France: Top 20 Grande ecoles masters ranking


Duncan
LePoint has a separate ranking for masters programmes, which includes a very useful average of the last five rankings. In the top 12, there's almost no movement year to year, expecially between the top five (although EDHEC and EMLyon are getting close to each other). Toulouse, IÉSEG and Skema edged up in 2013, and will almost certainly next year.

Below is the average rank.

HEC 1
ESSEC 2
ESCP Europe 3
EM Lyon 4
EDHEC 5
Audencia Nantes 6
Grenoble Ecole de Management 7
Rouen Business School 9
Reims Management School 10
Toulouse Business School 11
Euromed Management 11
BEM 13
IÉSEG 14
Skema 15
Telecom Business School 16
EM Strasbourg 17
ESC Rennes School of Business 18
Sup de Co Montpellier Business School 18
Essca 19
ICN Business School 20

PS The full ranking has 37 this year, down from 43 schools last year: http://www.lepoint.fr/palmares/grandes-ecoles/grade-de-masters.php
LePoint has a separate ranking for masters programmes, which includes a very useful average of the last five rankings. In the top 12, there's almost no movement year to year, expecially between the top five (although EDHEC and EMLyon are getting close to each other). Toulouse, IÉSEG and Skema edged up in 2013, and will almost certainly next year.

Below is the average rank.

HEC 1
ESSEC 2
ESCP Europe 3
EM Lyon 4
EDHEC 5
Audencia Nantes 6
Grenoble Ecole de Management 7
Rouen Business School 9
Reims Management School 10
Toulouse Business School 11
Euromed Management 11
BEM 13
IÉSEG 14
Skema 15
Telecom Business School 16
EM Strasbourg 17
ESC Rennes School of Business 18
Sup de Co Montpellier Business School 18
Essca 19
ICN Business School 20

PS The full ranking has 37 this year, down from 43 schools last year: http://www.lepoint.fr/palmares/grandes-ecoles/grade-de-masters.php
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ramyb
Thank you Duncan for this article.

no changes for the 2013.

i am interested in audencia International Masters in Management.

what do you think about it ?
Thank you Duncan for this article.

no changes for the 2013.

i am interested in audencia International Masters in Management.

what do you think about it ?
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Duncan
I think it's fairly ranked at http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/masters-in-management-2013 Not a bad choice for people who want to return to their own country. Take a look at: Do you need to speak the local language? www.find-mba.com/board/34713
I think it's fairly ranked at http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/masters-in-management-2013 Not a bad choice for people who want to return to their own country. Take a look at: Do you need to speak the local language? www.find-mba.com/board/34713
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ramyb
Thanks Duncan,

first i searched for ''low budget'' program, and at the same time accredited by the major international organizations, and with a good reputation locally and internationally (so i had to choose between vlerick and audencia)

Thank you for sharing this article... I am French educated so I've been using french for 15 years and on a daily basis, and i have passed the DELF test. plus i will be specializing in the HR management, and half/or all the courses in audencia are in french for these major courses, so i don't think that the language will be the problem.

Is there any other barrier that should I take into consideration?
Thanks Duncan,

first i searched for ''low budget'' program, and at the same time accredited by the major international organizations, and with a good reputation locally and internationally (so i had to choose between vlerick and audencia)

Thank you for sharing this article... I am French educated so I've been using french for 15 years and on a daily basis, and i have passed the DELF test. plus i will be specializing in the HR management, and half/or all the courses in audencia are in french for these major courses, so i don't think that the language will be the problem.

Is there any other barrier that should I take into consideration?
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Duncan
What are your goals? Why are you studying in English, in France? Why HR? See http://www.best-masters.com/ranking-master-human-resources-management-in-western-europe.html and http://www.forbes.com/pictures/efkk45ifij/no-10-worst-masters-degree-for-jobs-human-resources-management/
What are your goals? Why are you studying in English, in France? Why HR? See http://www.best-masters.com/ranking-master-human-resources-management-in-western-europe.html and http://www.forbes.com/pictures/efkk45ifij/no-10-worst-masters-degree-for-jobs-human-resources-management/
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ramyb
Thank you again for your help !

First why in english, because I have studied all my life in french, and even I have a bachelor degree in finance from paris ( from cnam university), and as you know the whole word is turning to english even france ( very slowly ).
My goal is to work in france, and since I know french, the english is a plus. On the other hand, if I didnt find a job in france, studying in English will help secure a job back in lebanon, or in arabic countries like uae, qatar.....

At the end, why HR ? Because I already have 3 years of experience in this field, I am a recruiter Societe General, so I guess this will help me secure a job in france ( nantes, paris, ...)

P.S. Thank you for the article about the best HR courses, but they are all 2 years program, and I can't afford living in france for 2 years without a job.

Thanks again
Thank you again for your help !

First why in english, because I have studied all my life in french, and even I have a bachelor degree in finance from paris ( from cnam university), and as you know the whole word is turning to english even france ( very slowly ).
My goal is to work in france, and since I know french, the english is a plus. On the other hand, if I didnt find a job in france, studying in English will help secure a job back in lebanon, or in arabic countries like uae, qatar.....

