France: Top 20 Grande ecoles masters ranking


Duncan

LePoint has a separate ranking for masters programmes, which includes a very useful average of the last five rankings. In the top 12, there's almost no movement year to year, expecially between the top five (although EDHEC and EMLyon are getting close to each other). Toulouse, IÉSEG and Skema edged up in 2013, and will almost certainly next year.

Below is the average rank.

HEC 1
ESSEC 2
ESCP Europe 3
EM Lyon 4
EDHEC 5
Audencia Nantes 6
Grenoble Ecole de Management 7
Rouen Business School 9
Reims Management School 10
Toulouse Business School 11
Euromed Management 11
BEM 13
IÉSEG 14
Skema 15
Telecom Business School 16
EM Strasbourg 17
ESC Rennes School of Business 18
Sup de Co Montpellier Business School 18
Essca 19
ICN Business School 20

PS The full ranking has 37 this year, down from 43 schools last year: http://www.lepoint.fr/palmares/grandes-ecoles/grade-de-masters.php

LePoint has a separate ranking for masters programmes, which includes a very useful average of the last five rankings. In the top 12, there's almost no movement year to year, expecially between the top five (although EDHEC and EMLyon are getting close to each other). Toulouse, IÉSEG and Skema edged up in 2013, and will almost certainly next year.

Below is the average rank.

HEC 1
ESSEC 2
ESCP Europe 3
EM Lyon 4
EDHEC 5
Audencia Nantes 6
Grenoble Ecole de Management 7
Rouen Business School 9
Reims Management School 10
Toulouse Business School 11
Euromed Management 11
BEM 13
IÉSEG 14
Skema 15
Telecom Business School 16
EM Strasbourg 17
ESC Rennes School of Business 18
Sup de Co Montpellier Business School 18
Essca 19
ICN Business School 20

PS The full ranking has 37 this year, down from 43 schools last year: http://www.lepoint.fr/palmares/grandes-ecoles/grade-de-masters.php
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ramyb

Thank you Duncan for this article.

no changes for the 2013.

i am interested in audencia International Masters in Management.

what do you think about it ?

Thank you Duncan for this article.

no changes for the 2013.

i am interested in audencia International Masters in Management.

what do you think about it ?
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Duncan

I think it's fairly ranked at http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/masters-in-management-2013 Not a bad choice for people who want to return to their own country. Take a look at: Do you need to speak the local language? www.find-mba.com/board/34713

I think it's fairly ranked at http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/masters-in-management-2013 Not a bad choice for people who want to return to their own country. Take a look at: Do you need to speak the local language? www.find-mba.com/board/34713
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ramyb

Thanks Duncan,

first i searched for ''low budget'' program, and at the same time accredited by the major international organizations, and with a good reputation locally and internationally (so i had to choose between vlerick and audencia)

Thank you for sharing this article... I am French educated so I've been using french for 15 years and on a daily basis, and i have passed the DELF test. plus i will be specializing in the HR management, and half/or all the courses in audencia are in french for these major courses, so i don't think that the language will be the problem.

Is there any other barrier that should I take into consideration?

Thanks Duncan,

first i searched for ''low budget'' program, and at the same time accredited by the major international organizations, and with a good reputation locally and internationally (so i had to choose between vlerick and audencia)

Thank you for sharing this article... I am French educated so I've been using french for 15 years and on a daily basis, and i have passed the DELF test. plus i will be specializing in the HR management, and half/or all the courses in audencia are in french for these major courses, so i don't think that the language will be the problem.

Is there any other barrier that should I take into consideration?
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Duncan

What are your goals? Why are you studying in English, in France? Why HR? See http://www.best-masters.com/ranking-master-human-resources-management-in-western-europe.html and http://www.forbes.com/pictures/efkk45ifij/no-10-worst-masters-degree-for-jobs-human-resources-management/

What are your goals? Why are you studying in English, in France? Why HR? See http://www.best-masters.com/ranking-master-human-resources-management-in-western-europe.html and http://www.forbes.com/pictures/efkk45ifij/no-10-worst-masters-degree-for-jobs-human-resources-management/
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ramyb

Thank you again for your help !

First why in english, because I have studied all my life in french, and even I have a bachelor degree in finance from paris ( from cnam university), and as you know the whole word is turning to english even france ( very slowly ).
My goal is to work in france, and since I know french, the english is a plus. On the other hand, if I didnt find a job in france, studying in English will help secure a job back in lebanon, or in arabic countries like uae, qatar.....

