MBA concentration in Energy/commodities


Duncan

Where in the world would you like to work? Why would you like to study in the UK?

Where in the world would you like to work? Why would you like to study in the UK?
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kousikT

I would like to work in any part of the world with a nice pay.
I selected UK for the course duration (1year). i just need to know which is the best among the ones i have listed above. ranking them within the list would be more helpful. thanks.

I would like to work in any part of the world with a nice pay.
I selected UK for the course duration (1year). i just need to know which is the best among the ones i have listed above. ranking them within the list would be more helpful. thanks.
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Duncan

Well, I would only look at the MSc degrees, and I would rank them more or less in like with the universities general rankings. I would never recommend an unaccredited MBA. Why not try for an accredited MSc in management, if you want to be a manager?

Well, I would only look at the MSc degrees, and I would rank them more or less in like with the universities general rankings. I would never recommend an unaccredited MBA. Why not try for an accredited MSc in management, if you want to be a manager?
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kousikT

Though prospects after MSc is decent in UK, but again in rest of the world MBA is more acclaimed, isnt it?
I am from india and here MBA is the highest degree. also if i do a Msc it gives me a chance for doing a MBA after 5 6 yrs of work exp. why cant i do it directly. thats my idea

Though prospects after MSc is decent in UK, but again in rest of the world MBA is more acclaimed, isnt it?
I am from india and here MBA is the highest degree. also if i do a Msc it gives me a chance for doing a MBA after 5 6 yrs of work exp. why cant i do it directly. thats my idea
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Duncan

If you want to work in India, then take an Indian MBA. But in India you would try for the best MBA you could, not just any MBA.

It's the same in the rest of the world: there's a real understanding that a bad university is worse than a good university. An MSc from the LSE is worth much more than an MBA from a below-average university. If you want to work for a big company, then they know the difference between universities. Just compare the salaries that those MSc graduates get with what MBAs from weak universities get.

If you want to work in India, then take an Indian MBA. But in India you would try for the best MBA you could, not just any MBA.

It's the same in the rest of the world: there's a real understanding that a bad university is worse than a good university. An MSc from the LSE is worth much more than an MBA from a below-average university. If you want to work for a big company, then they know the difference between universities. Just compare the salaries that those MSc graduates get with what MBAs from weak universities get.
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StevenV

In general, I agree. Go for the better school. But most MScs are not designed to place you in a high-paid job. I have an MSc from the LSE, and it (by itself) did not really open any doors career-wise. Granted it was pre-experience and did was not really business-related. But still, you have to go out and "hustle" yourself more with a MSc to get a job.

Maybe it's different in a concentrated field like energy...

In general, I agree. Go for the better school. But most MScs are not designed to place you in a high-paid job. I have an MSc from the LSE, and it (by itself) did not really open any doors career-wise. Granted it was pre-experience and did was not really business-related. But still, you have to go out and "hustle" yourself more with a MSc to get a job.

Maybe it's different in a concentrated field like energy...
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Duncan

Hi Steven. Indeed, the point I am making is that someone with an MSc in business from a top school makes more than someone with an MBA in business from a weak schools. That is also the base for pre-experience degrees, as you can fee from the data: http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/masters-in-management-2011 Students from the best-paying pre-experience programmes are earning $60K to $100K -- not too different from the lowest-paying of the top 100 MBAs http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/global-mba-rankings-2011

Hi Steven. Indeed, the point I am making is that someone with an MSc in business from a top school makes more than someone with an MBA in business from a weak schools. That is also the base for pre-experience degrees, as you can fee from the data: http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/masters-in-management-2011 Students from the best-paying pre-experience programmes are earning $60K to $100K -- not too different from the lowest-paying of the top 100 MBAs http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/global-mba-rankings-2011
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StevenV

Hi Steven. Indeed, the point I am making is that someone with an MSc in business from a top school makes more than someone with an MBA in business from a weak schools.


Those must have been the really driven, career-focused 23-year-old MSc grads. All I know is that when I finished at LSE, I wasn't making anywhere near 100K. Maybe that's my own damn fault.

