PSB Academy


jocelyn
Anyone here taking up their MBA under PSB Academy which is awarded by the University of Western Australia?
Is this better than taking up an MBA at NTU?
Would appreciate your inputs. Thanks
Anyone here taking up their MBA under PSB Academy which is awarded by the University of Western Australia?
Is this better than taking up an MBA at NTU?
Would appreciate your inputs. Thanks
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Anil_2007
I have just applied to the PSB Academy for MBA. It seems it is popular in Singapore.
I have just applied to the PSB Academy for MBA. It seems it is popular in Singapore.
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jocelyn
Is it under the UWA?
Is it under the UWA?
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ramdi
I have just applied to the PSB Academy for MBA. It seems it is popular in Singapore.


This degree has no value in the job market. I should know as I am living and working in Singapore for last 6 years and know well about educational institutes here.
In Singapore, if you get an offer from INSEAD/NUS/NTU/SMU, grab it; others are not worth the efforts and money.
<blockquote>I have just applied to the PSB Academy for MBA. It seems it is popular in Singapore. </blockquote>

This degree has no value in the job market. I should know as I am living and working in Singapore for last 6 years and know well about educational institutes here.
In Singapore, if you get an offer from INSEAD/NUS/NTU/SMU, grab it; others are not worth the efforts and money.
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hotshott
Ramdi, I just wanna point out that your views are skewed, unfair and not balanced. Every MBA course has its strengths and weaknesses. If you have lived in SIngapore for 6 years, well I have lived in Singapore all my life. Did you even do your national service in Singapore, and push yourself to be in the top 10% and enter OCS? did you grow up having Singaporeans as your classmates in the schools here? Otherwise, you know NOTHING about Singapore and don't claim to be an expert in one, in the educational institutes or otherwise.
Ramdi, I just wanna point out that your views are skewed, unfair and not balanced. Every MBA course has its strengths and weaknesses. If you have lived in SIngapore for 6 years, well I have lived in Singapore all my life. Did you even do your national service in Singapore, and push yourself to be in the top 10% and enter OCS? did you grow up having Singaporeans as your classmates in the schools here? Otherwise, you know NOTHING about Singapore and don't claim to be an expert in one, in the educational institutes or otherwise.
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lukeh
I'm sorry, what has National Service got to do with anything? Or, for that matter, whether someone has been in the country for 6 years or 60? If you take issue with Ramdi's comments, then tell us why, properly and in detail, with some evidence - anecdotal, at least - to back up your argument. Simply being Singaporean isn't an argument, and borders on xenophobia, no?
I'm sorry, what has National Service got to do with anything? Or, for that matter, whether someone has been in the country for 6 years or 60? If you take issue with Ramdi's comments, then tell us why, properly and in detail, with some evidence - anecdotal, at least - to back up your argument. Simply being Singaporean isn't an argument, and borders on xenophobia, no?
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hotshott
That is correct, I was taking issue with Ramdi, who claimed that being in Singapore for 6 years he therefore knows whatever there is to know about the education system here in Singapore. Are you his side-kick?

I, therefore, asked him if he has done national service here in Singapore, simple as that, which I have not seen him answering. To me, you'll only know what's there in the Singapore education system if you have actually studied in Singapore and having Singaporeans as your classmates. Otherwise, like i said don't try assume expertise in the educational institutes here and burst Anil's and Jocelyn's enthusiasm on the MBA course in PSB Academy. What about you, did you study in RJC? Nothing to do with Xenophobia my friend. Where are you from, India?

Does working in Infineon Technologies and having lived in Singapore for the past 6 years give Ramdi the right to say blatantly that the MBA course at PSB academy has ZERO value? I'm taking issue with that too. Like i said, every MBA course has its strengths and its weakness.
That is correct, I was taking issue with Ramdi, who claimed that being in Singapore for 6 years he therefore knows whatever there is to know about the education system here in Singapore. Are you his side-kick?

