SHU, Luxembourgh


I have been trying to understand the SHU program at Luxembourgh and have been relatively foxed to see that there is very little information on SHU,LU beyond a few posts. I am looking a career in SCM/Ops/General Management and want to know if there are opportunities of these kind at Luxembourgh.

Thanks

I have been trying to understand the SHU program at Luxembourgh and have been relatively foxed to see that there is very little information on SHU,LU beyond a few posts. I am looking a career in SCM/Ops/General Management and want to know if there are opportunities of these kind at Luxembourgh.

Thanks
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Duncan

I don't think SHU will be placing people into MBA level roles like that, if that's your question.

Do you speak the languages?

I don't think SHU will be placing people into MBA level roles like that, if that's your question.

Do you speak the languages?
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Thanks for the response. I have done French a few years ago but would require serious run through again.

Thanks for the response. I have done French a few years ago but would require serious run through again.
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Hi I am responsible for this MBA with Internship program at Sacred Heart University Luxembourg. The program is very new and therefore not very known. In 16 months students are able to earn an MBA and gain work experience while completing an internship at a company in Luxembourg. We have a roster of many top companies such as ArcelorMittal, BBH, Lombard International Assurance, SES satellites, UBS, Citibank, Goodyear. In most companies the working language is English and therefore French is not a prerequisite..

Hi I am responsible for this MBA with Internship program at Sacred Heart University Luxembourg. The program is very new and therefore not very known. In 16 months students are able to earn an MBA and gain work experience while completing an internship at a company in Luxembourg. We have a roster of many top companies such as ArcelorMittal, BBH, Lombard International Assurance, SES satellites, UBS, Citibank, Goodyear. In most companies the working language is English and therefore French is not a prerequisite..
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Inactive User

French may not be a prerequisite, but since this candidate was looking for post-MBA careers in Luxembourg I'd say that French fluency would be pretty important.

French may not be a prerequisite, but since this candidate was looking for post-MBA careers in Luxembourg I'd say that French fluency would be pretty important.
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True but it really depends on the company you will be working for. Some international companies like Goodyear or many banks only work in English.

True but it really depends on the company you will be working for. Some international companies like Goodyear or many banks only work in English.
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Razors Edg...

What percentage of non-EU SHU graduates who only speak English get jobs with these companies?

What percentage of non-EU SHU graduates who only speak English get jobs with these companies?
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The program is very new and therefore making giving a percentage might be misleading. Most students speak another language eg Hindi or Spanish but not French and German. So if we look at the overall picture it looks as follows. The first 4 students who graduated in December 2013: 3 were only English speakers. 2 of them decided to stay and found a job. The next year out of 7 students 5 are only English speakers. 2 of them found already a job and 3 started to apply and I am confident they find a job. So percentage wise it looks very good and we support our students in their job search. However, we can of course not give a guarantee that they find a job.

The program is very new and therefore making giving a percentage might be misleading. Most students speak another language eg Hindi or Spanish but not French and German. So if we look at the overall picture it looks as follows. The first 4 students who graduated in December 2013: 3 were only English speakers. 2 of them decided to stay and found a job. The next year out of 7 students 5 are only English speakers. 2 of them found already a job and 3 started to apply and I am confident they find a job. So percentage wise it looks very good and we support our students in their job search. However, we can of course not give a guarantee that they find a job.
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Duncan

How can you possibly afford to run a course with 7 students?

How can you possibly afford to run a course with 7 students?
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Razors Edg...

Good question. It's certainly an interesting place for an American school to run an MBA program, especially with such a small cohort.

Good question. It's certainly an interesting place for an American school to run an MBA program, especially with such a small cohort.
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We still have indeed not very many students in this program. But the MBA with Internship students are taking the courses together with the students who take the part-time MBA. Average class size varies from 10-30 students depending whether it is a compulsory course of an elective course.
hope this solves the mystery.

We still have indeed not very many students in this program. But the MBA with Internship students are taking the courses together with the students who take the part-time MBA. Average class size varies from 10-30 students depending whether it is a compulsory course of an elective course.
hope this solves the mystery.
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Sir,
I was hoping to know if the candidates with Internship track are valued equally in the job market as their other piers ?
Also, what are the positions they usually get placed in ?

Sir,
I was hoping to know if the candidates with Internship track are valued equally in the job market as their other piers ?
Also, what are the positions they usually get placed in ?
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Razors Edg...

Seems like they dodged other post-MBA careers questions since the program is "very new" - no reason to think they won't do the same thing again.

Seems like they dodged other post-MBA careers questions since the program is "very new" - no reason to think they won't do the same thing again.
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Duncan

LinkedIN shows 200 SHU alumni in the country: https://www.linkedin.com/vsearch/p?school=heart&openAdvancedForm=true&locationType=I&countryCode=lu&rsid=2007051448910878311&orig=FCTD&openFacets=N,G,CC,ED&f_ED=18028

So, it cannot be that young but the alumni are in managerial roles generally, often in finance and operations. It feels like its a way for people already working in the Duchy to study part-time and get a US qualification that won't cost a lot. LinkedIn shows it as the second largest metro region for SHU MBA: fewer than NYC but more than Boston. The part-time program is offered as a full-time option (students take the part-time classes but can also do an internship or personal project). There seems to be be no guarantee of an internship or a suggestion that they are paid.

