate' career do you want? There are very few good degree programmes that recruit in the February semester in Europe, and those that do are highly competitive (IMD, Insead, HEC, Ashridge, WHU).

Generally, I think you need a much clearer vision and, if you have not taken your GMAT yet, probably aim for entry this time next year.

Duncan.
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desde
I am french.

Do you think that WHU is a good b-school?
I had a great first impression for your website and program.

I want to focus on consumer goods industry (Nestlé, P&G) or also in energy industries.

The Ashridge MBA starts in Sept.
http://www.ashridge.org.uk/Website/Content.nsf/wDEG/Ashridge+MBA+-+MBA+Programme?opendocument
I am french.

Do you think that WHU is a good b-school?
I had a great first impression for your website and program.

I want to focus on consumer goods industry (Nestlé, P&G) or also in energy industries.

The Ashridge MBA starts in Sept.
http://www.ashridge.org.uk/Website/Content.nsf/wDEG/Ashridge+MBA+-+MBA+Programme?opendocument


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Duncan
The Ashridge MBA now recruits every semester. Ask them.

WHU's a great school, but their MBA is still quite new. Generally, the MBA market is more boyant in France and I suggest you focus there.

Energy is an easier market to get into than consumer goods, especially if you're French (sorry, I forgot that you'd already mentioned this). For EDF, Total, Schlumberger, GDF etc then HEC, INSEAD and ESSEC are great choices.

In Germany, consumer goods are stronger MBA hirers than energy. Insead, WHU, IE and Mannheim are the strong MBA programmes for energy or FMCG in Germany.
The Ashridge MBA now recruits every semester. Ask them.

WHU's a great school, but their MBA is still quite new. Generally, the MBA market is more boyant in France and I suggest you focus there.

Energy is an easier market to get into than consumer goods, especially if you're French (sorry, I forgot that you'd already mentioned this). For EDF, Total, Schlumberger, GDF etc then HEC, INSEAD and ESSEC are great choices.

In Germany, consumer goods are stronger MBA hirers than energy. Insead, WHU, IE and Mannheim are the strong MBA programmes for energy or FMCG in Germany.
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desde
Thanks Duncan. And what do you think about MIP?

I'm working in Italy (Veneto) and I could extend my period in Italy. I have a colleague engineer and he told me well about that School.
Thanks Duncan. And what do you think about MIP?

I'm working in Italy (Veneto) and I could extend my period in Italy. I have a colleague engineer and he told me well about that School.

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Duncan
MIP's okay if you want to stay in Italy, but it doesn't fit with the countries you mentioned as your target (maybe Italian-speaking Switzerland).
MIP's okay if you want to stay in Italy, but it doesn't fit with the countries you mentioned as your target (maybe Italian-speaking Switzerland).
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srkian
Hello Mr Duncan,
I am brought up in India and has completed graduation with score of 3.6 , i also had done two year MBA with score of 3.35 and now working since one year but still i want to do one year MBA from some globaly reputed UK universities.I want to boost up my career with one year management program and get into some global companies with good profile and money.My GMAT score is 670 and IELTS is 7.Please guide me which univ. i should apply in UK & how much is the possibilities for me to get into those universities.Is there any chance to get into London School of Business or any other equivalent B-school in UK which is comfortable with one year work experiance applicants.
Hello Mr Duncan,
I am brought up in India and has completed graduation with score of 3.6 , i also had done two year MBA with score of 3.35 and now working since one year but still i want to do one year MBA from some globaly reputed UK universities.I want to boost up my career with one year management program and get into some global companies with good profile and money.My GMAT score is 670 and IELTS is 7.Please guide me which univ. i should apply in UK & how much is the possibilities for me to get into those universities.Is there any chance to get into London School of Business or any other equivalent B-school in UK which is comfortable with one year work experiance applicants.
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Duncan
No, until you have three years postgraduate work experience you won't be able to get into a world-class MBA in the UK.

If you can't wait, then take a masters in management
http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/masters-in-management-2011 or a masters in finance http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/masters-in-finance-pre-experience-2012

There are unaccredited MBAs at low quality universities in the UK which will take people with little or no work experience. They will not add anything to your Indian MBA.
No, until you have three years postgraduate work experience you won't be able to get into a world-class MBA in the UK.