I, therefore, asked him if he has done national service here in Singapore, simple as that, which I have not seen him answering. To me, you'll only know what's there in the Singapore education system if you have actually studied in Singapore and having Singaporeans as your classmates. Otherwise, like i said don't try assume expertise in the educational institutes here and burst Anil's and Jocelyn's enthusiasm on the MBA course in PSB Academy. What about you, did you study in RJC? Nothing to do with Xenophobia my friend. Where are you from, India?

Does working in Infineon Technologies and having lived in Singapore for the past 6 years give Ramdi the right to say blatantly that the MBA course at PSB academy has ZERO value? I'm taking issue with that too. Like i said, every MBA course has its strengths and its weakness.
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ramdi
Hi Hotshott,
Empty vessels make hollow sounds. Don't mislead readers into considering PSB academy as some kind of great university providing quality MBA programs. I don't come to this site very often hence the delay in replying to your crap! (sorry, adopting your kind of language to answer your questions...)
PSB academy is one of the many so-called 'private' universities in Singapore which are currently under government scanner to evaluate the kind of MBA programmes they offer (Straits Times, Oct 21). Every good college will give you an MBA degree of their own but if you visit their site, they have following MBA degrees to award -
? California State University, Long Beach
? Loughborough University
? The University of Newcastle, Australia
? The University of Nottingham
? The University of Western Australia
? University of London
? The University of Wollongong, Australia
Yes, you can choose anyone of these as per your liking :-)

Most of the students joining such courses are the ones coming from neighboring South-East Asian countries where education oportunities are next to nil. Other group is the Mainland Chinese who register in such colleges to get the visa to stay in Singapore. And then there are Singaporeans joining these programmes who were never good enough to get in their own local university and want a degree to show on their resume. They eventually end up doing sales/marketing jobs for local companies for $2K or less (or in that order). Bright Singaporeans prefer to do their MBAs from USA or UK and if that's not possible, then from local universities like NUS, NTU and SMU (besides INSEAD).Some leftovers also look towards Australia, and then crap of the lot, to show off a degree on their resume, turn to such schools. That's hard and cold fact and it's time to swallow it, Hotshott.

Also, there is no need to do NS to know how's the education scene in Singapore. Going by your analogy, one can only know well about the quality of USA or UK schools if one is born there....right? Six years time is more than enough to know a place with size 25km * 20km, with only 3 universities of its own. You don't have to be a mathematician to know that 2*2 is 4, got it? As a senior position holder in a technology MNC, we don't even look at resumes with qualifications from such universities, forget about finance or consulting companies.....

To conclude my point, it may be wiser for people like you (locals) to join such institutes to upgrade their skills but asking someone from other countries just to come here to join such schools will be a waste of their time and money. And that's why I suggested Anil (who seems to be an Indian) and Jocelyn to look for better schools like INSEAD/NUS/NTU/SMU if they want to do their MBA from SIngapore.


That is correct, I was taking issue with Ramdi, who claimed that being in Singapore for 6 years he therefore knows whatever there is to know about the education system here in Singapore. Are you his side-kick?

I, therefore, asked him if he has done national service here in Singapore, simple as that, which I have not seen him answering. To me, you'll only know what's there in the Singapore education system if you have actually studied in Singapore and having Singaporeans as your classmates. Otherwise, like i said don't try assume expertise in the educational institutes here and burst Anil's and Jocelyn's enthusiasm on the MBA course in PSB Academy. What about you, did you study in RJC? Nothing to do with Xenophobia my friend. Where are you from, India?

