Canfield SOM vs Aston vs Strathclyde for MSc Management


ajay001
Hi ,
I am 24 years of age and have 2.5 years of experience in Software industry. I am looking to do masters in management from the UK.
I am from India and my priorities are to get into a business school with good reputation which can offer good job prospects after graduation. I wish to get a management consultancy job in the UK after graduation.

I have the following offers right now,

Cranfield SOM - MSc Management
It is not ranked in Financial times MIM rankings, but I applied here because of the schools reputation. Also this is a new course so it is difficult to get any feedback.

Aston - MSc International Business.
Not ranked in FT 2014 MIM ranking but was consistently ranked high till last year.

Strathclyde - MBM
Seems to be a great course but the schools reputation is not too high.

Durham - Msc Management.
Great university, but the business school does not seem to be very established.

Also I would like to know about the current JOB situation for International students in the UK. I know it will be challenging but I have heard very scary things regarding the job prospects for Indians.

Please advise.

Thanks.
Hi ,
I am 24 years of age and have 2.5 years of experience in Software industry. I am looking to do masters in management from the UK.
I am from India and my priorities are to get into a business school with good reputation which can offer good job prospects after graduation. I wish to get a management consultancy job in the UK after graduation.

I have the following offers right now,

Cranfield SOM - MSc Management
It is not ranked in Financial times MIM rankings, but I applied here because of the schools reputation. Also this is a new course so it is difficult to get any feedback.

Aston - MSc International Business.
Not ranked in FT 2014 MIM ranking but was consistently ranked high till last year.

Strathclyde - MBM
Seems to be a great course but the schools reputation is not too high.

Durham - Msc Management.
Great university, but the business school does not seem to be very established.

Also I would like to know about the current JOB situation for International students in the UK. I know it will be challenging but I have heard very scary things regarding the job prospects for Indians.

Please advise.

Thanks.
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Mamit
the job situation was certainly poor in UK but the things have started to look up so I believe by the time you graduate you would have job opportunities to explore. Also, a lot depends on your individual profile, how well you develop your links in UK & obviously your performance in your master's.
the job situation was certainly poor in UK but the things have started to look up so I believe by the time you graduate you would have job opportunities to explore. Also, a lot depends on your individual profile, how well you develop your links in UK & obviously your performance in your master's.
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ajay001
Thanks for your reply Mamit, could you please also advise me regarding the school that I should choose.
I have just received an offer from Cass business school, for MSc Management.
Which is better Cranfield or Cass ? If I go by FT rankings, Cass is the clear winner.

Also I have offers from Strathclyde, Aston and Durham.

Thanks.

Thanks for your reply Mamit, could you please also advise me regarding the school that I should choose.
I have just received an offer from Cass business school, for MSc Management.
Which is better Cranfield or Cass ? If I go by FT rankings, Cass is the clear winner.

Also I have offers from Strathclyde, Aston and Durham.

Thanks.
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ralph
From the Cass career report, it looks like the program has reasonable placements in consultancies: almost one-third of the most recent class went into the field. I don't think that Cranfield publishes a placement report for its MSc programs; perhaps ask them about their placements in the field and then compare.
From the Cass career report, it looks like the program has reasonable placements in consultancies: almost one-third of the most recent class went into the field. I don't think that Cranfield publishes a placement report for its MSc programs; perhaps ask them about their placements in the field and then compare.
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ajay001
Yes I saw career report for Cass Msc Management and they have 'Ok' placements, but Cranfield's program is new and not really established. I don't think they have a great placement record , I also spoke to few of the current students there and they did not really encourage me to join the program.

Bottom line, I know the Cass's program is academically very rigorous and I like that, but I wish to understand whether Cass is reputed globally to an extent that if I don't get a job in the UK, will a degree from Cass business school be recognized internationally and help me get 'GOOD' job.

Also please advise whether I should not consider Strathclyde, Aston and Durham at all when compared to Cass.

Thanks.
Yes I saw career report for Cass Msc Management and they have 'Ok' placements, but Cranfield's program is new and not really established. I don't think they have a great placement record , I also spoke to few of the current students there and they did not really encourage me to join the program.

Bottom line, I know the Cass's program is academically very rigorous and I like that, but I wish to understand whether Cass is reputed globally to an extent that if I don't get a job in the UK, will a degree from Cass business school be recognized internationally and help me get 'GOOD' job.

Also please advise whether I should not consider Strathclyde, Aston and Durham at all when compared to Cass.