At the end, why HR ? Because I already have 3 years of experience in this field, I am a recruiter Societe General, so I guess this will help me secure a job in france ( nantes, paris, ...)

P.S. Thank you for the article about the best HR courses, but they are all 2 years program, and I can't afford living in france for 2 years without a job.

Thanks again
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Duncan
They are not all two year programmes.

I worry that by hedging your bets between France and the middle east you make a choice that is optimal for neither.

PS I notice that one of the HR people at SocGen completed this one-year MSc in HR: http://www.skema.edu/programs/masters-of-science/msc-strategic-human-resources-management
They are not all two year programmes.

I worry that by hedging your bets between France and the middle east you make a choice that is optimal for neither.

PS I notice that one of the HR people at SocGen completed this one-year MSc in HR: http://www.skema.edu/programs/masters-of-science/msc-strategic-human-resources-management
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ramyb
I worry that this universityhas not the three accreditations, that I think that could give me the edge in finding a job post graduation, plus audencia is ranked higher.

I don't understand your worries, and I am having the same thoughts, but I can't put all my money in one basket, I can't concentrate only on france and forget about the middle east, and vice versa. Yes ! My goal is to work in france, but since I'm not European I might face some problems finding a job.

I asked the alumni, they are all encouraging me, it's really international experience, it's not like HEC or escp, but looking at the tuition fees, it's perfect, and with a great network 17000 alumni.

I was thinking about Rouen or Rms, but with the merge, I think that it would be chaotic. I considered vlerick, but I don't know dutch, so it would be a problem finding a job in belguim.
I worry that this universityhas not the three accreditations, that I think that could give me the edge in finding a job post graduation, plus audencia is ranked higher.

I don't understand your worries, and I am having the same thoughts, but I can't put all my money in one basket, I can't concentrate only on france and forget about the middle east, and vice versa. Yes ! My goal is to work in france, but since I'm not European I might face some problems finding a job.

I asked the alumni, they are all encouraging me, it's really international experience, it's not like HEC or escp, but looking at the tuition fees, it's perfect, and with a great network 17000 alumni.

I was thinking about Rouen or Rms, but with the merge, I think that it would be chaotic. I considered vlerick, but I don't know dutch, so it would be a problem finding a job in belguim.
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Duncan
I don't think things will be especially chaotic at NEOMA Business School; wouldn't a bigger issue be that they don't have a degree in HRM?
I don't think things will be especially chaotic at NEOMA Business School; wouldn't a bigger issue be that they don't have a degree in HRM?
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ramyb
first of all i would like to apologize for the typing errors in my previous message.

as for the degree, i am looking for a masters in management, not HRM.

i may concentrate in a particular area, but i will still be required to take a certain number of core courses in finance, economics, accounting, marketing, MIS, and management. Electives will be used for my concentration. In the MS in HRM degree i will spend all my time on the principles of HR.

That's why i am applying for the International Masters in Management not Human Resources management..

and since i plan to work as a consultant for international firms, i believe that having an overall idea on all the aspects of an organisation will definitely help me be an asset for any consultaning firm
first of all i would like to apologize for the typing errors in my previous message.

as for the degree, i am looking for a masters in management, not HRM.

i may concentrate in a particular area, but i will still be required to take a certain number of core courses in finance, economics, accounting, marketing, MIS, and management. Electives will be used for my concentration. In the MS in HRM degree i will spend all my time on the principles of HR.

That's why i am applying for the International Masters in Management not Human Resources management..

and since i plan to work as a consultant for international firms, i believe that having an overall idea on all the aspects of an organisation will definitely help me be an asset for any consultaning firm
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Duncan
I've updated the ranking at the start of this post with the 2013 list.
I've updated the ranking at the start of this post with the 2013 list.
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ramyb
Thanks Duncan
Thanks Duncan
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Duncan
I just noticed the updated salary ranking, and that EM Lyon has fallen out of the top tier.
I just noticed the updated salary ranking, and that EM Lyon has fallen out of the top tier.
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Duncan
PS I just noticed that Skema now has AACSB accreditation...
PS I just noticed that Skema now has AACSB accreditation...
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mba hipste...
Interesting about Skema gaining AACSB accreditation. I wonder if they'll begin offering an MBA program someday?
Interesting about Skema gaining AACSB accreditation. I wonder if they'll begin offering an MBA program someday?
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Duncan
Like this one...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skema_Business_School#MBA_Programme
http://www.topmba.com/institution/skema-business-school
http://www.emspfrance.com/medias/4b44aff31b7f8/files/exec-mba-skema-ok.pdf ? Full time in 12 months or part-time in 24 months.
Like this one...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skema_Business_School#MBA_Programme
http://www.topmba.com/institution/skema-business-school
http://www.emspfrance.com/medias/4b44aff31b7f8/files/exec-mba-skema-ok.pdf ? Full time in 12 months or part-time in 24 months.
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