MBA after MSc in Finance and Accounting


Hello!


I hold a BSc in Economics and i would like to end up in investment banking,pe,vc,or big4 in Germany (ideally Frankfurt)

I consider joining MSc in Finance and Accounting in FOM Hochshule as i would like to work full-time while i pursue my MSc.After that i would like to gain expirience and then join MBA programme in WHU,MANNHEIM,FSFM for part-time MBA.Is that path good?

[Edited by Michail Minos on Jan 12, 2021]

Hello!<br><br>
I hold a BSc in Economics and i would like to end up in investment banking,pe,vc,or big4 in Germany (ideally Frankfurt)<div><br>
I consider joining MSc in Finance and Accounting in FOM Hochshule as i would like to work full-time while i pursue my MSc.After that i would like to gain expirience and then join MBA programme in WHU,MANNHEIM,FSFM for part-time MBA.Is that path good?</div>
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StuartHE

The FOM is really a school for industry (Deutsche Telekom, Siemens, BMW, Vodafone) and retail banking (especially DB and HSBC). EY and PwC do send people to the FOM. I don't think it's a serious route into IB, PE or VC.

The FOM is really a school for industry (Deutsche Telekom, Siemens, BMW, Vodafone) and retail banking (especially DB and HSBC). EY and PwC do send people to the FOM. I don't think it's a serious route into IB, PE or VC.
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What do you advise me to do?

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What do you advise me to do?
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StuartHE

First: re-evaluate your goals. I don't know much about you or your background. I don't believe that you have work experience in those fields or that you have native level German. PE and VC are highly competitive areas, almost impossible to enter without a strong personal network and elite credibility. 

Use LinkedIn and Xing to look at there in Germany people from Thessaloniki end up. 

Evaluate your options in terms of how much value you have to various roles that Greeks with economics background tend to find in Germany. 

After you have set those goals, understand that you will not jump into that role in one step.  Almost certainly, you will need to move through a series of steps: into a role just like the most common one, but in a brand better known in Germany, then another, and then another. 

First: re-evaluate your goals. I don't know much about you or your background. I don't believe that you have work experience in those fields or that you have native level German. PE and VC are highly competitive areas, almost impossible to enter without a strong personal network and elite credibility.&nbsp;<br><br>Use LinkedIn and Xing to look at there in Germany people from Thessaloniki end up.&nbsp;<br><br>Evaluate your options in terms of how much value you have to various roles that Greeks with economics background tend to find in Germany.&nbsp;<br><br>After you have set those goals, understand that you will not jump into that role in one step.&nbsp; Almost certainly, you will need to move through a series of steps: into a role just like the most common one, but in a brand better known in Germany, then another, and then another.&nbsp;<br>
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You said that some big4 firms do send people to FOM.What do you mean by that?
I got no work expirience but i hope that with a MSc in Finance/Accounting i can end up in a Big4/HSBC/Deutsche Bank and retail banking as you said and then move on into the investment side.
i mean will a MSc from FOM help me in joining the field?

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You said that some big4 firms do send people to FOM.What do you mean by that?<br>I got no work expirience but i hope that with a MSc in Finance/Accounting i can end up in a Big4/HSBC/Deutsche Bank and retail banking as you said and then move on into the investment side.<br>i mean will a MSc from FOM help me in joining the field?
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StuartHE

I mean that EY and PwC employees study part-time at the FOM. 

I don't know you well enough to know why one of those firms would hire you, but a few years work experience with them would set you up to do an MBA and move into IBM.

Any MSc will help you but, of course, the most helpful route would be the one recommended to you: a full-time MSc taught in German at a school that feeds graduates into those firms. 

I mean that EY and PwC employees study part-time at the FOM.&nbsp;<br><br>I don't know you well enough to know why one of those firms would hire you, but a few years work experience with them would set you up to do an MBA and move into IBM.<br><br>Any MSc will help you but, of course, the most helpful route would be the one recommended to you: a full-time MSc taught in German at a school that feeds graduates into those firms.&nbsp;
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Full-time MSc don't allow you to work and the expenses are quite high.
Will a werkstudent job offer enough money to pay the expenses?
in addition target schools are the private bussines schools with 25k+ tuitos fees.

Full-time MSc don't allow you to work and the expenses are quite high.<br>Will a werkstudent job offer enough money to pay the expenses?<br>in addition target schools are the private bussines schools with 25k+ tuitos fees.
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Duncan

An MSc taught in German would be more or less free. 

An MSc taught in German would be more or less free.&nbsp;
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Yes but as i can see i can only find MSc in Finance in Goethe Uni and Goethe BS,FSFM,Mannheim,WHU,EBS that are target schools and all these degrees are in English.

