European MBA to radically alter your life?


Readerri

Hi,

Is it possible for you to link to the most recent career report from Copenhagen Business School that shows that fewer grads are getting placed in Denmark? I am thinking about applying to the school but am now a bit torn.

Hi,

Is it possible for you to link to the most recent career report from Copenhagen Business School that shows that fewer grads are getting placed in Denmark? I am thinking about applying to the school but am now a bit torn.
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Readerri,

You can directly contact the CBS Career Management team if you are unable to find the latest career report on their website. My friend graduated from CBS in 2014, I myself had an admit from CBS in 2012.

According to my own findings and my friend who graduated - The school is good in terms of education, quality of students, student life and exposure to the Scandinavian way of Management.

Be advised that the school offers upto 30% of scholarship (30% of tuition), and you'll be told about that decision only after you have submitted your initial deposit. My friend however got a good deal, since another student who secured scholarship did not enroll - so her scholarship amount was rolled over to my friend.

Since, my friend is an Indian citizen, he had to face obvious "roadblocks" when it came to finding a job post MBA. work permit issues aside - he had to convince his potential employers that he is a better candidate than equally qualified EU nationals who can speak German, Danish, English and at times another European language.

He did eventually find a job in Stockholm, but it took him more than 6 months to do so. All this time, his wife was working in Stockholm and so she could support him financially.

Out of 7 Indian students graduated in 2014.
- 2 went back to their previous employer (they were working in Copenhagen to start with)
- 2 including my friend got a job
- 3 had to return back to India

You might land a job in Denmark, or you may land one in neighboring countries - either way budget in an extra 6-12 months of cost of living after graduation if you are set on pursuing MBA from CBS.

Hope it helps,
Ayon

Readerri,

You can directly contact the CBS Career Management team if you are unable to find the latest career report on their website. My friend graduated from CBS in 2014, I myself had an admit from CBS in 2012.

According to my own findings and my friend who graduated - The school is good in terms of education, quality of students, student life and exposure to the Scandinavian way of Management.

Be advised that the school offers upto 30% of scholarship (30% of tuition), and you'll be told about that decision only after you have submitted your initial deposit. My friend however got a good deal, since another student who secured scholarship did not enroll - so her scholarship amount was rolled over to my friend.

Since, my friend is an Indian citizen, he had to face obvious "roadblocks" when it came to finding a job post MBA. work permit issues aside - he had to convince his potential employers that he is a better candidate than equally qualified EU nationals who can speak German, Danish, English and at times another European language.

He did eventually find a job in Stockholm, but it took him more than 6 months to do so. All this time, his wife was working in Stockholm and so she could support him financially.

Out of 7 Indian students graduated in 2014.
- 2 went back to their previous employer (they were working in Copenhagen to start with)
- 2 including my friend got a job
- 3 had to return back to India

You might land a job in Denmark, or you may land one in neighboring countries - either way budget in an extra 6-12 months of cost of living after graduation if you are set on pursuing MBA from CBS.

Hope it helps,
Ayon
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Readerri

Wow, thanks for all the info!

Wow, thanks for all the info!
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@Alantris

How difficult is it to obtain a work permit in Canada? I have been considering to locating to Canada. -- I know getting the US H-1B nowadays is practically impossible.

I am surprised that you want to work in Italy and Spain, beause both economies are not doing great, and they are not countries where you could get by using English unlike in Denmark or Sweden. -- I am not saying that these are not great countries to live, but there will be the language barrier.

The other point is financing your MBA in Italy/Spain when you can't work there for a while. The IESE has a one-year FT MBA program for €30k -- plus the cost of living.

Since you have work and can obtain the Canadian citizenship, maybe you could start an online MBA and start learning Spanish, and then relocate when you are done. I would opt for Spanish over Italian because with Spanish, you have more opportunities should Spain not work out. California is sort of bilingual -- English/Spanish.

Also, Miami is becoming a hub for Latin and South America. And Canada is in the NAFTA and there is CETA coming along (not sure if already signed).

Good luck.

[Edited by G11nSpecalist on Aug 03, 2015]

@Alantris

How difficult is it to obtain a work permit in Canada? I have been considering to locating to Canada. -- I know getting the US H-1B nowadays is practically impossible.

I am surprised that you want to work in Italy and Spain, beause both economies are not doing great, and they are not countries where you could get by using English unlike in Denmark or Sweden. -- I am not saying that these are not great countries to live, but there will be the language barrier.

The other point is financing your MBA in Italy/Spain when you can't work there for a while. The IESE has a one-year FT MBA program for €30k -- plus the cost of living.