Does working in Infineon Technologies and having lived in Singapore for the past 6 years give Ramdi the right to say blatantly that the MBA course at PSB academy has ZERO value? I'm taking issue with that too. Like i said, every MBA course has its strengths and its weakness.
Hi Hotshott,
Empty vessels make hollow sounds. Don't mislead readers into considering PSB academy as some kind of great university providing quality MBA programs. I don't come to this site very often hence the delay in replying to your crap! (sorry, adopting your kind of language to answer your questions...)
PSB academy is one of the many so-called 'private' universities in Singapore which are currently under government scanner to evaluate the kind of MBA programmes they offer (Straits Times, Oct 21). Every good college will give you an MBA degree of their own but if you visit their site, they have following MBA degrees to award -
? California State University, Long Beach
? Loughborough University
? The University of Newcastle, Australia
? The University of Nottingham
? The University of Western Australia
? University of London
? The University of Wollongong, Australia
Yes, you can choose anyone of these as per your liking :-)

Most of the students joining such courses are the ones coming from neighboring South-East Asian countries where education oportunities are next to nil. Other group is the Mainland Chinese who register in such colleges to get the visa to stay in Singapore. And then there are Singaporeans joining these programmes who were never good enough to get in their own local university and want a degree to show on their resume. They eventually end up doing sales/marketing jobs for local companies for $2K or less (or in that order). Bright Singaporeans prefer to do their MBAs from USA or UK and if that's not possible, then from local universities like NUS, NTU and SMU (besides INSEAD).Some leftovers also look towards Australia, and then crap of the lot, to show off a degree on their resume, turn to such schools. That's hard and cold fact and it's time to swallow it, Hotshott.

Also, there is no need to do NS to know how's the education scene in Singapore. Going by your analogy, one can only know well about the quality of USA or UK schools if one is born there....right? Six years time is more than enough to know a place with size 25km * 20km, with only 3 universities of its own. You don't have to be a mathematician to know that 2*2 is 4, got it? As a senior position holder in a technology MNC, we don't even look at resumes with qualifications from such universities, forget about finance or consulting companies.....

To conclude my point, it may be wiser for people like you (locals) to join such institutes to upgrade their skills but asking someone from other countries just to come here to join such schools will be a waste of their time and money. And that's why I suggested Anil (who seems to be an Indian) and Jocelyn to look for better schools like INSEAD/NUS/NTU/SMU if they want to do their MBA from SIngapore.



<blockquote>That is correct, I was taking issue with Ramdi, who claimed that being in Singapore for 6 years he therefore knows whatever there is to know about the education system here in Singapore. Are you his side-kick?

I, therefore, asked him if he has done national service here in Singapore, simple as that, which I have not seen him answering. To me, you'll only know what's there in the Singapore education system if you have actually studied in Singapore and having Singaporeans as your classmates. Otherwise, like i said don't try assume expertise in the educational institutes here and burst Anil's and Jocelyn's enthusiasm on the MBA course in PSB Academy. What about you, did you study in RJC? Nothing to do with Xenophobia my friend. Where are you from, India?

Does working in Infineon Technologies and having lived in Singapore for the past 6 years give Ramdi the right to say blatantly that the MBA course at PSB academy has ZERO value? I'm taking issue with that too. Like i said, every MBA course has its strengths and its weakness. </blockquote>
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hotshott
misleading others you say? The only one that does that from the beginning of the thread is you ! oh sure, senior position in a technology MNC (read "Infineon Technologies"), like you're an engineer right? In that case, you better don't waste your time here and get back to work before I start shorting your company's stocks and bring it down to its knees.

And please do not even condescend the "locals" - there I must honestly warn you before you cross that line- or the government is going to watch your every move mr "foreign talent". In this current recession, I do hope the first ones to get fired are foreign talents like yourself.That is correct, I am a citizen here (thats why I do national service) and i must say I am not keen on foreign talents like you in here. As a gracious Singaporean citizen though, I must bid you an early farewell (and good riddance, perhaps?). All the best in your next job - I advise you to start sending your resumes by the end of this week, alright my friend?

