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I get you.

Just as an option evaluation could you share your thought on MSc SCM from Cranfield, UK.

I liked the programme but was not sure on job market in UK and visa restrictions. Further, being a non-EU restricts mobility to other EU countries therefore, was not considering UK.

In fact I am also considering Msc RSM.

As I mentioned, I have combination of both SCM and Finance as my exposure and education. I am enrolled for CFA and pursuing APICS as well.

Regards!

I get you.

Just as an option evaluation could you share your thought on MSc SCM from Cranfield, UK.

I liked the programme but was not sure on job market in UK and visa restrictions. Further, being a non-EU restricts mobility to other EU countries therefore, was not considering UK.

In fact I am also considering Msc RSM.

As I mentioned, I have combination of both SCM and Finance as my exposure and education. I am enrolled for CFA and pursuing APICS as well.

Regards!
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Duncan

Cranfield's a great school. Placement is strong there.

Cranfield's a great school. Placement is strong there.
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I agree, Cranfield is great place.

But do you think school is good enough to deal with UK economy and new visa rules in placements?

Regards!

I agree, Cranfield is great place.

But do you think school is good enough to deal with UK economy and new visa rules in placements?

Regards!
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Duncan

Well, ask for data on the specialised masters you are looking at. Looking at the MSc in finance, for example:
2013 $85,640 http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/masters-in-finance-pre-experience-2013
2012 $79,612 http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/masters-in-finance-pre-experience-2012
2011 $76,372 http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/masters-in-finance-pre-experience-2011

It looks pretty good to me.

Well, ask for data on the specialised masters you are looking at. Looking at the MSc in finance, for example:
2013 $85,640 http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/masters-in-finance-pre-experience-2013
2012 $79,612 http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/masters-in-finance-pre-experience-2012
2011 $76,372 http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/masters-in-finance-pre-experience-2011

It looks pretty good to me.
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Hi Duncan,

I have a call with career service director of Cranfield to discuss work visa and job opportunities form MSSCM in UK. Hopeful of good time.

Could you suggest what level of German proficiency will be ok make recruiters consider you in Germany? Is B1 good enough?

Regards

Hi Duncan,

I have a call with career service director of Cranfield to discuss work visa and job opportunities form MSSCM in UK. Hopeful of good time.

Could you suggest what level of German proficiency will be ok make recruiters consider you in Germany? Is B1 good enough?

Regards
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Duncan

No, it's not possible to work even in a coffee shop with B1 German. Take a look at Do you need to speak the local language? www.find-mba.com/board/34713

I don't see how a Cranfield course will help you get placement in Germany.

No, it's not possible to work even in a coffee shop with B1 German. Take a look at Do you need to speak the local language? www.find-mba.com/board/34713

I don't see how a Cranfield course will help you get placement in Germany.
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Thanks Duncan for replying.

I am considering Cranfield for UK only and not Germany.
Evaluating options for both UK and Germany separately.

Regards

Thanks Duncan for replying.

I am considering Cranfield for UK only and not Germany.
Evaluating options for both UK and Germany separately.

Regards
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Aidea

Hello Duncan!
I know I am a little bit of topic, I am planning to study in Germany, but feel confused about the choice and I need your advice which variant is better.
Well, the subject is BWL(International business/business economucs) in English.(Bachelor)
Uni-s I applied to:
1.HS Reutlingen (Point of confusion that it is HochSchule, but has a good ranking)
2.Martin Luther University Halle-Wittenberg
3.Nuremberg Institute of Technology
4. University of Magdeburg

The first two is a dilemma.

Or another variant. I learn german now and have B1.1, so may be it will be better to enter preparatory course at the Uni and then apply to a good ranked Uni?
Thank you

Hello Duncan!
I know I am a little bit of topic, I am planning to study in Germany, but feel confused about the choice and I need your advice which variant is better.
Well, the subject is BWL(International business/business economucs) in English.(Bachelor)
Uni-s I applied to:
1.HS Reutlingen (Point of confusion that it is HochSchule, but has a good ranking)
2.Martin Luther University Halle-Wittenberg
3.Nuremberg Institute of Technology
4. University of Magdeburg

The first two is a dilemma.

Or another variant. I learn german now and have B1.1, so may be it will be better to enter preparatory course at the Uni and then apply to a good ranked Uni?
Thank you
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Duncan

Reutlingen is certainly a school to take seriously. The ESB has a great reputation. But, certainly, it will be a good investment for you to improve your German and go somewhere even better.