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Yes but as i can see i can only find MSc in Finance in Goethe Uni and Goethe BS,FSFM,Mannheim,WHU,EBS that are target schools and all these&nbsp;degrees are in English.
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Duncan

I think the point here is that MiFs at the 'target' schools as you call them work for native level German-speakers. You don't have the functional vocabulary or acculturation, so instead take an MSc taught in German even if that means going to a state university rather than a private school. 

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I think the point here is that MiFs at the 'target' schools as you call them work for native level German-speakers. You don't have the functional vocabulary or acculturation, so instead take an MSc taught in German even if that means going to a state university rather than a private school.&nbsp;
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What’s your opinion about TU in Dortmund ?
It has a MSc in Business and Economics with focus on Finance and Accounting! 
I kinda find hard to find a MSc in Finance in state university.all public uni have smth like MSc in Business,MSc in Economics etc. No MSc in finance only.if you know any public university with MSc in Finance plz let me know.

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What’s your opinion about TU in Dortmund ?<br>It has a MSc in Business and Economics with focus on Finance and Accounting!&nbsp;<br>I kinda find hard to find a MSc in Finance in state university.all public uni have smth like MSc in Business,MSc in Economics etc. No MSc in finance only.if you know any public university with MSc in Finance plz let me know.
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Duncan

I found 80 master's in finance related subjects in German at https://www.study-in-germany.de/en/plan-your-studies/find-programme-and-university/?a=result&q=Finance&degree=&subjects%5B380%5D=380&subjects%5B17%5D=17&studyareas%5B380%5D=380&studyfields%5B502%5D=502&studyfields%5B503%5D=503&studyfields%5B394%5D=394&studyfields%5B390%5D=390&studyfields%5B381%5D=381&studyfields%5B387%5D=387&courselanguage=1&locations=&universities%5B1%5D=1&admissionsemester=&sort=name&page=1 

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I found 80 master's in finance related subjects in German at https://www.study-in-germany.de/en/plan-your-studies/find-programme-and-university/?a=result&amp;q=Finance&amp;degree=&amp;subjects%5B380%5D=380&amp;subjects%5B17%5D=17&amp;studyareas%5B380%5D=380&amp;studyfields%5B502%5D=502&amp;studyfields%5B503%5D=503&amp;studyfields%5B394%5D=394&amp;studyfields%5B390%5D=390&amp;studyfields%5B381%5D=381&amp;studyfields%5B387%5D=387&amp;courselanguage=1&amp;locations=&amp;universities%5B1%5D=1&amp;admissionsemester=&amp;sort=name&amp;page=1&nbsp;
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Duncan

Personally, I don't know the TU in Dortmund well. I would use the CHE rankings as a guide. Using the study in Germany website, I filtered out the Fachhochschulen, which takes the number to around 25 traditional universities. Use LinkedIn and the CHE to compare them.

PS the link above doesn't remember my menu choices. When using English, add 'economic sciences' to the options.

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Personally, I don't know the TU in Dortmund well. I would use the CHE rankings as a guide. Using the study in Germany website, I filtered out the Fachhochschulen, which takes the number to around 25 traditional universities. Use LinkedIn and the CHE to compare them.<br><br>PS the link above doesn't remember my menu choices. When using English, add 'economic sciences' to the options.
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I did found a MSc in Finance and Accounting in the University of Tubingen.what's your opinion about this uni?
so far Goethe and Tubingen are the unis that I like.tell me your opinion :)

[Edited by Michail Minos on Jan 13, 2021]

I did found a MSc in Finance and Accounting in the University of Tubingen.what's your opinion about this uni?<br>so far Goethe and Tubingen are the unis that I like.tell me your opinion :)
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Duncan

That is an excellent university. The course seems to be very well designed. 

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That is an excellent university. The course seems to be very well designed.&nbsp;
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The Goethe or the Tubingen one ?

The Goethe or the Tubingen one ?
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Duncan

Tübingen. That's the one you asked about. 

Tübingen. That's the one you asked about.&nbsp;
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What’s your opinion about Goethe ? I saw a good MSc in Money and Finance degree and Frankfurt is a financial hub.

What’s your opinion about Goethe ? I saw a good MSc in Money and Finance degree and Frankfurt is a financial hub.
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Duncan

An English language degree like that would be a great tool for returning to Greece or entering a PhD. To work in Germany as a foreigner with little acculturation, find a degree in German, ideally not one based on (almost exclusively) exams (as Goethe is) but also with group assessment, formative assessment, careers services etc.

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An English language degree like that would be a great tool for returning to Greece or entering a PhD. To work in Germany as a foreigner with little acculturation, find a degree in German, ideally not one based on (almost exclusively) exams (as Goethe is) but also with group assessment, formative assessment, careers services etc.
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Duncan

As you would expect from a degree on money, it could also be a good option for a Central Bank. 

As you would expect from a degree on money, it could also be a good option for a Central Bank.&nbsp;
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