<blockquote>Hi Steven. Indeed, the point I am making is that someone with an MSc in business from a top school makes more than someone with an MBA in business from a weak schools. </blockquote>

Those must have been the really driven, career-focused 23-year-old MSc grads. All I know is that when I finished at LSE, I wasn't making anywhere near 100K. Maybe that's my own damn fault.
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Duncan

Well, I don't think there's anything especially great about earning any amount. And I am sure you made choices which were just as important to you as the choices taken by the CEMS students at the LSE. But those are the averages from the MSc in management; I am sure that most other MSc have lower employment rates and lower average salaries.

Well, I don't think there's anything especially great about earning any amount. And I am sure you made choices which were just as important to you as the choices taken by the CEMS students at the LSE. But those are the averages from the MSc in management; I am sure that most other MSc have lower employment rates and lower average salaries.
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Mr. Allan Scott can you please let me know how to ask for prospectus (hard copy) of oil and gas management (postgraduate studies) from dundee university.......

Also I m confused which university is specific to oil and gas management course in scotland is it Aberdeen University or Dundee University or Robert Gorden University???And which one you advise me to take for oil and gas management (hardcore).

And the last question can you please let me know about other oil and gasMBA or petroleum and energy MBA given by any colleges in ASIA (the best ones) excluding INIDA, PAKISTAN, BANGLADESH AND SRI LANKA!!

Thanks a lot!!!

Mr. Allan Scott can you please let me know how to ask for prospectus (hard copy) of oil and gas management (postgraduate studies) from dundee university.......

Also I m confused which university is specific to oil and gas management course in scotland is it Aberdeen University or Dundee University or Robert Gorden University???And which one you advise me to take for oil and gas management (hardcore).

And the last question can you please let me know about other oil and gasMBA or petroleum and energy MBA given by any colleges in ASIA (the best ones) excluding INIDA, PAKISTAN, BANGLADESH AND SRI LANKA!!

Thanks a lot!!!
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rguabs1

Dear Silveroblado,

I am not sure if Dundee have a hard copy but you can contact the admissions office at [email protected]

As I have said in the posts above here are the three main management courses:

Robert Gordon University have the following:
MBA Oil and Gas Management
MSc Energy Management (Upstream Oil and Gas)

Dundee University have
MBA Oil and Gas Management

Aberdeen University have
MSc Oil and Gas Enterprise Management

Robert Gordon University focus on upstream Oil and Gas management. Dundee University focus on economic, policy and the wider energy debate. Aberdeen University focus on science and technology in geology, geophysics and engineering, accounting and economics.

There are a number of programmes In China but start with China University of Petroleum (either Beijing or Huadong). Huadong is close to an area of Oil and Gas production. CPUP used to be the same institution but due to political reasons they split. In Malaysia your best bet is the UTP (University TeKnologi Petronas) who are developing a MSc Energy Management (perhaps with myself). Obviously in India look to UPES.

Please email me with details of how you expect to develop your career and I can offer more specific advice on which University to select rather than do this for the whole world to see. My email address is [email protected]

Regards,

Allan Scott
MBA Director
Robert Gordon University

Dear Silveroblado,

I am not sure if Dundee have a hard copy but you can contact the admissions office at [email protected]

As I have said in the posts above here are the three main management courses:

Robert Gordon University have the following:
MBA Oil and Gas Management
MSc Energy Management (Upstream Oil and Gas)

Dundee University have
MBA Oil and Gas Management

Aberdeen University have
MSc Oil and Gas Enterprise Management

Robert Gordon University focus on upstream Oil and Gas management. Dundee University focus on economic, policy and the wider energy debate. Aberdeen University focus on science and technology in geology, geophysics and engineering, accounting and economics.

There are a number of programmes In China but start with China University of Petroleum (either Beijing or Huadong). Huadong is close to an area of Oil and Gas production. CPUP used to be the same institution but due to political reasons they split. In Malaysia your best bet is the UTP (University TeKnologi Petronas) who are developing a MSc Energy Management (perhaps with myself). Obviously in India look to UPES.