Now back to the topic proper, I stand by my opinions that every MBA course has its strength and weakness. Just saying that the degree has "no value in the job market" reflects sheer arrogance on your part. Unless of course, you're the top MBA student graduating from Havard Business School. Otherwise, please reflect a more balanced view on all MBA courses.That's it, I'm done with you.
misleading others you say? The only one that does that from the beginning of the thread is you ! oh sure, senior position in a technology MNC (read "Infineon Technologies"), like you're an engineer right? In that case, you better don't waste your time here and get back to work before I start shorting your company's stocks and bring it down to its knees.

And please do not even condescend the "locals" - there I must honestly warn you before you cross that line- or the government is going to watch your every move mr "foreign talent". In this current recession, I do hope the first ones to get fired are foreign talents like yourself.That is correct, I am a citizen here (thats why I do national service) and i must say I am not keen on foreign talents like you in here. As a gracious Singaporean citizen though, I must bid you an early farewell (and good riddance, perhaps?). All the best in your next job - I advise you to start sending your resumes by the end of this week, alright my friend?

Now back to the topic proper, I stand by my opinions that every MBA course has its strength and weakness. Just saying that the degree has "no value in the job market" reflects sheer arrogance on your part. Unless of course, you're the top MBA student graduating from Havard Business School. Otherwise, please reflect a more balanced view on all MBA courses.That's it, I'm done with you.
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ramdi
Oh! You really seem to be one mover-n-shaker, capable of bringing big companies to their knees by shorting their shares, interesting? :-)
Yes, I used to work as Project Manager for Infineon but not anymore, so hard luck there. From your post, it seems that you have more to say against immigrants and less about the quality of PSB MBAs? Good for you, keep living in your dream world. I am sure anyone who knows about what a 'quality' MBA means and who has done a good research on B-schools will visit PSB academy website and get the correct picture.
Good luck to you!
(By the way, I am an SPR and look forward to my association with Singapore in future too. I have purchased a house too in your business district 9 and feel as Singaporean as you do about yourself - NS or no NS! :-)

misleading others you say? The only one that does that from the beginning of the thread is you ! oh sure, senior position in a technology MNC (read "Infineon Technologies"), like you're an engineer right? In that case, you better don't waste your time here and get back to work before I start shorting your company's stocks and bring it down to its knees.

And please do not even condescend the "locals" - there I must honestly warn you before you cross that line- or the government is going to watch your every move mr "foreign talent". In this current recession, I do hope the first ones to get fired are foreign talents like yourself.That is correct, I am a citizen here (thats why I do national service) and i must say I am not keen on foreign talents like you in here. As a gracious Singaporean citizen though, I must bid you an early farewell (and good riddance, perhaps?). All the best in your next job - I advise you to start sending your resumes by the end of this week, alright my friend?

Now back to the topic proper, I stand by my opinions that every MBA course has its strength and weakness. Just saying that the degree has "no value in the job market" reflects sheer arrogance on your part. Unless of course, you're the top MBA student graduating from Havard Business School. Otherwise, please reflect a more balanced view on all MBA courses.That's it, I'm done with you.
Oh! You really seem to be one mover-n-shaker, capable of bringing big companies to their knees by shorting their shares, interesting? :-)
Yes, I used to work as Project Manager for Infineon but not anymore, so hard luck there. From your post, it seems that you have more to say against immigrants and less about the quality of PSB MBAs? Good for you, keep living in your dream world. I am sure anyone who knows about what a 'quality' MBA means and who has done a good research on B-schools will visit PSB academy website and get the correct picture.
Good luck to you!
(By the way, I am an SPR and look forward to my association with Singapore in future too. I have purchased a house too in your business district 9 and feel as Singaporean as you do about yourself - NS or no NS! :-)

<blockquote>misleading others you say? The only one that does that from the beginning of the thread is you ! oh sure, senior position in a technology MNC (read "Infineon Technologies"), like you're an engineer right? In that case, you better don't waste your time here and get back to work before I start shorting your company's stocks and bring it down to its knees.

