MSc. or MBA? UK or Europe?


DeenZ

I appreciate your feedback on this..

I have a degree in Electronics Engineering but strayed after graduation and worked in the digital marketing field, currently I am a Senior Sales Executive / Account Manager with a 5 year experience.

The reasons I want to get a PG degree are:
1. Be able to be in a managerial position.
2. Enhance my experience with an academic background.
3. Enhance my chances of working in an international company.
4. International Experience

My budget is between 10-15k EUR.

I was offered a place in CEU - Hungary, but I was wondering that since that I am a non-EU citizen, would it be of any value when I come back home or look for a job elsewhere in the middle east?

I realize that CEU is an average MBA. My question is, would it be better to get an MSc. from a UK university (where the name of a UK university would polish my CV regardless of the name of the university), or get an MBA from a university that is not recognized in the region from a country not that known for their business schools.

For example, if I apply to study MSc, Intl Business Management at Aberystwyth Uni, would that be better than getting the CEU MBA? I don't want to end up with "fresh grads" in the masters program as I am 32 years old, but at the same time I do not want come back home with an MBA that no one acknowledges.
Also, studying in an English speaking country might increase my chances of getting a job there.

The MBAs in the UK that I can afford were labeled by Duncan on this forum as "a bad investment".

PS. Getting an MBA in my own country is out of the question at the moment as I would really appreciate the international exposure, and also, I would rather study FT rather than PT.

I appreciate your feedback on this..

I have a degree in Electronics Engineering but strayed after graduation and worked in the digital marketing field, currently I am a Senior Sales Executive / Account Manager with a 5 year experience.

The reasons I want to get a PG degree are:
1. Be able to be in a managerial position.
2. Enhance my experience with an academic background.
3. Enhance my chances of working in an international company.
4. International Experience

My budget is between 10-15k EUR.

I was offered a place in CEU - Hungary, but I was wondering that since that I am a non-EU citizen, would it be of any value when I come back home or look for a job elsewhere in the middle east?

I realize that CEU is an average MBA. My question is, would it be better to get an MSc. from a UK university (where the name of a UK university would polish my CV regardless of the name of the university), or get an MBA from a university that is not recognized in the region from a country not that known for their business schools.

For example, if I apply to study MSc, Intl Business Management at Aberystwyth Uni, would that be better than getting the CEU MBA? I don't want to end up with "fresh grads" in the masters program as I am 32 years old, but at the same time I do not want come back home with an MBA that no one acknowledges.
Also, studying in an English speaking country might increase my chances of getting a job there.

The MBAs in the UK that I can afford were labeled by Duncan on this forum as "a bad investment".

PS. Getting an MBA in my own country is out of the question at the moment as I would really appreciate the international exposure, and also, I would rather study FT rather than PT.
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Duncan

I think the CEU MBA is probably the best choice.

Some MSc options: http://www.mastersportal.eu/students/search-results/?params=VYxRDoIwEAXvsidoISq-HoZUuiGbYDHtYmIId7crX36-mZeJGLBX3EGFZ1nzKImCwIeKK2gtMkumc-Q1M0cb3oGS1Elei2S2f9cb7kF1e_ybYWjmBtJNtPV_8Ytz7qSJ58JcKUR47ALDrfKsE4WjFX0r6pY-Y9VY1G4Ou4kOFBflkqPK-wyYOb4%253Dza2d92637&start=0&length=10&order_by=tuition_noneea&order_direction=desc
Master of Marketing, Communication and New Media - ALMA
Marketing (M.Sc.) - University of Birmingham
Management and Marketing (M.Sc.) - Lancaster University
International Marketing (M.Sc.) - University of Strathclyde Business School
Innovation, Strategy and Entrepreneurship (M.Sc.) - Grenoble Ecole de Management
MSc in Marketing Practice (M.Sc.) - UCD Michael Smurfit Graduate Business School

That last one is my favourite, but you might be too old for it.