Please email me with details of how you expect to develop your career and I can offer more specific advice on which University to select rather than do this for the whole world to see. My email address is [email protected]

Regards,

Allan Scott
MBA Director
Robert Gordon University
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Sir, Is it possible for you to let me know whom I can contact to in RGU to get a hard copy of prospectus for the oil and gas courses?!!tq

Sir, Is it possible for you to let me know whom I can contact to in RGU to get a hard copy of prospectus for the oil and gas courses?!!tq
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rguabs1

Dear Silveroblado,

The University no longer sends hard copies of prospectives as it has been on a strategy to reduce its carbon footprint. If you email me I will send you an electronic copy.

Regards,
Allan Scott
MBA Director
E: [email protected]

Dear Silveroblado,

The University no longer sends hard copies of prospectives as it has been on a strategy to reduce its carbon footprint. If you email me I will send you an electronic copy.

Regards,
Allan Scott
MBA Director
E: [email protected]
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Nash2012

Dear Allan,

I?m a prospective international student and I?m interested in the MBA Oil and Gas Management Degree at Aberdeen Business School ? The Robert Gordon University UK. I have developed a general understanding of your program from the information on your website and from your postings on this Discussion Board.

Apart from your program I?m also considering the MBA offered by the University of Alberta (Canada) with a deep specialization in Natural Resources, Energy & the Environment and the MBA offered by the University of Calgary (Canada) with a specialization in Global Energy Management & Sustainable Development.

Can you please be kind enough to let me know the differences between the three programs mentioned above?

I look forward to hearing from you.

Thanks & Regards,

Nash

Dear Allan,

I?m a prospective international student and I?m interested in the MBA Oil and Gas Management Degree at Aberdeen Business School ? The Robert Gordon University UK. I have developed a general understanding of your program from the information on your website and from your postings on this Discussion Board.

Apart from your program I?m also considering the MBA offered by the University of Alberta (Canada) with a deep specialization in Natural Resources, Energy & the Environment and the MBA offered by the University of Calgary (Canada) with a specialization in Global Energy Management & Sustainable Development.

Can you please be kind enough to let me know the differences between the three programs mentioned above?

I look forward to hearing from you.

Thanks & Regards,

Nash
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rguabs1

Dear Nash,

Sorry for the delay in responding I have been out of commission.

I will do my best to explain these courses but you would be best to speak with the programme directors from Alberta and Calgary.

University of Alberta - Natural Resources, Energy and the Environment.

This degree appears to have been developed to cater for the specific needs of working in the Canadian natural resources sector. The courses is delivered in an executive style in Edmonton and Fort McMurray.

It has a general education underpinning in finance, economics, ethics, people management and leadership.

You then do four specific modules on Energy Industry structure and analysis, environmental management, natural resources and energy law, natural resources and energy.

University of Calgary, Global Energy Management

This degree is an executive degree covering leadership, finance, economics, innovation and sustainability and strategy for the energy sector.

The sustainability component or the Masters in Sustainable Energy Development in this area is concerned with environmental issues, policy, strategy and law. The masters degree mirrors the activities taking place in the region and covers a wide range of energy related areas such as coal, nuclear, thermal, power, petroleum, natural gas.

Robert Gordon University, MBA Oil and Gas Management
This degree is concerned with management and strategy in an upstream Oil and Gas context.

Regards,

Allan Scott

MBA Director

Dear Nash,

Sorry for the delay in responding I have been out of commission.

I will do my best to explain these courses but you would be best to speak with the programme directors from Alberta and Calgary.

University of Alberta - Natural Resources, Energy and the Environment.

This degree appears to have been developed to cater for the specific needs of working in the Canadian natural resources sector. The courses is delivered in an executive style in Edmonton and Fort McMurray.

It has a general education underpinning in finance, economics, ethics, people management and leadership.

You then do four specific modules on Energy Industry structure and analysis, environmental management, natural resources and energy law, natural resources and energy.

University of Calgary, Global Energy Management

This degree is an executive degree covering leadership, finance, economics, innovation and sustainability and strategy for the energy sector.

The sustainability component or the Masters in Sustainable Energy Development in this area is concerned with environmental issues, policy, strategy and law. The masters degree mirrors the activities taking place in the region and covers a wide range of energy related areas such as coal, nuclear, thermal, power, petroleum, natural gas.

Robert Gordon University, MBA Oil and Gas Management
This degree is concerned with management and strategy in an upstream Oil and Gas context.