Thanks.
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Duncan
Don't the FT MSc rankings show that Cranfield has amazing placement?
Don't the FT MSc rankings show that Cranfield has amazing placement?
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ajay001
Cranfield Msc Management is not ranked in FT, its a new course(in its 2nd year).
Cranfield Msc Management is not ranked in FT, its a new course(in its 2nd year).
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Duncan
The MSc in management and finance is such a strong performer that I struggle to think that the MiM will not also be successful. Unless you're focussed on finance or shipping, then won't Cranfield be a better school?
The MSc in management and finance is such a strong performer that I struggle to think that the MiM will not also be successful. Unless you're focussed on finance or shipping, then won't Cranfield be a better school?
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ajay001
Duncan,
Looking at the FT rankings for MIM, Cass is placed 3rd in the UK where as Cranfield is not ranked at all. Should I take the risk of going for a new course and does Cranfield has a higher reputation(majorly among employers) than Cass ?

If I compare them ,
Cranfield Cass
1.FT Ranking Not ranked 24(also ranked 10th in international mobility)
2.Location not the best London advantage. (more jobs ?)
3.Cost 22000 20000
4.Reputation not sure not sure (need hlep on this)
5.International not sure not sure (need hlep on this)
job opportunities.

Cass looks better from most of the angles, but I am not sure about the international reputation of both, which is better if I decide to work in my country (India) instead of UK.

Also should I focus only on Cranfield and Cass or should I also look at other offers that I have ? (Stathclyde, Aston, Durham)

Please help !

Duncan,
Looking at the FT rankings for MIM, Cass is placed 3rd in the UK where as Cranfield is not ranked at all. Should I take the risk of going for a new course and does Cranfield has a higher reputation(majorly among employers) than Cass ?

If I compare them ,
Cranfield Cass
1.FT Ranking Not ranked 24(also ranked 10th in international mobility)
2.Location not the best London advantage. (more jobs ?)
3.Cost 22000 20000
4.Reputation not sure not sure (need hlep on this)
5.International not sure not sure (need hlep on this)
job opportunities.

Cass looks better from most of the angles, but I am not sure about the international reputation of both, which is better if I decide to work in my country (India) instead of UK.

Also should I focus only on Cranfield and Cass or should I also look at other offers that I have ? (Stathclyde, Aston, Durham)

Please help !
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Duncan
I think you should weigh up all the options. Reputation really flows from the alumni network, so take a look at: How to use LinkedIn to find the best school www.find-mba.com/board/33571

I have no idea what your goals are. Cass is probably the safer choice for most students. As a business school, it is similar is standing to Cranfield. Cass is especially strong for finance and shipping.
I think you should weigh up all the options. Reputation really flows from the alumni network, so take a look at: How to use LinkedIn to find the best school www.find-mba.com/board/33571

I have no idea what your goals are. Cass is probably the safer choice for most students. As a business school, it is similar is standing to Cranfield. Cass is especially strong for finance and shipping.
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Razors Edg...
Since Cass has strong-ish placements in the consultancy field, plus the fact that the Cranfield program is so new -- Cass seems to be a good choice. Not sure how you'd fare if you did decide to go back to India, though.

One thing I'd advise would be to try to get in touch with alumni from each program who are not from the EU and are currently working in management consultancies. They could give you good info on the process, and how they made the shift successfully.
Since Cass has strong-ish placements in the consultancy field, plus the fact that the Cranfield program is so new -- Cass seems to be a good choice. Not sure how you'd fare if you did decide to go back to India, though.

One thing I'd advise would be to try to get in touch with alumni from each program who are not from the EU and are currently working in management consultancies. They could give you good info on the process, and how they made the shift successfully.
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@ajay001
Hi i also got the offer from Cranfield Msc Management, and still struggle between Bath & Cranfield.
I read the your comments of this course, that the current students did not encourage you to join the program, could you share their comments with me please?(you can send me via private message) I need to decide the final school by mid-Jan.
Thanks so much!!!
@ajay001
Hi i also got the offer from Cranfield Msc Management, and still struggle between Bath & Cranfield.
I read the your comments of this course, that the current students did not encourage you to join the program, could you share their comments with me please?(you can send me via private message) I need to decide the final school by mid-Jan.
Thanks so much!!!
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Razors Edg...
My sense is that since the Cranfield program is so new, it's hard to get an accurate sense of the program's value. However, it's a great business school and its MiF program is ranked strongly, which is a good proxy indicator.

The Bath program is indeed ranked, and would probably be a good choice, but its FT-reported average salary - £36,900 - is one of the lowest of all the UK schools in the ranking. Average salary at LBS, for instance, is almost twice that.
My sense is that since the Cranfield program is so new, it's hard to get an accurate sense of the program's value. However, it's a great business school and its MiF program is ranked strongly, which is a good proxy indicator.

The Bath program is indeed ranked, and would probably be a good choice, but its FT-reported average salary - £36,900 - is one of the lowest of all the UK schools in the ranking. Average salary at LBS, for instance, is almost twice that.
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