I think the CEU MBA is probably the best choice.

Some MSc options: http://www.mastersportal.eu/students/search-results/?params=VYxRDoIwEAXvsidoISq-HoZUuiGbYDHtYmIId7crX36-mZeJGLBX3EGFZ1nzKImCwIeKK2gtMkumc-Q1M0cb3oGS1Elei2S2f9cb7kF1e_ybYWjmBtJNtPV_8Ytz7qSJ58JcKUR47ALDrfKsE4WjFX0r6pY-Y9VY1G4Ou4kOFBflkqPK-wyYOb4%253Dza2d92637&start=0&length=10&order_by=tuition_noneea&order_direction=desc
Master of Marketing, Communication and New Media - ALMA
Marketing (M.Sc.) - University of Birmingham
Management and Marketing (M.Sc.) - Lancaster University
International Marketing (M.Sc.) - University of Strathclyde Business School
Innovation, Strategy and Entrepreneurship (M.Sc.) - Grenoble Ecole de Management
MSc in Marketing Practice (M.Sc.) - UCD Michael Smurfit Graduate Business School

That last one is my favourite, but you might be too old for it.
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DeenZ

Thank you Dunacan, I really appreciate your feedback.

Just to clarify, would an MBA from Hungary still be a better choice than a MSc. from the UK?

Thank you Dunacan, I really appreciate your feedback.

Just to clarify, would an MBA from Hungary still be a better choice than a MSc. from the UK?
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Duncan

That really depends on your career goals. The MBA will be better educationally at CEU but it is not well known outside the region. An MSc from a top UK school will give you more brand equity but you will have a lot of freshers.

That really depends on your career goals. The MBA will be better educationally at CEU but it is not well known outside the region. An MSc from a top UK school will give you more brand equity but you will have a lot of freshers.
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shewta

That really depends on your career goals. The MBA will be better educationally at CEU but it is not well known outside the region. An MSc from a top UK school will give you more brand equity but you will have a lot of freshers.


sir
i have herd only those are eligible for MSc in management who have degree in econoics or in commrce. Is it true???
If not then what is the eligibility criteron. is there any test like GMAT.

<blockquote>That really depends on your career goals. The MBA will be better educationally at CEU but it is not well known outside the region. An MSc from a top UK school will give you more brand equity but you will have a lot of freshers. </blockquote>

sir
i have herd only those are eligible for MSc in management who have degree in econoics or in commrce. Is it true???
If not then what is the eligibility criteron. is there any test like GMAT.
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Duncan

No, that is not true of most of them. Take a look at their websites. Some will ask for GMAT.

No, that is not true of most of them. Take a look at their websites. Some will ask for GMAT.
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shewta

No, that is not true of most of them. Take a look at their websites. Some will ask for GMAT.


ok sir. thanks alot.

<blockquote>No, that is not true of most of them. Take a look at their websites. Some will ask for GMAT. </blockquote>

ok sir. thanks alot.
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DeenZ

Dear Duncan,

As I was looking online, I came across the MBA at Anglia Ruskin Uni - Chelmsford- UK. It sounds good and within my budget (although 2 years not one year). But since living expenses will be eliminated (I have family living there), it might be an option.

My question is, compared to CEU, which degree is better ranked? (they're both AMBA accredited). CEU's entry requirements are higher in my opinion..

Can you please advise.

Dear Duncan,

As I was looking online, I came across the MBA at Anglia Ruskin Uni - Chelmsford- UK. It sounds good and within my budget (although 2 years not one year). But since living expenses will be eliminated (I have family living there), it might be an option.

My question is, compared to CEU, which degree is better ranked? (they're both AMBA accredited). CEU's entry requirements are higher in my opinion..

Can you please advise.
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Duncan

CEU is much better but it depends on your goals. I am amazed if ARU got AMBA accreditation.