Regards,

Allan Scott

MBA Director
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rguabs1

Dear Sir/Madam,
The living expenses for a year in Aberdeen are as follows:

University accommodation £4,000 to £4,500
Essential Costs (e.g, food) £2,000
Books £350
Personal expenses and travel £1,500 to £2,000

Total living expenses are around £8,000 to £8,500

Regards,

Allan Scott

MBA Director

http://www.rgu.ac.uk/mba

Dear Sir/Madam,
The living expenses for a year in Aberdeen are as follows:

University accommodation £4,000 to £4,500
Essential Costs (e.g, food) £2,000
Books £350
Personal expenses and travel £1,500 to £2,000

Total living expenses are around £8,000 to £8,500

Regards,

Allan Scott

MBA Director

http://www.rgu.ac.uk/mba
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Hi,
Mr. Allan
I myself done my mechanical engineering in 2008 from NIT (National Institute of technology) and then joined Hindustan petroleum corporation ltd (oil &gas )as Technical design engineer, I have an experience of 4 yrs. As I am having oil and gas experience, I am very much keen to do MBA in oil and gas management . On the same I have few queries
1) Considering my work profile doing MBA (O&G management) OR MSC (Energy sector ) which will be more appropriate in energy sector and what is the difference between above mentioned course.

2) For expatriates After doing MBA and considering my working profile portfolio can I get a good job.??

3) Does university assist expatriates to get part time jobs ??

Hi,
Mr. Allan
I myself done my mechanical engineering in 2008 from NIT (National Institute of technology) and then joined Hindustan petroleum corporation ltd (oil &gas )as Technical design engineer, I have an experience of 4 yrs. As I am having oil and gas experience, I am very much keen to do MBA in oil and gas management . On the same I have few queries
1) Considering my work profile doing MBA (O&G management) OR MSC (Energy sector ) which will be more appropriate in energy sector and what is the difference between above mentioned course.

2) For expatriates After doing MBA and considering my working profile portfolio can I get a good job.??

3) Does university assist expatriates to get part time jobs ??
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mr allan .i am a bachelor of commerce graduate with an elective in oil and gas finance and management.i have no work experience but want to a postgraduate in oil and gas accounting and finance...... What programs would you recommend and also what schools........

mr allan .i am a bachelor of commerce graduate with an elective in oil and gas finance and management.i have no work experience but want to a postgraduate in oil and gas accounting and finance...... What programs would you recommend and also what schools........
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Duncan

He might recommend the MSc programme at his own school: http://www.rgu.ac.uk/business-management-and-accounting/study-options/distance-and-flexible-learning/energy-management

He might recommend the MSc programme at his own school: http://www.rgu.ac.uk/business-management-and-accounting/study-options/distance-and-flexible-learning/energy-management
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rguabs1

Dear nenelartey,

There are a number of options open to you but it depends on what aspect of energy finance you are intending to pursue. Yes, there are a few programmes on Oil and Gas Accounting. Google the term "Oil and Gas Accounting Masters Degree". There are a few energy taxation degrees such as the MTax at the University of Tulsa. If you have a more economics slant then you will have a choice of degrees around the world including the Masters of Natural Resource Economics and MSc Oil and Gas Economics at the Curtin University in Australia.

In Scotland Aberdeen, Abertay and Robert Gordon Universities all offer a MSc Oil and Gas Accounting.

The big question for you is will these programmes make you a qualified accountant - please check this if it is necessary.

Regards,

Allan Scott
MBA Director
Robert Gordon University

Dear nenelartey,

There are a number of options open to you but it depends on what aspect of energy finance you are intending to pursue. Yes, there are a few programmes on Oil and Gas Accounting. Google the term "Oil and Gas Accounting Masters Degree". There are a few energy taxation degrees such as the MTax at the University of Tulsa. If you have a more economics slant then you will have a choice of degrees around the world including the Masters of Natural Resource Economics and MSc Oil and Gas Economics at the Curtin University in Australia.

In Scotland Aberdeen, Abertay and Robert Gordon Universities all offer a MSc Oil and Gas Accounting.

The big question for you is will these programmes make you a qualified accountant - please check this if it is necessary.

Regards,

Allan Scott
MBA Director
Robert Gordon University
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