LinkedIN shows 200 SHU alumni in the country: https://www.linkedin.com/vsearch/p?school=heart&openAdvancedForm=true&locationType=I&countryCode=lu&rsid=2007051448910878311&orig=FCTD&openFacets=N,G,CC,ED&f_ED=18028

So, it cannot be that young but the alumni are in managerial roles generally, often in finance and operations. It feels like its a way for people already working in the Duchy to study part-time and get a US qualification that won't cost a lot. LinkedIn shows it as the second largest metro region for SHU MBA: fewer than NYC but more than Boston. The part-time program is offered as a full-time option (students take the part-time classes but can also do an internship or personal project). There seems to be be no guarantee of an internship or a suggestion that they are paid.
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Hey Guys,

Anyone joining SHU this year. I have applied to this university and I am highly interested to join. I couldn't get much information initially, then met up with an alumni who is currently working in Luxembourg. He was very appreciative about the course. He said the class size was around 10-20 students, so interaction was quite good and the courses were intensive. He is in a managerial position as he also had enough work experience in the past. I have also applied to 2 more other universities.

Cheers, Andrew.

Hey Guys,

Anyone joining SHU this year. I have applied to this university and I am highly interested to join. I couldn't get much information initially, then met up with an alumni who is currently working in Luxembourg. He was very appreciative about the course. He said the class size was around 10-20 students, so interaction was quite good and the courses were intensive. He is in a managerial position as he also had enough work experience in the past. I have also applied to 2 more other universities.

Cheers, Andrew.
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Duncan

Why there? Do you live in Luxembourg?

Why there? Do you live in Luxembourg?
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maury

From what I've seen on the internet, if a main selling point of an MBA program is "small class size," that's a big red flag. I mean, you'll find MBA programs everywhere with small class sizes, so I don't think this is something that is really *that* important.

Instead, I would look at other factors which more effectively indicate quality, such as international accreditation, rankings, and post-MBA career data.

Look closely at the discussion above re: careers.

From what I've seen on the internet, if a main selling point of an MBA program is "small class size," that's a big red flag. I mean, you'll find MBA programs everywhere with small class sizes, so I don't think this is something that is really *that* important.

Instead, I would look at other factors which more effectively indicate quality, such as international accreditation, rankings, and post-MBA career data.

Look closely at the discussion above re: careers.
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Duncan

Well, there is small and small. The SHU programme is too small to get into rankings even though the classes have full-time and part-time students lumped in together. That means that students will have not only taken prior courses with different people, but they will also have taken different courses and have different knowledge. A cohort-based, lock-step, programme will be better for most students. Considering the large number of stronger schools within an hour or two of Luxembourg (Mannheim, Frankfurt, WHU, ICN, Solvay) I don't think it is an obvious choice.

Well, there is small and small. The SHU programme is too small to get into rankings even though the classes have full-time and part-time students lumped in together. That means that students will have not only taken prior courses with different people, but they will also have taken different courses and have different knowledge. A cohort-based, lock-step, programme will be better for most students. Considering the large number of stronger schools within an hour or two of Luxembourg (Mannheim, Frankfurt, WHU, ICN, Solvay) I don't think it is an obvious choice.
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Duncan and Maury,

I came for a consulting assignment through my current company to Luxembourg. I had a very positive feeling about the school. Yes, there are a lot of other schools that true and it is very easy to get lost in the huge number of students that are present in these schools. For me the main reasons of joining this program - ROI, Luxembourg is economically quite stable and there are a lot of good job opportunities, since 70% of the people in Luxembourg are international - most of the companies speak in English ( French, German, being the other 2 important languages ), quality of life is better, Financial sector is very strong. There are a lot of classes going on at the same time, but each class has a limited participation, so class size is small and I still think that is an advantage. I don't understand why you think its bad!!! Maybe I can't take all the courses that run at the same time, that might be a disadvantage...Otherwise I think its fine!!

Andrew.

Duncan and Maury,

I came for a consulting assignment through my current company to Luxembourg. I had a very positive feeling about the school. Yes, there are a lot of other schools that true and it is very easy to get lost in the huge number of students that are present in these schools. For me the main reasons of joining this program - ROI, Luxembourg is economically quite stable and there are a lot of good job opportunities, since 70% of the people in Luxembourg are international - most of the companies speak in English ( French, German, being the other 2 important languages ), quality of life is better, Financial sector is very strong. There are a lot of classes going on at the same time, but each class has a limited participation, so class size is small and I still think that is an advantage. I don't understand why you think its bad!!! Maybe I can't take all the courses that run at the same time, that might be a disadvantage...Otherwise I think its fine!!

Andrew.
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Duncan

I don't really see how any RoI of attending SHU is visible. Certainly there's a return of staying in Luxemburg.

I don't really see how any RoI of attending SHU is visible. Certainly there's a return of staying in Luxemburg.
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