And please do not even condescend the "locals" - there I must honestly warn you before you cross that line- or the government is going to watch your every move mr "foreign talent". In this current recession, I do hope the first ones to get fired are foreign talents like yourself.That is correct, I am a citizen here (thats why I do national service) and i must say I am not keen on foreign talents like you in here. As a gracious Singaporean citizen though, I must bid you an early farewell (and good riddance, perhaps?). All the best in your next job - I advise you to start sending your resumes by the end of this week, alright my friend?

Now back to the topic proper, I stand by my opinions that every MBA course has its strength and weakness. Just saying that the degree has "no value in the job market" reflects sheer arrogance on your part. Unless of course, you're the top MBA student graduating from Havard Business School. Otherwise, please reflect a more balanced view on all MBA courses.That's it, I'm done with you.</blockquote>
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lukeh
I think the clue as to his real feelings was this gem:

"Nothing to do with Xenophobia my friend. Where are you from, India?"

Personally, if I were trying to construct a coherent argument I wouldn't place those two sentences together.

So come on, enlighten us....what have you got against Indians? Or is it just Indians in Singapore you can't tolerate?
I think the clue as to his real feelings was this gem:

"Nothing to do with Xenophobia my friend. Where are you from, India?"

Personally, if I were trying to construct a coherent argument I wouldn't place those two sentences together.

So come on, enlighten us....what have you got against Indians? Or is it just Indians in Singapore you can't tolerate?
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Interesting Comments from hotshott and ramdi. I think - Not everyone is genius to get top institutes. Some do have to go for private institutes like PSB Academy to excel and upgrade their skills from their present. But that doesn't mean they are not skillful. I know lot of people who maintain very low profile - graduated from small institutes, you would not even heard of but are doing a great job for their organisation. Its sad that - Senior People in big Companies judge profile based on University and not individual skills and the requirement matching profile.

Anyways - Few Questions are still unanswered for me which i consider important in selecting B- school. I would appreciate if anyone can share some balance view:

1. What is the average placement in PSB Academy for Full time 1 yr course say from New Castle University ? No diplomatic answers please.
2. What is the average pay like?
3. What all companies visit PSB?
4. Course contents are available online. Can anyone evaluate compare with top 3 institutes in Singapore?

Answers to any of these questions will be helpful. Please share.
Interesting Comments from hotshott and ramdi. I think - Not everyone is genius to get top institutes. Some do have to go for private institutes like PSB Academy to excel and upgrade their skills from their present. But that doesn't mean they are not skillful. I know lot of people who maintain very low profile - graduated from small institutes, you would not even heard of but are doing a great job for their organisation. Its sad that - Senior People in big Companies judge profile based on University and not individual skills and the requirement matching profile.

Anyways - Few Questions are still unanswered for me which i consider important in selecting B- school. I would appreciate if anyone can share some balance view:

1. What is the average placement in PSB Academy for Full time 1 yr course say from New Castle University ? No diplomatic answers please.
2. What is the average pay like?
3. What all companies visit PSB?
4. Course contents are available online. Can anyone evaluate compare with top 3 institutes in Singapore?

Answers to any of these questions will be helpful. Please share.
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SabrinaA
I think the clue as to his real feelings was this gem:

"Nothing to do with Xenophobia my friend. Where are you from, India?"

Personally, if I were trying to construct a coherent argument I wouldn't place those two sentences together.

So come on, enlighten us....what have you got against Indians? Or is it just Indians in Singapore you can't tolerate?



lol!!

The Asian thread is sure interesting.

I dont think Lukeh is an Indian...Well, I am...but what has lukeh or Indians got to do with the PSB??!!! :) lol!

hotshott wrote a lot but I coudn't find a single statement which is in favor of PSB...unless facts are presented how can we assume that a B School is really good? Flashy website is not a good gauge...