Since you have work and can obtain the Canadian citizenship, maybe you could start an online MBA and start learning Spanish, and then relocate when you are done. I would opt for Spanish over Italian because with Spanish, you have more opportunities should Spain not work out. California is sort of bilingual -- English/Spanish.

Also, Miami is becoming a hub for Latin and South America. And Canada is in the NAFTA and there is CETA coming along (not sure if already signed).

Good luck.
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"getting the US H-1B nowadays is practically impossible" Is a little too harsh. I got lucky and got my H1B this year. Key operative being "lucky", since its a lottery

On a general quota you would have 65,000 slots
On advanced degree you would have 20,000 slots

Less 6,800 for Chile / Singapore citizens

So ball park ~~ 80,000 per year, as per the current H1B quota mandated by Congress.
This year there were 233,000 petitions, this number might increase next year or decrease - depending upon the US Economy - which many feel will increase.

So in a general quota you would have 25 - 30% probability of getting picked in lottery
In advanced degree according to various websites you have ~~ 50% probability of getting picked. All unselected petitions in advanced degree quota are dissolved in general quota and hence they have another chance of getting picked.

Have said that, several petitions are picked - but denied. Those empty slots are rolled over onto next year's slot. So the number of slot can tad bit greater than 65,000.
There are several cases (mine being one) where a petition is picked in the lottery but gets a RFE (Request For Evidence) - which means that additional documents specified in RFE needed to be produced to USCIS for the petition to get it approved.

The whole process is full of anxiety and emotions, at times you feel that it doesn't make sense since it boils down to luck - But its still not practically impossible.

It's important to have a Plan B. You need a plan B even if you select IESE, Ivey, Oxford, Harvard or pretty much any other school.

@Alantris

How difficult is it to obtain a work permit in Canada? I have been considering to locating to Canada. -- I know getting the US H-1B nowadays is practically impossible.

I am surprised that you want to work in Italy and Spain. Both economies are not doing great, and they are not countries where you could get by using English such as in Denmark or Sweden. -- I am not saying that these are not great countries to live, but there will be the language barrier.

The other point is financing your MBA in Italy/Spain when you can't work there for a while. The IESE has a one-year FT MBA program for €30k -- plus the cost of living.

Good luck.

"getting the US H-1B nowadays is practically impossible" Is a little too harsh. I got lucky and got my H1B this year. Key operative being "lucky", since its a lottery

On a general quota you would have 65,000 slots
On advanced degree you would have 20,000 slots

Less 6,800 for Chile / Singapore citizens

So ball park ~~ 80,000 per year, as per the current H1B quota mandated by Congress.
This year there were 233,000 petitions, this number might increase next year or decrease - depending upon the US Economy - which many feel will increase.

So in a general quota you would have 25 - 30% probability of getting picked in lottery
In advanced degree according to various websites you have ~~ 50% probability of getting picked. All unselected petitions in advanced degree quota are dissolved in general quota and hence they have another chance of getting picked.

Have said that, several petitions are picked - but denied. Those empty slots are rolled over onto next year's slot. So the number of slot can tad bit greater than 65,000.
There are several cases (mine being one) where a petition is picked in the lottery but gets a RFE (Request For Evidence) - which means that additional documents specified in RFE needed to be produced to USCIS for the petition to get it approved.

The whole process is full of anxiety and emotions, at times you feel that it doesn't make sense since it boils down to luck - But its still not practically impossible.

It's important to have a Plan B. You need a plan B even if you select IESE, Ivey, Oxford, Harvard or pretty much any other school.

[quote]@Alantris

How difficult is it to obtain a work permit in Canada? I have been considering to locating to Canada. -- I know getting the US H-1B nowadays is practically impossible.

I am surprised that you want to work in Italy and Spain. Both economies are not doing great, and they are not countries where you could get by using English such as in Denmark or Sweden. -- I am not saying that these are not great countries to live, but there will be the language barrier.

The other point is financing your MBA in Italy/Spain when you can't work there for a while. The IESE has a one-year FT MBA program for €30k -- plus the cost of living.

Good luck.[/quote]
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Duncan

Sadly the odds are not as favourable as you might assume. The quota is often filled up in the first few days of each quote year, and firms are still hesitant to sponsors MBAs rather than people with skills they might struggle to find in the domestic workforce.

Sadly the odds are not as favourable as you might assume. The quota is often filled up in the first few days of each quote year, and firms are still hesitant to sponsors MBAs rather than people with skills they might struggle to find in the domestic workforce.
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