How good is Cranfield University? Why is it unheard of by Europeans?


Most of the people I talked to havent heard of the school. Is it a good university? Is it prestigious? Is it a better brand than Warwick? Why are the entry requirements so low in comparison to Warwick for their masters?

Most of the people I talked to havent heard of the school. Is it a good university? Is it prestigious? Is it a better brand than Warwick? Why are the entry requirements so low in comparison to Warwick for their masters?
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Duncan

Cranfield is as well-known as similarly-ranked business schools like Audencia and Antwerp. Most people you have spoken to might not know know them, or even far better business schools like HSG or EDHEC, which can be more highly ranked than Warwick. That is because many strong business schools are not part of famous, full-service universities focused on undergraduate teaching. See, for example, most of the top 20 at http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/european-business-school-rankings-2019

PS Fundamentally you have to choose: Do you want a business school that will help you most with the employers that most business schools students are targetting, or a school in a university whose name will impress people you know? For example, would you pick Cranfield over Kings College London?

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Cranfield is as well-known as similarly-ranked business schools like Audencia and Antwerp. Most people you have spoken to might not know know them, or even far better business schools like HSG or EDHEC, which can be more highly ranked than Warwick. That is because many strong business schools are not part of famous, full-service universities focused on undergraduate teaching. See, for example, most of the top 20 at http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/european-business-school-rankings-2019

PS Fundamentally you have to choose: Do you want a business school that will help you most with the employers that most business schools students are targetting, or a school in a university whose name will impress people you know? For example, would you pick Cranfield over Kings College London?
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Cranfield is as well-known as similarly-ranked business schools like Audencia and Antwerp. Most people you have spoken to might not know know them, or even far better business schools like HSG or EDHEC, which can be more highly ranked than Warwick. That is because many strong business schools are not part of famous, full-service universities focused on undergraduate teaching. See, for example, most of the top 20 at http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/european-business-school-rankings-2019

PS Fundamentally you have to choose: Do you want a business school that will help you most with the employers that most business schools students are targetting, or a school in a university whose name will impress people you know? For example, would you pick Cranfield over Kings College London?

According to you would Cranfield be a better school than Warwick or Manchester? How would you rank the following in terms of employer reputation? Cranfield, Warwick, bocconi, UCD Smurfit, skema, em Lyon.
I know that the ft rankings are the best out there but the general perception differs a lot. I know a lot of people at JP Morgan and bulge brackets working in investment banking and trading in Europe and many of them tell me that they have never heard of a school like skema even though it does well on the rankings. Whereas Warwick and bocconi have a lot of graduates working in banking. The rankings also rank bocconi over Insead and I know bocconi grads who would actually choose Insead over bocconi. Same for Essec and Skema grads who would choose MIT over a master's in finance from the former schools. I was reading an article about how some skema grads also go into cash management. On the other hand MIT is lower ranked on the FT master in finance ranking and I doubt any MIT grad would go into cash management. Similarly, the admission requirements for some of the lower ranked schools are way higher than the higher ranked ones.
Lastly, for an Indian student would you recommend the UCD Smurfit, Cranfield, Warwick, skema or trinity college Dublin? My aim is to work in consulting at any of the Big 4. There seem to be a lot of indian students in all the mentioned schools and most of them seem to have gotten jobs in no name companies in Bangalore and Mumbai upon graduation according to the LinkedIn profiles

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[quote]Cranfield is as well-known as similarly-ranked business schools like Audencia and Antwerp. Most people you have spoken to might not know know them, or even far better business schools like HSG or EDHEC, which can be more highly ranked than Warwick. That is because many strong business schools are not part of famous, full-service universities focused on undergraduate teaching. See, for example, most of the top 20 at http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/european-business-school-rankings-2019

PS Fundamentally you have to choose: Do you want a business school that will help you most with the employers that most business schools students are targetting, or a school in a university whose name will impress people you know? For example, would you pick Cranfield over Kings College London?[/quote]
According to you would Cranfield be a better school than Warwick or Manchester? How would you rank the following in terms of employer reputation? Cranfield, Warwick, bocconi, UCD Smurfit, skema, em Lyon.
I know that the ft rankings are the best out there but the general perception differs a lot. I know a lot of people at JP Morgan and bulge brackets working in investment banking and trading in Europe and many of them tell me that they have never heard of a school like skema even though it does well on the rankings. Whereas Warwick and bocconi have a lot of graduates working in banking. The rankings also rank bocconi over Insead and I know bocconi grads who would actually choose Insead over bocconi. Same for Essec and Skema grads who would choose MIT over a master's in finance from the former schools. I was reading an article about how some skema grads also go into cash management. On the other hand MIT is lower ranked on the FT master in finance ranking and I doubt any MIT grad would go into cash management. Similarly, the admission requirements for some of the lower ranked schools are way higher than the higher ranked ones.
Lastly, for an Indian student would you recommend the UCD Smurfit, Cranfield, Warwick, skema or trinity college Dublin? My aim is to work in consulting at any of the Big 4. There seem to be a lot of indian students in all the mentioned schools and most of them seem to have gotten jobs in no name companies in Bangalore and Mumbai upon graduation according to the LinkedIn profiles
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Duncan

These are more questions than I have time for right now. Consider booking a call with me. I think the FT ranking, and especially the underlying data, are useful. If you are looking at the MIF ranking, then you have to do so through the lens of national labour markets.