And adding to that, there is a very good Indian B School in Singapore -- S.P.Jain (http://www.spjain.org/) ... The Indian Campus is the mother institution and is one of the notable business schools in India...

--Nes

--Nes
<blockquote>I think the clue as to his real feelings was this gem:

"Nothing to do with Xenophobia my friend. Where are you from, India?"

Personally, if I were trying to construct a coherent argument I wouldn't place those two sentences together.

So come on, enlighten us....what have you got against Indians? Or is it just Indians in Singapore you can't tolerate?</blockquote>


lol!!

The Asian thread is sure interesting.

I dont think Lukeh is an Indian...Well, I am...but what has lukeh or Indians got to do with the PSB??!!! :) lol!

hotshott wrote a lot but I coudn't find a single statement which is in favor of PSB...unless facts are presented how can we assume that a B School is really good? Flashy website is not a good gauge...

And adding to that, there is a very good Indian B School in Singapore -- S.P.Jain (http://www.spjain.org/) ... The Indian Campus is the mother institution and is one of the notable business schools in India...

--Nes

--Nes
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saritaroy
Hi
I am looking for a b-school for doing my MBA this yr.so can anyone give me the details about PSB Academy????What are the facilities that PSB is providing????How can i apply for MBA there?????
Hi
I am looking for a b-school for doing my MBA this yr.so can anyone give me the details about PSB Academy????What are the facilities that PSB is providing????How can i apply for MBA there?????
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In partnership with The University of Newcastle, Australia, the School of Business is offering a MBA at PSB Academy.For admission a non-refundable registration fee to be made payable to 'PSB ACADEMY' by cheque or money order.

As you are a Indian,I would suggest you another good B-school for MBA there.It is Accord School of Businesss.Being a venture of Accord Media group they have huge corporate connections which facilitate our industrial exposure and training. Apart from this they are also providing an industrial Exposure in Singapore and best faculties from the industry.

best of luck for your admission.
In partnership with The University of Newcastle, Australia, the School of Business is offering a MBA at PSB Academy.For admission a non-refundable registration fee to be made payable to 'PSB ACADEMY' by cheque or money order.

As you are a Indian,I would suggest you another good B-school for MBA there.It is Accord School of Businesss.Being a venture of Accord Media group they have huge corporate connections which facilitate our industrial exposure and training. Apart from this they are also providing an industrial Exposure in Singapore and best faculties from the industry.

best of luck for your admission.


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rachit J
I would appreciate if anyone can give share some honest views

1. What is the average placement in PSB Academy for Full time 1 yr course say from New Castle University ? No diplomatic answers please.
2. What is the average pay like?
3. What all companies visit PSB?
4. Course contents are available online. Can anyone evaluate compare with top 3 institutes in Singapore?

Answers to any of these questions will be helpful. Please share.
I would appreciate if anyone can give share some honest views

1. What is the average placement in PSB Academy for Full time 1 yr course say from New Castle University ? No diplomatic answers please.
2. What is the average pay like?
3. What all companies visit PSB?
4. Course contents are available online. Can anyone evaluate compare with top 3 institutes in Singapore?

Answers to any of these questions will be helpful. Please share. </blockquote>
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ali1
I would appreciate if anyone can give share some honest views
1. What is the average placement in PSB Academy for Full time 1 yr course say from New Castle University ? No diplomatic answers please.
2. What is the average pay like?
3. What all companies visit PSB?
4. Course contents are available online. Can anyone evaluate compare with top 3 institutes in Singapore?
Answers to any of these questions will be helpful. Please share.
[quote] I would appreciate if anyone can give share some honest views
1. What is the average placement in PSB Academy for Full time 1 yr course say from New Castle University ? No diplomatic answers please.
2. What is the average pay like?
3. What all companies visit PSB?
4. Course contents are available online. Can anyone evaluate compare with top 3 institutes in Singapore?
Answers to any of these questions will be helpful. Please share. </blockquote>[/quote]
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