Correct. I dont think recruitment ever stops. The fact is that good students from good universities will find work no matter what. In that case, the aim should be to find a good MBA program, work hard, and make the best use of the opportunity. PSW or not, if one deserves the best, he/she will get the best.
New UKBA rules
Posted Apr 13, 2011 13:23
Posted Apr 13, 2011 16:56
Now after the fresh UKBA visa modifications, its certain that job market in UK for non-UK/EU students will disappear.
Hence, pursuing an MBA program in UK seems to be a daunting prospect now.
Hence, pursuing an MBA program in UK seems to be a daunting prospect now.
Posted Apr 13, 2011 19:00
well well.....
isn't that quite a bold statement; predicting the outcome of the student visa changes as "certain" ?
I mean, even the experts in this field would refrain from describing the consequences of PSW closure as "certain". How do you substantiate your revelation?
isn't that quite a bold statement; predicting the outcome of the student visa changes as "certain" ?
I mean, even the experts in this field would refrain from describing the consequences of PSW closure as "certain". How do you substantiate your revelation?
Posted Apr 14, 2011 11:24
Its going to be relatively easier to get a suitable job in UK if one's job is listed in jobs shortage list of UKBA.
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/documents/workingintheuk/shortageoccupationlist.pdf
Moreover, under new rules the company has to be a sponsor to provide with certificate of sponsorship to migrant workers. To be a sponsor, the company has to undertake resident labor market test and also has to take permission from the local administrative council to operate their business in a particular area.
Now it seems that any company would have to strive very hard to employ migrant worker.
It would all depend on the company's desire to do so.
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/documents/workingintheuk/shortageoccupationlist.pdf
Moreover, under new rules the company has to be a sponsor to provide with certificate of sponsorship to migrant workers. To be a sponsor, the company has to undertake resident labor market test and also has to take permission from the local administrative council to operate their business in a particular area.
Now it seems that any company would have to strive very hard to employ migrant worker.
It would all depend on the company's desire to do so.
Posted Apr 14, 2011 13:05
now, do you know that the students taking up a course this year, and subsequently graduating next year can be employed by companies without having to take the Resident Labour Market Test. News to you?
I am sure that makes you feel a little optimistic about the situation in UK :)
I am sure that makes you feel a little optimistic about the situation in UK :)
Posted Apr 14, 2011 13:52
Please see this link : http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/employers/points/sponsoringmigrants/employingmigrants/residentlabourmarkettest/#header2
The resident labor market test has to be taken by the companies willing to employ migrants, and not by the students.
What is the evidence you have to prove that resident labor market test is scrapped??
The resident labor market test has to be taken by the companies willing to employ migrants, and not by the students.
What is the evidence you have to prove that resident labor market test is scrapped??
Posted Apr 14, 2011 14:01
I quote from the UKBA website regarding fresh rules on resident labor market test :
"RESIDENT LABOUR MARKET TEST - TIER 2
You can only recruit a migrant from outside the settled workforce if:244.
you have completed the resident labour market test (where appropriate) and can show ? that no suitably qualified settled worker is available to fill the job; or
the job is exempt from the resident labour market test.?
You must have advertised the vacancy as set out in this guidance and in the code of 245. practice specific to the type of job. This includes mandatory advertising in Jobcentre Plus (or in Northern Ireland, JobCentre Online) for jobs under Tier 2 (General), plus one other advertising method permitted by the relevant code of practice. The codes of practice can be found on our website at http://ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/documents/employersandsponsors/pointsbasedsystem/nvq3-cop/ for S/NVQ level 3 jobs and at http://ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/documents/employersandsponsors/pointsbasedsystem/graduate-cop/ for graduate level jobs. If there is no code of practice for the job/sector you are looking for at the time of advertising, you must still advertise the job using Jobcentre Plus (or in Northern Ireland, JobCentre Online).
All vacancies must be advertised to settled workers for 28 calendar days. You can 246. choose to do this in one of two ways:
Advertise the vacancy for a single continuous period, with a minimum closing date of 28 ? calendar days from the date the advertisement first appeared; or
Advertise the vacancy in two stages with each stage of the vacancy being advertised for ? no less than 7 calendar days but where both stages added together total a minimum of 28 calendar days. For example, you could initially advertise the vacancy for 14 calendar days. If a suitable settled worker is identified, you can appoint them straight away.