If you can't wait, then take a masters in management
http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/masters-in-management-2011 or a masters in finance http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/masters-in-finance-pre-experience-2012

There are unaccredited MBAs at low quality universities in the UK which will take people with little or no work experience. They will not add anything to your Indian MBA.
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srkian
Thank you Mr. Duncan for your prompt reply.you made a good point to do master in managemen(MIM) programme.i need some expert views from you regarding this course.will it serve the same purpose as an MBA with respect to job quality.Secondly i want to know which are those accredited universities in UK who can provide MIM degree to one year work experiance graduates.I have heard that LSB also provides MIM degree to graduates with less than one year job experiance.Please suggest,is my profile that much worth to get into this reputed school or any other equivalent for MIM?
Thank you Mr. Duncan for your prompt reply.you made a good point to do master in managemen(MIM) programme.i need some expert views from you regarding this course.will it serve the same purpose as an MBA with respect to job quality.Secondly i want to know which are those accredited universities in UK who can provide MIM degree to one year work experiance graduates.I have heard that LSB also provides MIM degree to graduates with less than one year job experiance.Please suggest,is my profile that much worth to get into this reputed school or any other equivalent for MIM?
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Duncan
MiM programmes lead to very good jobs - as you can see from the salaries on the FT ranking I gave you a link to. However, MBA level jobs are paid even more because the added work experience allows these people to make on more senior roles.

I think you mean LBS, not LSB. It has an excellent MiM programme for people with one year or less of work experience, but it hasn't been around long enough to get into the rankings. Other than that, all the excellent accredited schools are in the FT MiM ranking.

Since it's August, you could be among the first applicants for the class of 2013 - and applying early will make you a strong candidate. For LBS, you might need to improve your GMAT.
MiM programmes lead to very good jobs - as you can see from the salaries on the FT ranking I gave you a link to. However, MBA level jobs are paid even more because the added work experience allows these people to make on more senior roles.

I think you mean LBS, not LSB. It has an excellent MiM programme for people with one year or less of work experience, but it hasn't been around long enough to get into the rankings. Other than that, all the excellent accredited schools are in the FT MiM ranking.

Since it's August, you could be among the first applicants for the class of 2013 - and applying early will make you a strong candidate. For LBS, you might need to improve your GMAT.
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srkian
Thanks a lot Mr.Duncan.Could you please tell me how much i need to scale up my GMAT score for LBS.Please do provide me the required link too as you mentioned.
Thanks a lot Mr.Duncan.Could you please tell me how much i need to scale up my GMAT score for LBS.Please do provide me the required link too as you mentioned.
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Duncan
The link is above, in my post from 12:15.

A competitive score for the MiM at LBS would be 700.
The link is above, in my post from 12:15.

A competitive score for the MiM at LBS would be 700.
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srkian
Thank you Mr. Duncan but one more question i have in my mind that should i mention my MBA degree in my application and how i justify my need to do two MBA.Do my already completed MBA degree will cause any negative impact to my application.
Thank you Mr. Duncan but one more question i have in my mind that should i mention my MBA degree in my application and how i justify my need to do two MBA.Do my already completed MBA degree will cause any negative impact to my application.
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Duncan
You have to mention it. I don't think it will affect your admission to the UK schools, no more than any other study.
You have to mention it. I don't think it will affect your admission to the UK schools, no more than any other study.
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AR
I would like to do a one year/15month MBA from a reputable Business school in the Netherlands/Denmark and then subsequently find a job in that particular country.

My Background:
-Undergrad in Business Administration (grade 83%)
- 4 internships ( 3 months each), 1.5 years of post grad work experience .
- GMAT score 570.

Please recommend the options I Have.

PS :
I have chosen Denmark and Netherlands for study as they are the only countries in Europe with a major English speaking population, hence providing a better chance of scoring a job after graduation without knowing the local language. Did not select UK because of its recent changes in immigration policy.
I would like to do a one year/15month MBA from a reputable Business school in the Netherlands/Denmark and then subsequently find a job in that particular country.

My Background:
-Undergrad in Business Administration (grade 83%)
- 4 internships ( 3 months each), 1.5 years of post grad work experience .
- GMAT score 570.

Please recommend the options I Have.

PS :
I have chosen Denmark and Netherlands for study as they are the only countries in Europe with a major English speaking population, hence providing a better chance of scoring a job after graduation without knowing the local language. Did not select UK because of its recent changes in immigration policy.
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Duncan
You will need three years work experience for an MBA. Try the MSc programmes at Copenhagen and Erasmus.
You will need three years work experience for an MBA. Try the MSc programmes at Copenhagen and Erasmus.
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AR
Do I still have a chance of securing a job after a MSc from these Schools. BTW WHU in Germany has encouraged me to apply for their MBA program with the given level of experience. should i apply there.
Do I still have a chance of securing a job after a MSc from these Schools. BTW WHU in Germany has encouraged me to apply for their MBA program with the given level of experience. should i apply there.

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Duncan
WHU only asks for two years. That will be better than an MSc. Look at the FT's masters in management ranking to see MSc outcomes.
WHU only asks for two years. That will be better than an MSc. Look at the FT's masters in management ranking to see MSc outcomes.
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