Strathclyde, Bath, Henley, Durham, Aston - let's compare


Hincks

I have some knowledge of Henley.
You should probably see the campus it is fantastic and so are the people.
In terms of reputation in the UK Henley is top tier along with Cranfield and Manchester. As a previous poster noted the course is old and tired. The students are superior but with the expansion of the course the foreign students are often inferior.
The University of Reading is probably a below average UK University and the effects are being felt at Henley. The Business School is not as quick to respond to issues and has not increase support to reflect the increasing number of students.
The career support is recognised as being dire and has been for a number of years but they have not responded. However, due to the quality of the intake and the alumni, which is behind only a few US schools, leavers tend to do well.
The brand is still very well perceived by corporates but the momentum is definitely down and the School could very well go the way of Ashridge.
If I were you I would look at Cranfield, Manchester, and Warwick in that order or look to the Continental European Schools for one year courses.

I have some knowledge of Henley.
You should probably see the campus it is fantastic and so are the people.
In terms of reputation in the UK Henley is top tier along with Cranfield and Manchester. As a previous poster noted the course is old and tired. The students are superior but with the expansion of the course the foreign students are often inferior.
The University of Reading is probably a below average UK University and the effects are being felt at Henley. The Business School is not as quick to respond to issues and has not increase support to reflect the increasing number of students.
The career support is recognised as being dire and has been for a number of years but they have not responded. However, due to the quality of the intake and the alumni, which is behind only a few US schools, leavers tend to do well.
The brand is still very well perceived by corporates but the momentum is definitely down and the School could very well go the way of Ashridge.
If I were you I would look at Cranfield, Manchester, and Warwick in that order or look to the Continental European Schools for one year courses.
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gaju1869

Hi everyone, I have an offer from Henley and Durham Littlebit confused which one to take, can anybody suggest please. My exp. is more 15 years plus.

Hi everyone, I have an offer from Henley and Durham Littlebit confused which one to take, can anybody suggest please. My exp. is more 15 years plus.
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Mamit

Hi everyone, I have an offer from Henley and Durham Littlebit confused which one to take, can anybody suggest please. My exp. is more 15 years plus.


Henley would be better... if you have 15 + yrs of exp

<blockquote>Hi everyone, I have an offer from Henley and Durham Littlebit confused which one to take, can anybody suggest please. My exp. is more 15 years plus.</blockquote>

Henley would be better... if you have 15 + yrs of exp
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gaju1869

Thanks Mamit for your quick reply, since you stay and work in UK can you share with me what would be cost of living in "Henley" and how is the reputation of the school in UK and internationally? Economist ranked it higher 2nd in UK, 5th in Europe and 17 th in world. But it is not reflected in FT rankings. I think they have not provided data to FT probably, because it was appearing in FT before 2010 and in Business week also it was regarded at top position in 2nd tier school. some one said it is in top tier in UK and very well recognized. Will it be value addition for Me?

Thanks Mamit for your quick reply, since you stay and work in UK can you share with me what would be cost of living in "Henley" and how is the reputation of the school in UK and internationally? Economist ranked it higher 2nd in UK, 5th in Europe and 17 th in world. But it is not reflected in FT rankings. I think they have not provided data to FT probably, because it was appearing in FT before 2010 and in Business week also it was regarded at top position in 2nd tier school. some one said it is in top tier in UK and very well recognized. Will it be value addition for Me?
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lemming176

Henley is a well respected tier 3 school. It is not on a par with Tier 1 (LBS, Cambridge, Oxford) or Tier 2 (Cranfield, Manchester, Warwick, (more recently) Imperial & probably Cass (if finance specific)).

It is in the mix with very good schools like Durham, Lancaster, Strathclyde, Edinburgh, Ashridge etc.

Good quality scheme but not internationally great. They are not listed in the Top 20 international business schools by businessweek, and have a larger focus on parttime/executive MBAs, specifically for experienced managers (7-8 yrs+). This may be why they aren't in the FT full-time rankings.

My recommendation (I'm at Manchester btw) is to go for Durham. I was very impressed by their setup, investment (past and future) and academic credentials. Links to industry (e.g.g top tier banks, consultancy firms etc) were not as good as some of the better schools, but this is to be expected. The Durham University brand is very strong internationally and will go a long way to open doors in the future.

It was too far to travel for a part-time course from London though, which is why I didn't go for it.

Henley is a well respected tier 3 school. It is not on a par with Tier 1 (LBS, Cambridge, Oxford) or Tier 2 (Cranfield, Manchester, Warwick, (more recently) Imperial & probably Cass (if finance specific)).