What degree are you considering?

These are more questions than I have time for right now. Consider booking a call with me. I think the FT ranking, and especially the underlying data, are useful. If you are looking at the MIF ranking, then you have to do so through the lens of national labour markets.

What degree are you considering?
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Duncan

Take a look at https://find-mba.com/board/general-forum/best-msc-mim-degrees-for-international-students-placement-52915

Take a look at https://find-mba.com/board/general-forum/best-msc-mim-degrees-for-international-students-placement-52915
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These are more questions than I have time for right now. Consider booking a call with me. I think the FT ranking, and especially the underlying data, are useful. If you are looking at the MIF ranking, then you have to do so through the lens of national labour markets.

What degree are you considering?

I am considering the master in management.

[quote]These are more questions than I have time for right now. Consider booking a call with me. I think the FT ranking, and especially the underlying data, are useful. If you are looking at the MIF ranking, then you have to do so through the lens of national labour markets.

What degree are you considering? [/quote]
I am considering the master in management.
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These are more questions than I have time for right now. Consider booking a call with me. I think the FT ranking, and especially the underlying data, are useful. If you are looking at the MIF ranking, then you have to do so through the lens of national labour markets.

What degree are you considering?

Would Cranfield be a better option than Warwick or Smurfit or Manchester?

[quote]These are more questions than I have time for right now. Consider booking a call with me. I think the FT ranking, and especially the underlying data, are useful. If you are looking at the MIF ranking, then you have to do so through the lens of national labour markets.

What degree are you considering? [/quote]
Would Cranfield be a better option than Warwick or Smurfit or Manchester?
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Duncan

Take a look at the approach I used at https://find-mba.com/board/general-forum/best-msc-mim-degrees-for-international-students-placement-52915 back then, Smurfit and Cranfield were the better options. Try using the 2019 data and see what the same approach yeilds.

Take a look at the approach I used at https://find-mba.com/board/general-forum/best-msc-mim-degrees-for-international-students-placement-52915 back then, Smurfit and Cranfield were the better options. Try using the 2019 data and see what the same approach yeilds.
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NH95

Would Cranfield be a better option than Warwick or Smurfit or Manchester?


@frasier12345 Were you able to get to a conclusion on this? 

[quote]Would Cranfield be a better option than Warwick or Smurfit or Manchester? [/quote]<br><br>@frasier12345 Were you able to get to a conclusion on this?&nbsp;
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Duncan

Since the discussion on this thread, the new FT ranking for pre-experience MiFs was published. Ranked by salary, the schools with Uk MiF degrees are:



School nameSalary today (US$)

ESCP Business School125,603

University of Oxford: Saïd111,005

Imperial College Business School98,787

Warwick Business School80,224

City, University of London, The Business School (formerly Cass)72,866

University of Edinburgh Business School66,791

Henley Business School59,080

Lancaster University Management School56,940

University of Exeter Business School55,729

University of Bath School of Management54,084

Durham University Business School51,316

University of Strathclyde Business School48,576

Nottingham University Business School44,265

University of Glasgow: Adam Smith43,544


So, I think Cranfield doesn't look like a strong choice using those data.

Since the discussion on this thread, the new FT ranking for pre-experience MiFs was published. Ranked by salary, the schools with Uk MiF degrees are:<br>
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</div><div>School nameSalary today (US$)</div><br><br><div>ESCP Business School125,603</div><br><br><div>University of Oxford: Saïd111,005</div><br><br><div>Imperial College Business School98,787</div><br><br><div>Warwick Business School80,224</div><br><br><div>City, University of London, The Business School (formerly Cass)72,866</div><br><br><div>University of Edinburgh Business School66,791</div><br><br><div>Henley Business School59,080</div><br><br><div>Lancaster University Management School56,940</div><br><br><div>University of Exeter Business School55,729</div><br><br><div>University of Bath School of Management54,084</div><br><br><div>Durham University Business School51,316</div><br><br><div>University of Strathclyde Business School48,576</div><br><br><div>Nottingham University Business School44,265</div><br><br><div>University of Glasgow: Adam Smith43,544
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</div><div><br>So, I think Cranfield doesn't look like a strong choice using those data.</div>
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