Reutlingen is certainly a school to take seriously. The ESB has a great reputation. But, certainly, it will be a good investment for you to improve your German and go somewhere even better.
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Hi Duncan,

I have been posting some questions before. Now I find myself quite confused.

I have a 3 year graduation in Commerce and masters through distance (India).
My GMAT is 680 and TOEFL 110. Work-ex 9+ and have been to USA on project related short visits.

I want to go for a full-time course in SCM preferably one year. I don't mind MS for MBA but with school with low tuition cost options or ones with generous financial aids.

I have been keen about Germany but I am surprised not to have good options in SCM in English in a country with leading exports in Europe.

Netherlands again has options for a fresher and not people with good work-ex.

UK Canfield has got a good program but has visa problems.

USA Michigan Ann Arbor has a 10-month program with paid internship but is quite expensive.

Singapore has got SCM more for engineering students.

I want to settle as consultant and don't mind any other country but would certainly be more happy with ones listed above. I have heard Malaysia is getting ready as SCM hub with major manufacturing plans there.

Could you please suggest a few options or approach for searching.

Hi Duncan,

I have been posting some questions before. Now I find myself quite confused.

I have a 3 year graduation in Commerce and masters through distance (India).
My GMAT is 680 and TOEFL 110. Work-ex 9+ and have been to USA on project related short visits.

I want to go for a full-time course in SCM preferably one year. I don't mind MS for MBA but with school with low tuition cost options or ones with generous financial aids.

I have been keen about Germany but I am surprised not to have good options in SCM in English in a country with leading exports in Europe.

Netherlands again has options for a fresher and not people with good work-ex.

UK Canfield has got a good program but has visa problems.

USA Michigan Ann Arbor has a 10-month program with paid internship but is quite expensive.

Singapore has got SCM more for engineering students.

I want to settle as consultant and don't mind any other country but would certainly be more happy with ones listed above. I have heard Malaysia is getting ready as SCM hub with major manufacturing plans there.

Could you please suggest a few options or approach for searching.
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Duncan

I don't see why there would be many options in Germany in English, since the language of manufacturing and trade is German there.

Why not search the board to look at the other options, like ETH and ZLOG?

I don't see why there would be many options in Germany in English, since the language of manufacturing and trade is German there.

Why not search the board to look at the other options, like ETH and ZLOG?
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Hi all ... thanks for sharing your thoughts... :)

Hi all ... thanks for sharing your thoughts... :)
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Thanks Duncan, but ETH has executive MBA program and therefore, won't allow me. ZLOG sounds good but its intake is dominated by engineers.

I am probably re-asking this question but If am taking German courses for a year and another year during I am studying Masters will the total 2 years be sufficient enough for work level command?

Could you please suggest a country and course taking budget, Langauge and working options in consideration.

Thanks Duncan, but ETH has executive MBA program and therefore, won't allow me. ZLOG sounds good but its intake is dominated by engineers.

I am probably re-asking this question but If am taking German courses for a year and another year during I am studying Masters will the total 2 years be sufficient enough for work level command?

Could you please suggest a country and course taking budget, Langauge and working options in consideration.
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Duncan

No, I was suggesting that department's MSc programme: http://www.mtec.ethz.ch/education/msc_mtec

Yes, if you take an intensive German course for an academic year you will be at fluency. I would suggest then taking an MSc with some or all courses in that language (rather than in English) in order to build your functional vocabulary.

I took the intensive course in Munich (http://www.dkfa.de/english) which is good, but the lack of air conditioning made it hard for me at the height of the summer.

I suggest you contact your local DAAD office, or visit daad.de, to find out more. I can't really get into all the specifics about all the contextual issues in the time available, and you seem smart enough to work them all out easily.

No, I was suggesting that department's MSc programme: http://www.mtec.ethz.ch/education/msc_mtec

Yes, if you take an intensive German course for an academic year you will be at fluency. I would suggest then taking an MSc with some or all courses in that language (rather than in English) in order to build your functional vocabulary.

I took the intensive course in Munich (http://www.dkfa.de/english) which is good, but the lack of air conditioning made it hard for me at the height of the summer.

I suggest you contact your local DAAD office, or visit daad.de, to find out more. I can't really get into all the specifics about all the contextual issues in the time available, and you seem smart enough to work them all out easily.
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Thanks Duncun, this new about ETH to know.
But admission calls for engineering or IT graduates, I am Bachelors in Commerce. I see still they are open to have application. Moreover, it is management program with lot of areas covered and not single specialization.

Does Switzerland has any language barriers?

One simple question - Which will be the first country and full-time course on your mind when you hear SCM except MIT? And why?