At the end, why HR ? Because I already have 3 years of experience in this field, I am a recruiter Societe General, so I guess this will help me secure a job in france ( nantes, paris, ...)

P.S. Thank you for the article about the best HR courses, but they are all 2 years program, and I can't afford living in france for 2 years without a job.

Thanks again

Thank you again for your help !

First why in english, because I have studied all my life in french, and even I have a bachelor degree in finance from paris ( from cnam university), and as you know the whole word is turning to english even france ( very slowly ).
My goal is to work in france, and since I know french, the english is a plus. On the other hand, if I didnt find a job in france, studying in English will help secure a job back in lebanon, or in arabic countries like uae, qatar.....

At the end, why HR ? Because I already have 3 years of experience in this field, I am a recruiter Societe General, so I guess this will help me secure a job in france ( nantes, paris, ...)

P.S. Thank you for the article about the best HR courses, but they are all 2 years program, and I can't afford living in france for 2 years without a job.

Thanks again
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Duncan

They are not all two year programmes.

I worry that by hedging your bets between France and the middle east you make a choice that is optimal for neither.

PS I notice that one of the HR people at SocGen completed this one-year MSc in HR: http://www.skema.edu/programs/masters-of-science/msc-strategic-human-resources-management

They are not all two year programmes.

I worry that by hedging your bets between France and the middle east you make a choice that is optimal for neither.

PS I notice that one of the HR people at SocGen completed this one-year MSc in HR: http://www.skema.edu/programs/masters-of-science/msc-strategic-human-resources-management
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ramyb

I worry that this universityhas not the three accreditations, that I think that could give me the edge in finding a job post graduation, plus audencia is ranked higher.

I don't understand your worries, and I am having the same thoughts, but I can't put all my money in one basket, I can't concentrate only on france and forget about the middle east, and vice versa. Yes ! My goal is to work in france, but since I'm not European I might face some problems finding a job.

I asked the alumni, they are all encouraging me, it's really international experience, it's not like HEC or escp, but looking at the tuition fees, it's perfect, and with a great network 17000 alumni.

I was thinking about Rouen or Rms, but with the merge, I think that it would be chaotic. I considered vlerick, but I don't know dutch, so it would be a problem finding a job in belguim.

I worry that this universityhas not the three accreditations, that I think that could give me the edge in finding a job post graduation, plus audencia is ranked higher.

I don't understand your worries, and I am having the same thoughts, but I can't put all my money in one basket, I can't concentrate only on france and forget about the middle east, and vice versa. Yes ! My goal is to work in france, but since I'm not European I might face some problems finding a job.

I asked the alumni, they are all encouraging me, it's really international experience, it's not like HEC or escp, but looking at the tuition fees, it's perfect, and with a great network 17000 alumni.

I was thinking about Rouen or Rms, but with the merge, I think that it would be chaotic. I considered vlerick, but I don't know dutch, so it would be a problem finding a job in belguim.
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Duncan

I don't think things will be especially chaotic at NEOMA Business School; wouldn't a bigger issue be that they don't have a degree in HRM?

I don't think things will be especially chaotic at NEOMA Business School; wouldn't a bigger issue be that they don't have a degree in HRM?
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ramyb

first of all i would like to apologize for the typing errors in my previous message.

as for the degree, i am looking for a masters in management, not HRM.

i may concentrate in a particular area, but i will still be required to take a certain number of core courses in finance, economics, accounting, marketing, MIS, and management. Electives will be used for my concentration. In the MS in HRM degree i will spend all my time on the principles of HR.

That's why i am applying for the International Masters in Management not Human Resources management..

and since i plan to work as a consultant for international firms, i believe that having an overall idea on all the aspects of an organisation will definitely help me be an asset for any consultaning firm

first of all i would like to apologize for the typing errors in my previous message.

as for the degree, i am looking for a masters in management, not HRM.

i may concentrate in a particular area, but i will still be required to take a certain number of core courses in finance, economics, accounting, marketing, MIS, and management. Electives will be used for my concentration. In the MS in HRM degree i will spend all my time on the principles of HR.

