UK or Denmark


Hi,

I score 590 in Gmat, work experience 3 years though this I have offer letter from Aston Business School and Copenhagen Business School. I am tried of weighing pros and cons of both the universities. Kindly help, which would give a better future security as I m financing myself and would want to work in Europe for a while to pay off the loan a bit before returning back. I want to pursue a career in Consultancy.
UK has a very strict visa policy, and none of my friends were able to secure a work visa after studying in UK. Denmark offers a 3 year greencard(tempting).
Aston is way cheaper than Copenhagen, and living in Denmark is expensive. Also Denmark has very high taxes(too high).

Any insight is welcome :)
Hi,

I score 590 in Gmat, work experience 3 years though this I have offer letter from Aston Business School and Copenhagen Business School. I am tried of weighing pros and cons of both the universities. Kindly help, which would give a better future security as I m financing myself and would want to work in Europe for a while to pay off the loan a bit before returning back. I want to pursue a career in Consultancy.
UK has a very strict visa policy, and none of my friends were able to secure a work visa after studying in UK. Denmark offers a 3 year greencard(tempting).
Aston is way cheaper than Copenhagen, and living in Denmark is expensive. Also Denmark has very high taxes(too high).

Any insight is welcome :)
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Duncan
Which of the languages do you speak better?
Which of the languages do you speak better?
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I speak English better but I have worked with many european clients so I know basic Spanish, French and Portuguese. Learning languages comes naturally to me, or so I'm told.
I speak English better but I have worked with many european clients so I know basic Spanish, French and Portuguese. Learning languages comes naturally to me, or so I'm told.
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Duncan
If you don't speak Danish then the choice is obvious.
If you don't speak Danish then the choice is obvious.
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Razors Edg...
I don't know, I think that with this schools, it's a bit of a toss-up, in that it will be difficult either way. At Aston, even though you'd speak the language, the post-graduation visa rules are going to be an issue, and many non-EU students who do their MBAs at unranked UK b-schools find it an uphill battle, and end up returning home.

In Copenhagen, you might be able to find some management-level jobs which don't require you to speak Danish, but I wouldn't count on it. But at least you'd be able to take a job in a startup or something with your visa. :)

Although it's a bit old at this point, it might be worth reading through this old thread about CBS:

http://www.find-mba.com/board/19196

And talk to the schools. Ask them about what options they'd foresee for somebody with your background and profile. Hopefully they'll be honest.
I don't know, I think that with this schools, it's a bit of a toss-up, in that it will be difficult either way. At Aston, even though you'd speak the language, the post-graduation visa rules are going to be an issue, and many non-EU students who do their MBAs at unranked UK b-schools find it an uphill battle, and end up returning home.

In Copenhagen, you might be able to find some management-level jobs which don't require you to speak Danish, but I wouldn't count on it. But at least you'd be able to take a job in a startup or something with your visa. :)

Although it's a bit old at this point, it might be worth reading through this old thread about CBS:

http://www.find-mba.com/board/19196

And talk to the schools. Ask them about what options they'd foresee for somebody with your background and profile. Hopefully they'll be honest.
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I don't think UK would server my purpose of international work experience as the market is a battle there, hence I have dropped that option. But a few days back I received offers from Essec and Emlyon Business School (I already had CBS).
Any suggestions on which school would be better if I want to pursue a career in IT Consultancy.
Since I have only 3 years work-ex, I think after 1 yr MBA, if I get a normal position would be fine as I have the years to fill up the gap.
I studied french in my high school for 4 yrs, but someone told me France is very difficult in giving work permits to non-EU people. Also with major attention on French, it would be hard to get a proper job.
I don't think UK would server my purpose of international work experience as the market is a battle there, hence I have dropped that option. But a few days back I received offers from Essec and Emlyon Business School (I already had CBS).
Any suggestions on which school would be better if I want to pursue a career in IT Consultancy.
Since I have only 3 years work-ex, I think after 1 yr MBA, if I get a normal position would be fine as I have the years to fill up the gap.
I studied french in my high school for 4 yrs, but someone told me France is very difficult in giving work permits to non-EU people. Also with major attention on French, it would be hard to get a proper job.
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I don't think UK would server my purpose of international work experience as the market is a battle there, hence I have dropped that option. But a few days back I received offers from Essec and Emlyon Business School (I already had CBS).
Any suggestions on which school would be better if I want to pursue a career in IT Consultancy.
Since I have only 3 years work-ex, I think after 1 yr MBA, if I get a normal position would be fine as I have the years to fill up the gap.
I studied french in my high school for 4 yrs, but someone told me France is very difficult in giving work permits to non-EU people. Also with major attention on French, it would be hard to get a proper job.
I don't think UK would server my purpose of international work experience as the market is a battle there, hence I have dropped that option. But a few days back I received offers from Essec and Emlyon Business School (I already had CBS).
Any suggestions on which school would be better if I want to pursue a career in IT Consultancy.
Since I have only 3 years work-ex, I think after 1 yr MBA, if I get a normal position would be fine as I have the years to fill up the gap.
I studied french in my high school for 4 yrs, but someone told me France is very difficult in giving work permits to non-EU people. Also with major attention on French, it would be hard to get a proper job.
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Duncan
ESSEC is a strong choice. You would certainly have to give major attention to French. Honestly, I would suggest taking a year at ESSEC's partner university and taking an intensive French program. http://www.u-cergy.fr/fr/international/centre-international-de-langue-francaise--cilfac/diplome-universitaire-de-langue-francaise-et-cultures-francophones--dulfcf.html
ESSEC is a strong choice. You would certainly have to give major attention to French. Honestly, I would suggest taking a year at ESSEC's partner university and taking an intensive French program. http://www.u-cergy.fr/fr/international/centre-international-de-langue-francaise--cilfac/diplome-universitaire-de-langue-francaise-et-cultures-francophones--dulfcf.html
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FT doesn't have any ranking of MBA for Essec, I could only find rankings of other management programs. I have been offered Global MBA. I know there is a high demand of Essec other specialized MBA program but I coudn't find feedback of Global MBA.
May I know why you are not suggesting Emlyon? As it comes in top 100 of FT Global rankings, even tops Essec in European ranking.
FT doesn't have any ranking of MBA for Essec, I could only find rankings of other management programs. I have been offered Global MBA. I know there is a high demand of Essec other specialized MBA program but I coudn't find feedback of Global MBA.
May I know why you are not suggesting Emlyon? As it comes in top 100 of FT Global rankings, even tops Essec in European ranking.
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Duncan
Search the board for discussion. ESSEC has a new MBA, too young for the rankings. It is better for employment, as EMLYON is better for entrepreneurship.
Search the board for discussion. ESSEC has a new MBA, too young for the rankings. It is better for employment, as EMLYON is better for entrepreneurship.
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Elin
Though beneficial, it's not necessary to speak Danish in order to get a job in DK after the CBS MBA. A large part of int'l graduates choose to stay in the country and get jobs in int'l firms where only English is required. See some alumni interviews here: http://www.cbs.dk/en/continuing-education/mba/full-time-mba/testimonials/video-library
Though beneficial, it's not necessary to speak Danish in order to get a job in DK after the CBS MBA. A large part of int'l graduates choose to stay in the country and get jobs in int'l firms where only English is required. See some alumni interviews here: http://www.cbs.dk/en/continuing-education/mba/full-time-mba/testimonials/video-library
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Duncan
There's a nice discussion of it here: http://board.find-mba.com/europe/do-you-need-to-speak-the-local-language-29546 where I made this comment about MBA roles:-

"the number of roles like that is very limited in Denmark, and the CBS programme only has around 40 students. Looking at their recent placement stats, the numbers finding work in Denmark fell from 40% to 30% to 23%. Considering that 2/3rds of the class is European, that's that's a higher placement rate in country: it suggests that ten out of 43 will get jobs in Denmark. If we assume that the four Danes this year (http://www.cbs.dk/files/cbs.dk/cv_book_2...) will be among them, then that means that 6 out of 43 international students will find work in-country, if the school can buck the falling trend and equal the last results."

Also add the context of the huge cuts at CBS.
There's a nice discussion of it here: http://board.find-mba.com/europe/do-you-need-to-speak-the-local-language-29546 where I made this comment about MBA roles:-

"the number of roles like that is very limited in Denmark, and the CBS programme only has around 40 students. Looking at their recent placement stats, the numbers finding work in Denmark fell from 40% to 30% to 23%. Considering that 2/3rds of the class is European, that's that's a higher placement rate in country: it suggests that ten out of 43 will get jobs in Denmark. If we assume that the four Danes this year (http://www.cbs.dk/files/cbs.dk/cv_book_2...) will be among them, then that means that 6 out of 43 international students will find work in-country, if the school can buck the falling trend and equal the last results."

Also add the context of the huge cuts at CBS.
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