It is in the mix with very good schools like Durham, Lancaster, Strathclyde, Edinburgh, Ashridge etc.

Good quality scheme but not internationally great. They are not listed in the Top 20 international business schools by businessweek, and have a larger focus on parttime/executive MBAs, specifically for experienced managers (7-8 yrs+). This may be why they aren't in the FT full-time rankings.

My recommendation (I'm at Manchester btw) is to go for Durham. I was very impressed by their setup, investment (past and future) and academic credentials. Links to industry (e.g.g top tier banks, consultancy firms etc) were not as good as some of the better schools, but this is to be expected. The Durham University brand is very strong internationally and will go a long way to open doors in the future.

It was too far to travel for a part-time course from London though, which is why I didn't go for it.
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Replying to all those who are consideing applying to study in UK pls beware that the government is considering to review the Post Study visa and if the decision is made against it then post study you will have to get back to your home country.....

Replying to all those who are consideing applying to study in UK pls beware that the government is considering to review the Post Study visa and if the decision is made against it then post study you will have to get back to your home country.....
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kk_kimster

Replying to all those who are consideing applying to study in UK pls beware that the government is considering to review the Post Study visa and if the decision is made against it then post study you will have to get back to your home country.....


With all due respect mate, govt should understand that people would run away from UK if that's the case and that is something both the univs and the MNCs there would strongly condemn. Yes, there's an uncertainty regarding PSW but just like how HSMP was mellowed down to PSW, the PSW will be revised to something else which will still allow highly skilled students to work and contribute to the economy. Okay, they wanna pull the strings a little bit by not allowing students to use their PSWs for low skilled jobs but someone graduating from one of the top B schools in the country, intending to get a solid work experience in the UK should be given a chance.

<blockquote>Replying to all those who are consideing applying to study in UK pls beware that the government is considering to review the Post Study visa and if the decision is made against it then post study you will have to get back to your home country.....</blockquote>

With all due respect mate, govt should understand that people would run away from UK if that's the case and that is something both the univs and the MNCs there would strongly condemn. Yes, there's an uncertainty regarding PSW but just like how HSMP was mellowed down to PSW, the PSW will be revised to something else which will still allow highly skilled students to work and contribute to the economy. Okay, they wanna pull the strings a little bit by not allowing students to use their PSWs for low skilled jobs but someone graduating from one of the top B schools in the country, intending to get a solid work experience in the UK should be given a chance.
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gaju1869

You should not tag your employment work permit with your MBA. If you are good at MBA form a good Institute with professional experience you are bound to get good job post MBA. It may be in Europe, Us or UK. if selected you can apply for fresh UK visa for working there. Government in UK may be thinking for putting a ban on issue of visa while applying for MBA admission and there view is fair or else students lands up taking underpaid jobs just because they want to continue and remain there (with or without job).

You should not tag your employment work permit with your MBA. If you are good at MBA form a good Institute with professional experience you are bound to get good job post MBA. It may be in Europe, Us or UK. if selected you can apply for fresh UK visa for working there. Government in UK may be thinking for putting a ban on issue of visa while applying for MBA admission and there view is fair or else students lands up taking underpaid jobs just because they want to continue and remain there (with or without job).
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Poppy

Hi All,

First, a very Happy New Year to everyone.
I am planning to get into a full time MBA course in 2010 and am hoping to get your opinion on the following schools:
1)Strathclyde
2)Henley
3)Bath
4)Durham
5)Aston
Amongst the ones above, except Henley, all are in the global 100 according to FT 2009 rankings with Strathclyde holding the highest position of 41 (2008 ranking - 30). Henley is not mentioned in FT ranking but EIU 2009 ranks puts it at 21 globally. Also Henley has the highest fee structure of 33,000 GBP.
It would be great if you can provide insights into the quality of MBA courses in these schools and the reputation of these in the business industry.
Thanks for your time. Eager to hear from you.

Regards
Anirban


Hi everyone,
I don't think the decision of where to study for an MBA should be decided on FT rankings (or any other rankings) alone. It is not just what is taught in the classroom that can vary but the culture of the institution, the background of the teachers, the make-up of the student body can differ widely from school to school. I would strongly advise talking to alumni from the institutions you are interested in to see if their picture of MBA study fits with your desired goals.
Hope this helps

<blockquote>Hi All,

First, a very Happy New Year to everyone.
I am planning to get into a full time MBA course in 2010 and am hoping to get your opinion on the following schools:
1)Strathclyde
2)Henley
3)Bath
4)Durham
5)Aston
Amongst the ones above, except Henley, all are in the global 100 according to FT 2009 rankings with Strathclyde holding the highest position of 41 (2008 ranking - 30). Henley is not mentioned in FT ranking but EIU 2009 ranks puts it at 21 globally. Also Henley has the highest fee structure of 33,000 GBP.
It would be great if you can provide insights into the quality of MBA courses in these schools and the reputation of these in the business industry.
Thanks for your time. Eager to hear from you.