That's why i am applying for the International Masters in Management not Human Resources management..

and since i plan to work as a consultant for international firms, i believe that having an overall idea on all the aspects of an organisation will definitely help me be an asset for any consultaning firm
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Duncan

I've updated the ranking at the start of this post with the 2013 list.

I've updated the ranking at the start of this post with the 2013 list.
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ramyb

Thanks Duncan

Thanks Duncan
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Duncan

I just noticed the updated salary ranking, and that EM Lyon has fallen out of the top tier.

I just noticed the updated salary ranking, and that EM Lyon has fallen out of the top tier.
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Duncan

PS I just noticed that Skema now has AACSB accreditation...

PS I just noticed that Skema now has AACSB accreditation...
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mba hipste...

Interesting about Skema gaining AACSB accreditation. I wonder if they'll begin offering an MBA program someday?

Interesting about Skema gaining AACSB accreditation. I wonder if they'll begin offering an MBA program someday?
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Duncan

Like this one...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skema_Business_School#MBA_Programme
http://www.topmba.com/institution/skema-business-school
http://www.emspfrance.com/medias/4b44aff31b7f8/files/exec-mba-skema-ok.pdf ? Full time in 12 months or part-time in 24 months.

Like this one...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skema_Business_School#MBA_Programme
http://www.topmba.com/institution/skema-business-school
http://www.emspfrance.com/medias/4b44aff31b7f8/files/exec-mba-skema-ok.pdf ? Full time in 12 months or part-time in 24 months.
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LePoint has a separate ranking for masters programmes, which includes a very useful average of the last five rankings. In the top 12, there's almost no movement year to year, expecially between the top five (although EDHEC and EMLyon are getting close to each other). Toulouse, IÉSEG and Skema edged up in 2013, and will almost certainly next year.

Below is the average rank.

HEC 1
ESSEC 2
ESCP Europe 3
EM Lyon 4
EDHEC 5
Audencia Nantes 6
Grenoble Ecole de Management 7
Rouen Business School 9
Reims Management School 10
Toulouse Business School 11
Euromed Management 11
BEM 13
IÉSEG 14
Skema 15
Telecom Business School 16
EM Strasbourg 17
ESC Rennes School of Business 18
Sup de Co Montpellier Business School 18
Essca 19
ICN Business School 20

PS The full ranking has 37 this year, down from 43 schools last year: http://www.lepoint.fr/palmares/grandes-ecoles/grade-de-masters.php


I am accepted at IESE new master in management but I'm worried about the job prospects in Spain especially that I am lebanese and I will have more trouble finding work. I am also interested in finance and I am applying to EmLyon and grenoble GEM master in finance. The ft ranks grenoble much higher than emlyon but you seem to have a different opinion. If I am looking to stay in France or move to London to work in the finance industry which one do you suggest I take if I was accepted in both?
P.S. I have a 720 on the GMAT speaks both english and french really well but my university grades are not that good and I don't have any internationally reputable  university or company on my CV. So I wasn't accepted to both HEC and ESSEC MIM but I'm still applying to HEC MIF and ESCP MIM but both are long shots
 

[quote]LePoint has a separate ranking for masters programmes, which includes a very useful average of the last five rankings. In the top 12, there's almost no movement year to year, expecially between the top five (although EDHEC and EMLyon are getting close to each other). Toulouse, IÉSEG and Skema edged up in 2013, and will almost certainly next year.

Below is the average rank.

HEC 1
ESSEC 2
ESCP Europe 3
EM Lyon 4
EDHEC 5
Audencia Nantes 6
Grenoble Ecole de Management 7
Rouen Business School 9
Reims Management School 10
Toulouse Business School 11
Euromed Management 11
BEM 13
IÉSEG 14
Skema 15
Telecom Business School 16
EM Strasbourg 17
ESC Rennes School of Business 18
Sup de Co Montpellier Business School 18
Essca 19
ICN Business School 20

PS The full ranking has 37 this year, down from 43 schools last year: http://www.lepoint.fr/palmares/grandes-ecoles/grade-de-masters.php [/quote]<br><br>I am accepted at IESE new master in management but I'm worried about the job prospects in Spain especially that I am lebanese and I will have more trouble finding work. I am also interested in finance and I am applying to EmLyon and grenoble GEM master in finance. The ft ranks grenoble much higher than emlyon but you seem to have a different opinion. If I am looking to stay in France or move to London to work in the finance industry which one do you suggest I take if I was accepted in both?<br>P.S. I have a 720 on the GMAT speaks both english and french really well but my university grades are not that good and I don't have any internationally reputable&nbsp; university or company on my CV. So I wasn't accepted to both HEC and ESSEC MIM but I'm still applying to HEC MIF and ESCP MIM but both are long shots<br>&nbsp;<br><br>
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Duncan

