job prospects after pursuing an MBA in Germany...


rohit_ibm
Hello everyone....
i so happy to see this forum...i feel its the best place to solve me all queries.
i want to do MBA from Germany..could u people please tell me
what are the job prospects after doing an MBA from germany....
job prospects in germany as well as in all over the world???

thanks in advance!!!
Hello everyone....
i so happy to see this forum...i feel its the best place to solve me all queries.
i want to do MBA from Germany..could u people please tell me
what are the job prospects after doing an MBA from germany....
job prospects in germany as well as in all over the world???

thanks in advance!!!
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Hi rohit,
The answer to your question depends very much on your background and your aims. Where are you from? How much experience do you have? Which business sector/specialization? What kind of MBA are you planning to do? Where do you want to work afterwards.

Generally you can say that In some fields (such as IT and engineering) jobs prospects for foreign educated job applicants in Germany are good even for those who don't speak German. However, for most jobs in management you will need a very good command of German and substantial work experience to be able to compete with German applicants.
Hi rohit,
The answer to your question depends very much on your background and your aims. Where are you from? How much experience do you have? Which business sector/specialization? What kind of MBA are you planning to do? Where do you want to work afterwards.

Generally you can say that In some fields (such as IT and engineering) jobs prospects for foreign educated job applicants in Germany are good even for those who don't speak German. However, for most jobs in management you will need a very good command of German and substantial work experience to be able to compete with German applicants.
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lukeh
Hi rohit,

I completely agree with the above. The necessity of having extremely good German is also compounded by the fact that a very high proportion of German professionals already have very good English, so even of one is a native English speaker, German companies will have the English language issue covered. You might want to target those companies with an established interest in the part of the world you're from for work experience before/at the same time as you pursue your studies. German is not always an easy language to pick up, though I do know a number of people who have started from scratch and reached a pretty high level within a year. Hopefully an 18 month-long MBA course, language lessons and so on will give you the skills you need. If you're not already in Germany and you're not sure about your language skills, perhaps you'd consider going over and spending a few months living and working there either before you apply or before your course starts.
Hi rohit,

I completely agree with the above. The necessity of having extremely good German is also compounded by the fact that a very high proportion of German professionals already have very good English, so even of one is a native English speaker, German companies will have the English language issue covered. You might want to target those companies with an established interest in the part of the world you're from for work experience before/at the same time as you pursue your studies. German is not always an easy language to pick up, though I do know a number of people who have started from scratch and reached a pretty high level within a year. Hopefully an 18 month-long MBA course, language lessons and so on will give you the skills you need. If you're not already in Germany and you're not sure about your language skills, perhaps you'd consider going over and spending a few months living and working there either before you apply or before your course starts.
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rohit_ibm
Hello everyone,
Well first of all Thanks to Lavoz and lukeh for replying back to my post ,it has really helped me to get the some more clear idea of germany ....
well let me tell you in detail about my qualification....
I am an indian and have done Engineering in Information Technology
and currently i m having work experience of 18 months in IBM software group...as a software engineer....
i am intrested to do MBA in IT related stuff or in International Business....and i m more intrested working in Gremany after studies....
above information may give clear idea of myself...well may i know the name of some school which provide MBA in IT or in International business...as of now i havnt found any school offering MBA in IT...
i m planning to learn 2 levels of Germany before going there.....form goethe institue....will tht be enough ...
....
Hello everyone,
Well first of all Thanks to Lavoz and lukeh for replying back to my post ,it has really helped me to get the some more clear idea of germany ....
well let me tell you in detail about my qualification....
I am an indian and have done Engineering in Information Technology
and currently i m having work experience of 18 months in IBM software group...as a software engineer....
i am intrested to do MBA in IT related stuff or in International Business....and i m more intrested working in Gremany after studies....
above information may give clear idea of myself...well may i know the name of some school which provide MBA in IT or in International business...as of now i havnt found any school offering MBA in IT...
i m planning to learn 2 levels of Germany before going there.....form goethe institue....will tht be enough ...
....
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Hi Rohit. My name is Paul and I am pursuing MBA from University of Hamburg, Hamburg, IInd Semester. I am an Indian Just like you. The experience here is great especially after coming from a country such as india. As far as your question about job prospects in germany is concerned, I have to agree with Lavoz that getting a job here is tough. You can get a job in Germany only after showing your skills in german language and based on your job experience and since you are an engineer, job prospects for you here are much greater than any other MBA Student that is if you can prove your German language skills. There are numerous courses for MBA in IT and IB which you can find in www.DAAD.de. i hope this answer you concern.
Hi Rohit. My name is Paul and I am pursuing MBA from University of Hamburg, Hamburg, IInd Semester. I am an Indian Just like you. The experience here is great especially after coming from a country such as india. As far as your question about job prospects in germany is concerned, I have to agree with Lavoz that getting a job here is tough. You can get a job in Germany only after showing your skills in german language and based on your job experience and since you are an engineer, job prospects for you here are much greater than any other MBA Student that is if you can prove your German language skills. There are numerous courses for MBA in IT and IB which you can find in www.DAAD.de. i hope this answer you concern.
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a_mukerjee
Hi Paul, this is Attiya.
I'm curious about your experience in Hamburg.
You sound quite happy about it in general. How would you evaluate more precisely the MBA, in terms of quality of the program?
A question often asked on this board is to know how German MBAs can compete with the good MBAs internationally and especially on the European level. The reason is that German MBAs are usually accredited by special accr. bodies not so known outside German speaking, and also you won't find many in the international rankings.
Hope to hear back from you!
Hi Paul, this is Attiya.
I'm curious about your experience in Hamburg.
You sound quite happy about it in general. How would you evaluate more precisely the MBA, in terms of quality of the program?
A question often asked on this board is to know how German MBAs can compete with the good MBAs internationally and especially on the European level. The reason is that German MBAs are usually accredited by special accr. bodies not so known outside German speaking, and also you won't find many in the international rankings.
Hope to hear back from you!
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Martin_82
Hi Rohit,