Regards

Thanks Duncun, this new about ETH to know.
But admission calls for engineering or IT graduates, I am Bachelors in Commerce. I see still they are open to have application. Moreover, it is management program with lot of areas covered and not single specialization.

Does Switzerland has any language barriers?

One simple question - Which will be the first country and full-time course on your mind when you hear SCM except MIT? And why?

Regards
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Duncan

Everywhere has language barriers if you don't speak the language.

Read http://www.best-masters.com/ranking-master-supply-chain-and-logistics.html

Everywhere has language barriers if you don't speak the language.

Read http://www.best-masters.com/ranking-master-supply-chain-and-logistics.html
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Hi Duncun,

I have been through this list before but it confuses me more for the following reasons:
1) It compares both consecutive master programs as well as experienced. Based on interactions I have with Cranfield they have a class of avg. age 26-27 whereas RSM has 23-24. How can the two be compared; for a person like me does RSM would be of any value of is above 27?

2) The list has MBA Purdue when we are talking of MS. If we include MBA there should be many other featuring.

3) It has got a few where SCM is just one of the other concentrations like WHU

4) It lists MSU Broad so low, neither has UMICH Ann Arbor MSCM nor any of the MIT SCALE network programs.

If one wants to find out about degrees in finance or technology there as clear winners and losers. But for SCM that is equally important I am unable to find clear picture. Moreover, nobody is talking about APICS or CSCMP whereas as soon as finance is talked about every degree has partnership with CFA program!

In fact even geographies are clearly marked as for finance best places would be New York, Toronto, London etc. so is for technology. Surprisingly, SCM has not got its ocean yet defined.

do you agree?

-Regards

Hi Duncun,

I have been through this list before but it confuses me more for the following reasons:
1) It compares both consecutive master programs as well as experienced. Based on interactions I have with Cranfield they have a class of avg. age 26-27 whereas RSM has 23-24. How can the two be compared; for a person like me does RSM would be of any value of is above 27?

2) The list has MBA Purdue when we are talking of MS. If we include MBA there should be many other featuring.

3) It has got a few where SCM is just one of the other concentrations like WHU

4) It lists MSU Broad so low, neither has UMICH Ann Arbor MSCM nor any of the MIT SCALE network programs.

If one wants to find out about degrees in finance or technology there as clear winners and losers. But for SCM that is equally important I am unable to find clear picture. Moreover, nobody is talking about APICS or CSCMP whereas as soon as finance is talked about every degree has partnership with CFA program!

In fact even geographies are clearly marked as for finance best places would be New York, Toronto, London etc. so is for technology. Surprisingly, SCM has not got its ocean yet defined.

do you agree?

-Regards
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Duncan

All rankings are imperfect, but this is constructed by a huge survey. The reality is that there are different masters degrees aimed at different people: a ranking has to produce a general model that simplified all of that. It's not at all reasonable to complain that a ranking does that: it is the essential mission of a ranking.

All rankings are imperfect, but this is constructed by a huge survey. The reality is that there are different masters degrees aimed at different people: a ranking has to produce a general model that simplified all of that. It's not at all reasonable to complain that a ranking does that: it is the essential mission of a ranking.
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Thanks Duncun, I agree with each word of yours!

As you mention each program is aimed for different people and ranking consolidates it. If I need to find the relevant for me out of the list of 100 what shall be the starting point.

I can surely weed out 25-30 or may be up to 50. That is the point where I get stuck.

For example: Cranfleld MSCM and UMICH MSCM both are great colleges and apparently catering to similar group and have no language barriers as well. What shall be the scorecard, I am not saying I should only YES/NO answer for either but something that would lead to a decision.

-Regards

Thanks Duncun, I agree with each word of yours!

As you mention each program is aimed for different people and ranking consolidates it. If I need to find the relevant for me out of the list of 100 what shall be the starting point.

I can surely weed out 25-30 or may be up to 50. That is the point where I get stuck.

For example: Cranfleld MSCM and UMICH MSCM both are great colleges and apparently catering to similar group and have no language barriers as well. What shall be the scorecard, I am not saying I should only YES/NO answer for either but something that would lead to a decision.

-Regards
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Duncan

Well, I think you should start with your career goals. These are very different universities, in very different locations, with different employment regimes for foreigners. The Cranfield programme will probably be mainly international students and the Michigan program will be mainly for US residents.

Well, I think you should start with your career goals. These are very different universities, in very different locations, with different employment regimes for foreigners. The Cranfield programme will probably be mainly international students and the Michigan program will be mainly for US residents.
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