I'm not sure whom you are addressing as 'you', but the ranking on this thread is about the main programmes of the grandes ecoles, the MSc in management. 'LePoint' is not alone in ranking EMLyon higher in that class: The FT also ranks the EMLyon MiM might more highly than that of Grenoble:  https://rankings.ft.com/rankings/2847 

The key thing here is to decide where you want to work, and whether you want to work in finance. If you want to work in France, study in France; in England if in England.

In the FT MiF ranking, where Grenoble is more highly ranked, I see that it reports 78% employment compared to EMLyon's 94%. I think that's a more significant metric for you. 

[Edited by Duncan on May 15, 2021]

I'm not sure whom you are addressing as 'you', but the ranking on this thread is about the main programmes of the grandes ecoles, the MSc in management. 'LePoint' is not alone in ranking EMLyon higher in that class: The FT also ranks the EMLyon MiM might more highly than that of Grenoble:&nbsp; https://rankings.ft.com/rankings/2847&nbsp;<br><br>The key thing here is to decide where you want to work, and whether you want to work in finance. If you want to work in France, study in France; in England if in England.<br><br>In the FT MiF ranking, where Grenoble is more highly ranked, I see that it reports 78% employment compared to EMLyon's 94%. I think that's a more significant metric for you.&nbsp;
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I'm not sure whom you are addressing as 'you', but the ranking on this thread is about the main programmes of the grandes ecoles, the MSc in management. 'LePoint' is not alone in ranking EMLyon higher in that class: The FT also ranks the EMLyon MiM might more highly than that of Grenoble:  https://rankings.ft.com/rankings/2847 

The key thing here is to decide where you want to work, and whether you want to work in finance. If you want to work in France, study in France; in England if in England.

In the FT MiF ranking, where Grenoble is more highly ranked, I see that it reports 78% employment compared to EMLyon's 94%. I think that's a more significant metric for you. 


The thing is I like both management and finance and if I went with management I will specialize in finance but I am very worried about the job prospects. I understand your point about the comparison between emlyon and grenoble and if I were accepted in both I will choose emlyon but what do you suggest me to choose between iese and these 2 schools. people have told me that with iese i can easily find a job in the gcc area but I prefer western Europe especially France, Amsterdam and London. while iese is better ranked and more known than emlyon or grenoble do you think id better choose just because they're in France?
thanks for your help its highly appreciated

[quote]I'm not sure whom you are addressing as 'you', but the ranking on this thread is about the main programmes of the grandes ecoles, the MSc in management. 'LePoint' is not alone in ranking EMLyon higher in that class: The FT also ranks the EMLyon MiM might more highly than that of Grenoble:&nbsp; https://rankings.ft.com/rankings/2847&nbsp;<br><br>The key thing here is to decide where you want to work, and whether you want to work in finance. If you want to work in France, study in France; in England if in England.<br><br>In the FT MiF ranking, where Grenoble is more highly ranked, I see that it reports 78% employment compared to EMLyon's 94%. I think that's a more significant metric for you.&nbsp; [/quote]<br><br>The thing is I like both management and finance and if I went with management I will specialize in finance but I am very worried about the job prospects. I understand your point about the comparison between emlyon and grenoble and if I were accepted in both I will choose emlyon but what do you suggest me to choose between iese and these 2 schools. people have told me that with iese i can easily find a job in the gcc area but I prefer western Europe especially France, Amsterdam and London. while iese is better ranked and more known than emlyon or grenoble do you think id better choose just because they're in France?<br>thanks for your help its highly appreciated
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Duncan

What are your worries about job prospects? Which of these programmes has the highest employment, for example? 

Other things being equal, a MiF will always have better job prospects than a MiM. Personally, I think IESE is a stellar school and you will not regret it. However, clarify your goals. 

What are your worries about job prospects? Which of these programmes has the highest employment, for example?&nbsp;<br><br>Other things being equal, a MiF will always have better job prospects than a MiM. Personally, I think IESE is a stellar school and you will not regret it. However, clarify your goals.&nbsp;
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