If you r coming to Germany and doing your MBA here, you will find a Job here. Trust me. Germany needs talented people.
But working as a manager will be difficult, maybe u have to choose a trainee-programm and you need to improve your german skills.
Hi Rohit,

If you r coming to Germany and doing your MBA here, you will find a Job here. Trust me. Germany needs talented people.
But working as a manager will be difficult, maybe u have to choose a trainee-programm and you need to improve your german skills.
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lukeh
Seconded. But there are lots of reputable German language courses around. In addition to DAAD, you should check out 'did' (http://www.did.de/), the Goethe Institute (http://www.goethe.de/ins/de/enindex.htm), and the Humboldt University (http://www.humboldt-institut.org/). There are of course plenty of others, but to paraphrase Morrisey "Some language courses are bigger (and better) than others."
Seconded. But there are lots of reputable German language courses around. In addition to DAAD, you should check out 'did' (http://www.did.de/), the Goethe Institute (http://www.goethe.de/ins/de/enindex.htm), and the Humboldt University (http://www.humboldt-institut.org/). There are of course plenty of others, but to paraphrase Morrisey "Some language courses are bigger (and better) than others."
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Thomas
Hi

I would take this opportunity to share with you another univeristy - University of St Gallen - in Switzerland, which is regarded as the best business schools in the german-speaking world.

I am a graudate from the school and would encourage you to look through some of my experience at http://thomaswai.blogspot.com to explore how the life it is as an Asian to study in Europe.

Kind regards,
Thomas
Hi

I would take this opportunity to share with you another univeristy - University of St Gallen - in Switzerland, which is regarded as the best business schools in the german-speaking world.

I am a graudate from the school and would encourage you to look through some of my experience at http://thomaswai.blogspot.com to explore how the life it is as an Asian to study in Europe.

Kind regards,
Thomas



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Dear All,

I am an Indian and am inclined to do my MBA from WHU-Otto Beisheim School of Management in Germany.

I have 7 years of international work experience (including 6 years in China, USA, Europe and 1.5 years in India). I speak fluent German and fluent Mandarin Chinese.

I have been mostly involved in international business for consumer products. What do you think are my prospects to find a suitable job in Germany?

Thanks,
Naman

Hi

I would take this opportunity to share with you another univeristy - University of St Gallen - in Switzerland, which is regarded as the best business schools in the german-speaking world.

I am a graudate from the school and would encourage you to look through some of my experience at http://thomaswai.blogspot.com to explore how the life it is as an Asian to study in Europe.

Kind regards,
Thomas


Dear All,

I am an Indian and am inclined to do my MBA from WHU-Otto Beisheim School of Management in Germany.

I have 7 years of international work experience (including 6 years in China, USA, Europe and 1.5 years in India). I speak fluent German and fluent Mandarin Chinese.

I have been mostly involved in international business for consumer products. What do you think are my prospects to find a suitable job in Germany?

Thanks,
Naman

<blockquote>Hi

I would take this opportunity to share with you another univeristy - University of St Gallen - in Switzerland, which is regarded as the best business schools in the german-speaking world.

I am a graudate from the school and would encourage you to look through some of my experience at http://thomaswai.blogspot.com to explore how the life it is as an Asian to study in Europe.

