France: Top 20 Grande ecoles masters ranking

Elias Khou...

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Posted May 16, 2021 13:52

What are your worries about job prospects? Which of these programmes has the highest employment, for example?

Other things being equal, a MiF will always have better job prospects than a MiM. Personally, I think IESE is a stellar school and you will not regret it. However, clarify your goals.

Well I am worried about unemployment in spain and Spanish companies preference to hire local talents also visa and paperwork requirements for foreigners to work there.
My goal is to work in Europe as coming back to Lebanon is not on the table due to the crashing economy.
I have different goals (I know it sounds wrong) but I am open to various opportunities either strategy consulting at the top 3 or working in private equity/venture capital.
Strategy consulting at top companies in Europe remains my top goal will iese get me there? do you think a mif in lyon helps me get there, I know consulting prefers mims but I heard they take finance people?
i feel that I'm stuck to choose between a great school in an not so good country and a mid level school in an okay country, part of me wants to take the risk and go to iese and the other part wants to play it safe in france

[quote]What are your worries about job prospects? Which of these programmes has the highest employment, for example?  Other things being equal, a MiF will always have better job prospects than a MiM. Personally, I think IESE is a stellar school and you will not regret it. However, clarify your goals.  [/quote] Well I am worried about unemployment in spain and Spanish companies preference to hire local talents also visa and paperwork requirements for foreigners to work there. My goal is to work in Europe as coming back to Lebanon is not on the table due to the crashing economy.  I have different goals (I know it sounds wrong) but I am open to various opportunities either strategy consulting at the top 3 or working in private equity/venture capital.  Strategy consulting at top companies in Europe remains my top goal will iese get me there? do you think a mif in lyon helps me get there, I know consulting prefers mims but I heard they take finance people? i feel that I'm stuck to choose between a great school in an not so good country and a mid level school in an okay country, part of me wants to take the risk and go to iese and the other part wants to play it safe in france

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StuartHE

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Posted May 16, 2021 18:48

IESE is a world-class school. Other things being equal, it's better to attend that than a worse school in France. The big difference isn't Spain: it's not that Spain is notably more or less open to foreigners. The big difference is the schools. If you want to work in strategy consulting, IESE is certainly a better choice than the French schools you are mentioning.

You are very unlikely to find work in PE or VC without a strong personal network. There are very few such roles.

Either way, neither country is playing it safe. Strategy consulting, PE and VC are highly competitive and most students aiming there will else up in management consulting or financial institutions.

IESE is a world-class school. Other things being equal, it's better to attend that than a worse school in France. The big difference isn't Spain: it's not that Spain is notably more or less open to foreigners. The big difference is the schools. If you want to work in strategy consulting, IESE is certainly a better choice than the French schools you are mentioning.  You are very unlikely to find work in PE or VC without a strong personal network. There are very few such roles. Either way, neither country is playing it safe. Strategy consulting, PE and VC are highly competitive and most students aiming there will else up in management consulting or financial institutions.

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Elias EL K...

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Posted May 16, 2021 21:48

IESE is a world-class school. Other things being equal, it's better to attend that than a worse school in France. The big difference isn't Spain: it's not that Spain is notably more or less open to foreigners. The big difference is the schools. If you want to work in strategy consulting, IESE is certainly a better choice than the French schools you are mentioning.

You are very unlikely to find work in PE or VC without a strong personal network. There are very few such roles.

Either way, neither country is playing it safe. Strategy consulting, PE and VC are highly competitive and most students aiming there will else up in management consulting or financial institutions.

By playing it safe I meant that in France I can stay longer and find a job than in Spain and it's easier for foreigners to work there. Everyone I know in Spain told me to try a different country because conditions there are hard, I don't know how IESE will fit into that equation especially that their master in management is unranked and only 2 years old ( only 1 classhad graduated). I don't have the option of coming back to Lebanon as I will definitely not find any job here to pay my student debt (around 30000 euros) so i'll either work in spain or have to find employment in the gcc area. If I were European I would definitely choose iese but even during the interview iese's representative told me that europe is becoming more conservative and it's harder to find jobs there. I have till June to decide and I also have to see if i'll get accepted at Lyon or if the bank in Spain agrees to give a loan...

[quote]IESE is a world-class school. Other things being equal, it's better to attend that than a worse school in France. The big difference isn't Spain: it's not that Spain is notably more or less open to foreigners. The big difference is the schools. If you want to work in strategy consulting, IESE is certainly a better choice than the French schools you are mentioning.  You are very unlikely to find work in PE or VC without a strong personal network. There are very few such roles. Either way, neither country is playing it safe. Strategy consulting, PE and VC are highly competitive and most students aiming there will else up in management consulting or financial institutions.  [/quote] By playing it safe I meant that in France I can stay longer and find a job than in Spain and it's easier for foreigners to work there. Everyone I know in Spain told me to try a different country because conditions there are hard, I don't know how IESE will fit into that equation especially that their master in management is unranked and only 2 years old ( only 1 classhad graduated). I don't have the option of coming back to Lebanon as I will definitely not find any job here to pay my student debt (around 30000 euros) so i'll either work in spain or have to find employment in the gcc area. If I were European I would definitely choose iese but even during the interview iese's representative told me that europe is becoming more conservative and it's harder to find jobs there. I have till June to decide and I also have to see if i'll get accepted at Lyon or if the bank in Spain agrees to give a loan...

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Duncan

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Posted May 16, 2021 23:31

I think you need to refocus on your goals.

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Elias Khou...

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Posted May 17, 2021 14:04

I think you need to refocus on your goals.

You're right I do.
My primary goal is to move to europe but I also want to go to the best place possible

[quote]I think you need to refocus on your goals.  [/quote] You're right I do. My primary goal is to move to europe but I also want to go to the best place possible

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StuartHE

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Posted May 17, 2021 19:18

You need a career goal: what job, what role, what company, what country.... where can you add the most value?

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