Tier 2 and 5 Sponsor Guidance page 36 of 89
However, if no suitable settled worker is identified, you cannot appoint a migrant worker who applies at this stage. You must advertise the vacancy for a further 14 days, making 28 calendar days in total. If no suitable settled workers are identified during either the first or second stage, then the resident labour market test has been passed and you can appoint a Tier 2 migrant."
please also go through this link :
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/documents/employersandsponsors/pbsguidance/guidancefrom31mar09/guidance-t25-from-060411.pdf?view=Binary
"RESIDENT LABOUR MARKET TEST - TIER 2
You can only recruit a migrant from outside the settled workforce if:244.
you have completed the resident labour market test (where appropriate) and can show ? that no suitably qualified settled worker is available to fill the job; or
the job is exempt from the resident labour market test.?
You must have advertised the vacancy as set out in this guidance and in the code of 245. practice specific to the type of job. This includes mandatory advertising in Jobcentre Plus (or in Northern Ireland, JobCentre Online) for jobs under Tier 2 (General), plus one other advertising method permitted by the relevant code of practice. The codes of practice can be found on our website at http://ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/documents/employersandsponsors/pointsbasedsystem/nvq3-cop/ for S/NVQ level 3 jobs and at http://ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/documents/employersandsponsors/pointsbasedsystem/graduate-cop/ for graduate level jobs. If there is no code of practice for the job/sector you are looking for at the time of advertising, you must still advertise the job using Jobcentre Plus (or in Northern Ireland, JobCentre Online).
All vacancies must be advertised to settled workers for 28 calendar days. You can 246. choose to do this in one of two ways:
Advertise the vacancy for a single continuous period, with a minimum closing date of 28 ? calendar days from the date the advertisement first appeared; or
Advertise the vacancy in two stages with each stage of the vacancy being advertised for ? no less than 7 calendar days but where both stages added together total a minimum of 28 calendar days. For example, you could initially advertise the vacancy for 14 calendar days. If a suitable settled worker is identified, you can appoint them straight away.
Tier 2 and 5 Sponsor Guidance page 36 of 89
However, if no suitable settled worker is identified, you cannot appoint a migrant worker who applies at this stage. You must advertise the vacancy for a further 14 days, making 28 calendar days in total. If no suitable settled workers are identified during either the first or second stage, then the resident labour market test has been passed and you can appoint a Tier 2 migrant."
please also go through this link :
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/documents/employersandsponsors/pbsguidance/guidancefrom31mar09/guidance-t25-from-060411.pdf?view=Binary
Posted Apr 14, 2011 14:04
Changes to the Tier 2&5 Guidance for Sponsors Effective from 6 April 2011 can be found at :
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/documents/employersandsponsors/pbsguidance/guidancefrom31mar09/t25-changes-from-060411.pdf?view=Binary
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/documents/employersandsponsors/pbsguidance/guidancefrom31mar09/t25-changes-from-060411.pdf?view=Binary
Posted Apr 14, 2011 14:08
DUH!
"companies without having to take the Resident Labour Market Test" ..... (does not mean that students have to take the test)
....and the Resident Labour Market Test is for the employers wherein they need to certify that the position for which they have hired an international migrant could not be filled by a UK/EU resident.
for confirmation of it being waived, here you go:
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/documents/news/sop4.pdf
"companies without having to take the Resident Labour Market Test" ..... (does not mean that students have to take the test)
....and the Resident Labour Market Test is for the employers wherein they need to certify that the position for which they have hired an international migrant could not be filled by a UK/EU resident.
for confirmation of it being waived, here you go:
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/documents/news/sop4.pdf
Posted Apr 14, 2011 14:12
go to the last page of the link (under PSW)..... (and what thesis have you posted, it is not even relevant to the issue of Resident Labour Market Test) Relax mate!
Posted Apr 14, 2011 15:26
Dude.....Read it carefully. I feel there is a disconnect between your eyes and mind!!
The first page clearly states : "The measures outlined in this Statement should not be seen as a definitive account of the requirements that will apply in future. The definitive version
will be set out in the Immigration Rules and
published formal Guidance for Tier 4 sponsors and
applicants. The Statement does, however, represent
the Government?s current intentions."
The UKBA clearly states in its new rules and I quote
"A resident labour market test is not required where a migrant currently has permission to stay in the UK under:
Tier 1 (Post-study work); or
? the International Graduates Scheme; or
? the Fresh Talent Working in Scotland Scheme; or
? the Science and Engineering Graduates Scheme; and
? they are switching into Tier 2 (General), to do the same job they are already employed
? to do immediately before the date of application, with the same employer, and they have been employed in the UK for a continuous period of at least six months with the same employer immediately prior to the application being made. (The migrant does not have to be in the same job for the full 6 months). The only exception to this 6 month rule is where a migrant has been absent due to:
a period of maternity, paternity or adoption leave; or
? a period of long-term sick leave that lasted for one month or longer."