Kind regards,
Thomas



</blockquote>
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Destro
hiya jollynaman --- as i'm sure you already know, WHU is considered one of the top 5 best programs in germany. if you speak good german and the school has good connections to business you should be able to find something. i imagine that WHU is a haven for recruiters.

btw --- do you happen to know if Germany allows any time after degree for finding a job? i mean is there chances of getting an extended visa to look for work. i am from the USA, so the rules are probably similar to as if I was from India (i.e. not european union).
hiya jollynaman --- as i'm sure you already know, WHU is considered one of the top 5 best programs in germany. if you speak good german and the school has good connections to business you should be able to find something. i imagine that WHU is a haven for recruiters.

btw --- do you happen to know if Germany allows any time after degree for finding a job? i mean is there chances of getting an extended visa to look for work. i am from the USA, so the rules are probably similar to as if I was from India (i.e. not european union).
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Hey Destro,

Thanks for the message! It is nice to hear promising information about the WHU program in Germany.

Regarding the visa issue. I will check the same revert to you within 2-3 days.

Are you an Indian national as well?

Cheers!

hiya jollynaman --- as i'm sure you already know, WHU is considered one of the top 5 best programs in germany. if you speak good german and the school has good connections to business you should be able to find something. i imagine that WHU is a haven for recruiters.

btw --- do you happen to know if Germany allows any time after degree for finding a job? i mean is there chances of getting an extended visa to look for work. i am from the USA, so the rules are probably similar to as if I was from India (i.e. not european union).
Hey Destro,

Thanks for the message! It is nice to hear promising information about the WHU program in Germany.

Regarding the visa issue. I will check the same revert to you within 2-3 days.

Are you an Indian national as well?

Cheers!

<blockquote>hiya jollynaman --- as i'm sure you already know, WHU is considered one of the top 5 best programs in germany. if you speak good german and the school has good connections to business you should be able to find something. i imagine that WHU is a haven for recruiters.

btw --- do you happen to know if Germany allows any time after degree for finding a job? i mean is there chances of getting an extended visa to look for work. i am from the USA, so the rules are probably similar to as if I was from India (i.e. not european union).</blockquote>
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JohnnyL
Dear all,

Like in any other country, the reputation of the business school determines its graduate's value on the job market. In the German-speaking region, Mannheim and St. Gallen offer the best fulltime MBA programs and therefore the best perspectives on the national and international job market. The WHU fulltime MBA offers a solid quality, although this school is much more known for its EMBA. Beware of rotten apples on the market like ESMT and EBS! Their acadmic quality is considered to be poor.

Best,
JL
Dear all,

Like in any other country, the reputation of the business school determines its graduate's value on the job market. In the German-speaking region, Mannheim and St. Gallen offer the best fulltime MBA programs and therefore the best perspectives on the national and international job market. The WHU fulltime MBA offers a solid quality, although this school is much more known for its EMBA. Beware of rotten apples on the market like ESMT and EBS! Their acadmic quality is considered to be poor.

Best,
JL
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Hey JL,

Thanks for the advise! However if I am targeting the Spring 2009 and have WHU as an option, I hope WHU is not a bad choice. Please advise. I already have a confirmation from WHU for the Spring 2009 intake.

I am of the opinion that WHU, because of the strong EMBA Program, can also offer very good networking opportunities. I have spoken to a few ex-students of HHL as well and they view the WHU MBA very high. Mannheim also enjoys a good platform but since it starts in Sept. so I might get a lot of competition to face since so many ppl. have lost jobs due to recession and will look at enhancing their education skills to come back strongly in the job market.

Recently I also got to know that the Dean of the Columbia Business School confirmed to have already received a jump of over 30% than usual applications traffic.

Your views will be very helpful.

Best regards,
Naman
Hey JL,

Thanks for the advise! However if I am targeting the Spring 2009 and have WHU as an option, I hope WHU is not a bad choice. Please advise. I already have a confirmation from WHU for the Spring 2009 intake.

I am of the opinion that WHU, because of the strong EMBA Program, can also offer very good networking opportunities. I have spoken to a few ex-students of HHL as well and they view the WHU MBA very high. Mannheim also enjoys a good platform but since it starts in Sept. so I might get a lot of competition to face since so many ppl. have lost jobs due to recession and will look at enhancing their education skills to come back strongly in the job market.

Recently I also got to know that the Dean of the Columbia Business School confirmed to have already received a jump of over 30% than usual applications traffic.

Your views will be very helpful.

Best regards,
Naman
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JohnnyL
Hi Naman,

don't worry: WHU is a good choice in Germany, at least a much better option than ESMT, EBS, GISMA and even HHL. And as far as I am informed it is not that easy to get admitted to Mannheim and St. Gallen. Have you ever thought about Goethe BS Frankfurt? That could be an option too since they will offer a fulltime program in 2009.