CEU is much better but it depends on your goals. I am amazed if ARU got AMBA accreditation.
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DeenZ

Thank you for your feedback!

Another questions, how is CEU's MBA compared to the one TiasNimbas offers? the difference is 10k euros, is the difference in education worth the difference in fees?

Thank you for your feedback!

Another questions, how is CEU's MBA compared to the one TiasNimbas offers? the difference is 10k euros, is the difference in education worth the difference in fees?
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Duncan

The ARU MBA is not accredited: http://www.mbaworld.com/guidetomba1/searchbschoolmbaprogrammes It's not even the same structure at the two ARU campuses. And, jesus, of all the people to name your school after - Lord Ashcroft!!!

The outcomes at TiasNimbas will be different. It's a higher quality student body there, so the role will be better. The education will be better because the students will be better. I think CEU's very exciting, but it's rather regional school.

The ARU MBA is not accredited: http://www.mbaworld.com/guidetomba1/searchbschoolmbaprogrammes It's not even the same structure at the two ARU campuses. And, jesus, of all the people to name your school after - Lord Ashcroft!!!

The outcomes at TiasNimbas will be different. It's a higher quality student body there, so the role will be better. The education will be better because the students will be better. I think CEU's very exciting, but it's rather regional school.
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DeenZ

I just double checked their website, my bad, I misread the following sentence:

Our Anglia Ruskin MBA is accredited to the Association of Business Schools.

Lord Ashcroft must be a popular business figure in Chelmsford! Your comment cracked me up..

I just double checked their website, my bad, I misread the following sentence:

Our Anglia Ruskin MBA is accredited to the Association of Business Schools.

Lord Ashcroft must be a popular business figure in Chelmsford! Your comment cracked me up..
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Duncan

Goodness! That is not even English: "Our Anglia Ruskin MBA is accredited to the Association of Business Schools". It should be "by". However, it's also a lie: The ABS does not accredit business schools. Take a look at www.associationofbusinessschools.org The ABS is the lobbying organisation of state-recognised business schools in the UK. It doesn't accredit schools or courses. The ABS is a membership organisation of schools.

PS I've written to the ABS to ask.

PPS Just to be clear: the ABS is not the same as the AMBA, the UK-based body which accredits MBAs.

Goodness! That is not even English: "Our Anglia Ruskin MBA is accredited to the Association of Business Schools". It should be "by". However, it's also a lie: The ABS does not accredit business schools. Take a look at www.associationofbusinessschools.org The ABS is the lobbying organisation of state-recognised business schools in the UK. It doesn't accredit schools or courses. The ABS is a membership organisation of schools.

PS I've written to the ABS to ask.

PPS Just to be clear: the ABS is not the same as the AMBA, the UK-based body which accredits MBAs.
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ralph

Beyond Anglia Ruskin's lack of reputable accreditation, it's also a much different program than the CEU one, in that it's part-time and designed for working professionals. The CEU program is more for people who are looking for a change in their career or functional capacity, and have more need of career services and other benefits of a full-time program.

Ruskin Uni - Chelmsford- UK. It sounds good and within my budget (although 2 years not one year). But since living expenses will be eliminated (I have family living there), it might be an option.

My question is, compared to CEU, which degree is better ranked? (they're both AMBA accredited). CEU's entry requirements are higher in my opinion..

Beyond Anglia Ruskin's lack of reputable accreditation, it's also a much different program than the CEU one, in that it's part-time and designed for working professionals. The CEU program is more for people who are looking for a change in their career or functional capacity, and have more need of career services and other benefits of a full-time program.

<blockquote>Ruskin Uni - Chelmsford- UK. It sounds good and within my budget (although 2 years not one year). But since living expenses will be eliminated (I have family living there), it might be an option.

My question is, compared to CEU, which degree is better ranked? (they're both AMBA accredited). CEU's entry requirements are higher in my opinion..
</blockquote>
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