Reference : http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/documents/employersandsponsors/pbsguidance/
This is the most recent update on 13-APR-2011.
The first page clearly states : "The measures outlined in this Statement should not be seen as a definitive account of the requirements that will apply in future. The definitive version
will be set out in the Immigration Rules and
published formal Guidance for Tier 4 sponsors and
applicants. The Statement does, however, represent
the Government?s current intentions."
The UKBA clearly states in its new rules and I quote
"A resident labour market test is not required where a migrant currently has permission to stay in the UK under:
Tier 1 (Post-study work); or
? the International Graduates Scheme; or
? the Fresh Talent Working in Scotland Scheme; or
? the Science and Engineering Graduates Scheme; and
? they are switching into Tier 2 (General), to do the same job they are already employed
? to do immediately before the date of application, with the same employer, and they have been employed in the UK for a continuous period of at least six months with the same employer immediately prior to the application being made. (The migrant does not have to be in the same job for the full 6 months). The only exception to this 6 month rule is where a migrant has been absent due to:
a period of maternity, paternity or adoption leave; or
? a period of long-term sick leave that lasted for one month or longer."
Reference : http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/documents/employersandsponsors/pbsguidance/
This is the most recent update on 13-APR-2011.
Posted Apr 14, 2011 16:00
First thing, hold your opinions to yourself.
By commenting about me, *disconnect between eyes and mind*, you actually proved what sort of an uncivilized person you really are.
I am here to seek and share information, debate about it, and arrive at informed decisions. Not to indulge in arguments.
End of debate, Period.
By commenting about me, *disconnect between eyes and mind*, you actually proved what sort of an uncivilized person you really are.
I am here to seek and share information, debate about it, and arrive at informed decisions. Not to indulge in arguments.
End of debate, Period.
Posted Apr 14, 2011 19:54
FYI
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/documents/news/summary-student-policy.pdf
Last Section, PSW.
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/documents/news/summary-student-policy.pdf
Last Section, PSW.
Posted Sep 07, 2011 07:51
hey guys,
i'm probably late in the discussion...but i've accepted my offer to the nottingham business school in the uk this year..with all these rules changing going around..i would like to get some advice on the fact that how difficult can it be to land up with a job in the uk after all these changes.
thanks
kunal
i'm probably late in the discussion...but i've accepted my offer to the nottingham business school in the uk this year..with all these rules changing going around..i would like to get some advice on the fact that how difficult can it be to land up with a job in the uk after all these changes.
thanks
kunal
Posted Sep 07, 2011 20:21
highly advisable to stay away from UK B Schools for non EU applicants - without a certainty of a work permit / JOB - u don't want to end up - leaving your current job - taking up a study loan and returning back to your home country - UNEMPLOYED !! - that too after one years of hard work.........
Stakes are too high to take a risk - till all matters are clear in BOLD / Black & White - head for other shores and leave the UK alone.
Stakes are too high to take a risk - till all matters are clear in BOLD / Black & White - head for other shores and leave the UK alone.
Posted Sep 10, 2011 06:28
Post-Study Work
? The current Post-Study Work route will be closed from April 2012....
guys how do you interpret this? it means that those who are going for their mba program in september 2011 they are eligible for the post study work visa...correct me if i am wrong :-(?
? The current Post-Study Work route will be closed from April 2012....
guys how do you interpret this? it means that those who are going for their mba program in september 2011 they are eligible for the post study work visa...correct me if i am wrong :-(?
Posted Sep 21, 2011 22:02
It's often hard to wade through British bureaucracy - but, I think that it means that the current post-work study visa system is coming to an end - and that, in its place, students will have to apply for a standard work visa in tier 2, which has more stringent requirements.
Post-Study Work
? The current Post-Study Work route will be closed from April 2012....
guys how do you interpret this? it means that those who are going for their mba program in september 2011 they are eligible for the post study work visa...correct me if i am wrong :-(?
<blockquote>Post-Study Work
? The current Post-Study Work route will be closed from April 2012....
guys how do you interpret this? it means that those who are going for their mba program in september 2011 they are eligible for the post study work visa...correct me if i am wrong :-(?</blockquote>
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