Best,
JL
Hi Naman,

don't worry: WHU is a good choice in Germany, at least a much better option than ESMT, EBS, GISMA and even HHL. And as far as I am informed it is not that easy to get admitted to Mannheim and St. Gallen. Have you ever thought about Goethe BS Frankfurt? That could be an option too since they will offer a fulltime program in 2009.

Best,
JL
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Hey JL,

Thanks for the feedback. I surely agree that St. Gallen is good. Mannheim has gained stronger recognition in the recent past. I guess WHU is an old horse, which is still strong and dependable. I only have one apprehension that both Mannheim and St. Gallen start in Fall 2009 and I don't wanna wait until then. Due to global recession the competition will surely become intense and it will be difficult to find seats in schools.

What do you think?

Best regards,
Naman

Hi Naman,

don't worry: WHU is a good choice in Germany, at least a much better option than ESMT, EBS, GISMA and even HHL. And as far as I am informed it is not that easy to get admitted to Mannheim and St. Gallen. Have you ever thought about Goethe BS Frankfurt? That could be an option too since they will offer a fulltime program in 2009.

Best,
JL
Hey JL,

Thanks for the feedback. I surely agree that St. Gallen is good. Mannheim has gained stronger recognition in the recent past. I guess WHU is an old horse, which is still strong and dependable. I only have one apprehension that both Mannheim and St. Gallen start in Fall 2009 and I don't wanna wait until then. Due to global recession the competition will surely become intense and it will be difficult to find seats in schools.

What do you think?

Best regards,
Naman

<blockquote>Hi Naman,

don't worry: WHU is a good choice in Germany, at least a much better option than ESMT, EBS, GISMA and even HHL. And as far as I am informed it is not that easy to get admitted to Mannheim and St. Gallen. Have you ever thought about Goethe BS Frankfurt? That could be an option too since they will offer a fulltime program in 2009.

Best,
JL</blockquote>
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JohnnyL
Hi Naman,

As I already mentioned: WHU is not Germany's Harvard in terms of the fulltime MBA, but a good one indeed. As far as I am informed the selction process at Mannheim is very competitive. That means you cannot rely on getting admitted there. WHU should not be that selective and you can start your MBA earlier.

Take care,
JL
Hi Naman,

As I already mentioned: WHU is not Germany's Harvard in terms of the fulltime MBA, but a good one indeed. As far as I am informed the selction process at Mannheim is very competitive. That means you cannot rely on getting admitted there. WHU should not be that selective and you can start your MBA earlier.

Take care,
JL
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Hello everyone,

I hope everybody is doing well. Well I am Jayesh and I did MBA from Chicago USA. I would like to know if I can use my credentials to get into some good business school in Germany. GMAT score is 660 and TOEFL IBT score is 108. I have 2 years of prior engineering work experience. I cannot start over again in Germany. I would definitely like to get some courses waived. Any suggestions about good B-schools where I may perhaps get some scholarship, get some courses waived off and have chances of finding some good internship. I know the language somewhat. Have done two levels and am ready to learn further whenever needed.
Hello everyone,

I hope everybody is doing well. Well I am Jayesh and I did MBA from Chicago USA. I would like to know if I can use my credentials to get into some good business school in Germany. GMAT score is 660 and TOEFL IBT score is 108. I have 2 years of prior engineering work experience. I cannot start over again in Germany. I would definitely like to get some courses waived. Any suggestions about good B-schools where I may perhaps get some scholarship, get some courses waived off and have chances of finding some good internship. I know the language somewhat. Have done two levels and am ready to learn further whenever needed.
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gaur6534
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JohnnyL
Hi Jayesh,

to give you an orientation for the German speaking market, here is my personal ranking of German fulltime programs:

1. Mannheim
2. St. Gallen (Switzerland)
... (large gap)
3. WHU
4. Goethe Frankfurt
5. HHL
... (large gap)
6. Saarbrücken (Europa Inst.)
7. GISMA
8. Fachhochschulen (Pforzheim, Berlin, Furtwangen, etc.)
9. ESMT
10. EBS

Hope that helps.

Best,
JL
Hi Jayesh,

to give you an orientation for the German speaking market, here is my personal ranking of German fulltime programs:

1. Mannheim
2. St. Gallen (Switzerland)
... (large gap)
3. WHU
4. Goethe Frankfurt
5. HHL
... (large gap)
6. Saarbrücken (Europa Inst.)
7. GISMA
8. Fachhochschulen (Pforzheim, Berlin, Furtwangen, etc.)
9. ESMT
10. EBS

Hope that helps.

Best,
JL

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