Regards
Anirban</blockquote>

Hi everyone,
I don't think the decision of where to study for an MBA should be decided on FT rankings (or any other rankings) alone. It is not just what is taught in the classroom that can vary but the culture of the institution, the background of the teachers, the make-up of the student body can differ widely from school to school. I would strongly advise talking to alumni from the institutions you are interested in to see if their picture of MBA study fits with your desired goals.
Hope this helps
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Sparks

Whenever I've been recruiting, headhunters have always cited the Henley MBA in glowing terms as top tier. This matches Hincks' comments:

I have some knowledge of Henley.
You should probably see the campus it is fantastic and so are the people.
In terms of reputation in the UK Henley is top tier along with Cranfield and Manchester. As a previous poster noted the course is old and tired. ...


I think you mean old and tried! :)


The brand is still very well perceived by corporates but the momentum is definitely down and the School could very well go the way of Ashridge.


Has Ashridge slid? Am I mistaken to think it's still highly regarded?

It would be sad if Henley and Ashridge didn't retain ground, because who else offers an MBA for very experienced managers?

Whenever I've been recruiting, headhunters have always cited the Henley MBA in glowing terms as top tier. This matches Hincks' comments:

<blockquote>I have some knowledge of Henley.
You should probably see the campus it is fantastic and so are the people.
In terms of reputation in the UK Henley is top tier along with Cranfield and Manchester. As a previous poster noted the course is old and tired. ...
</blockquote>

I think you mean old and tried! :)

<blockquote>
The brand is still very well perceived by corporates but the momentum is definitely down and the School could very well go the way of Ashridge.
</blockquote>

Has Ashridge slid? Am I mistaken to think it's still highly regarded?

It would be sad if Henley and Ashridge didn't retain ground, because who else offers an MBA for very experienced managers?
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maubia




It would be sad if Henley and Ashridge didn't retain ground, because who else offers an MBA for very experienced managers?

Actually Henley has already given up... from next year they ll be offering an mba for less experienced people


<blockquote>


It would be sad if Henley and Ashridge didn't retain ground, because who else offers an MBA for very experienced managers?</blockquote>
Actually Henley has already given up... from next year they ll be offering an mba for less experienced people
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ralph

I don't think the decision of where to study for an MBA should be decided on FT rankings (or any other rankings) alone. It is not just what is taught in the classroom that can vary but the culture of the institution, the background of the teachers, the make-up of the student body can differ widely from school to school. I would strongly advise talking to alumni from the institutions you are interested in to see if their picture of MBA study fits with your desired goals.
Hope this helps

This is good advice - but that doesn't mean people should disregard the rankings altogether. I think they should factor in to a decision as potential students weigh these and related questions as they look at a program:

How will this particular MBA help me advance my career?
Where do I want to end up working?
Is the university accredited?
How successful are alumni in the field I want to work in?
Is my profile right for this program?

It would be sad if Henley and Ashridge didn't retain ground, because who else offers an MBA for very experienced managers?

Potential highly-experienced applicants should check out each of those school's well-regarded EMBA programs - their curriculums both cater to managers with robust experience.

<blockquote>I don't think the decision of where to study for an MBA should be decided on FT rankings (or any other rankings) alone. It is not just what is taught in the classroom that can vary but the culture of the institution, the background of the teachers, the make-up of the student body can differ widely from school to school. I would strongly advise talking to alumni from the institutions you are interested in to see if their picture of MBA study fits with your desired goals.
Hope this helps </blockquote>
This is good advice - but that doesn't mean people should disregard the rankings altogether. I think they should factor in to a decision as potential students weigh these and related questions as they look at a program:

How will this particular MBA help me advance my career?
Where do I want to end up working?
Is the university accredited?
How successful are alumni in the field I want to work in?
Is my profile right for this program?

<blockquote>It would be sad if Henley and Ashridge didn't retain ground, because who else offers an MBA for very experienced managers?</blockquote>
Potential highly-experienced applicants should check out each of those school's well-regarded EMBA programs - their curriculums both cater to managers with robust experience.
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