NUS vs HKUST


mtks

Hi, I wonder which one I should go between NUS and HKUST. I am working in Singapore now and I would go back to Singapore after glad to do business in Southeast Asia for next 5 years. I never care about job opportunity because I will go back to original company. I know NUS is very logical choice to learn about S/E Asian business and make personal network within the region. But, I also put importance on quality and diversity of classes and faculty to get good education. I've heard that HKUST was very good in terms of these criteria. Many rankings show its excellence too. On the other hand, regarding NUS, I am not sure but some of people say it does not provide diversity and high quality. I hope your any comment about the schools, especially NUS. Thanks.

Hi, I wonder which one I should go between NUS and HKUST. I am working in Singapore now and I would go back to Singapore after glad to do business in Southeast Asia for next 5 years. I never care about job opportunity because I will go back to original company. I know NUS is very logical choice to learn about S/E Asian business and make personal network within the region. But, I also put importance on quality and diversity of classes and faculty to get good education. I've heard that HKUST was very good in terms of these criteria. Many rankings show its excellence too. On the other hand, regarding NUS, I am not sure but some of people say it does not provide diversity and high quality. I hope your any comment about the schools, especially NUS. Thanks.
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mtks

Additionally, I work for consulting industry not finance. I am not Singaporean or Chinese.

Additionally, I work for consulting industry not finance. I am not Singaporean or Chinese.
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theredstar

Additionally, I work for consulting industry not finance. I am not Singaporean or Chinese.


for consulting i would try Insead-Singapore.
between NUS and HKUST i think its a no brainer especially that you already have job placement secure.
since you are already in Singapore, studying elsewhere would help you grow a lot more.

<blockquote>Additionally, I work for consulting industry not finance. I am not Singaporean or Chinese.</blockquote>

for consulting i would try Insead-Singapore.
between NUS and HKUST i think its a no brainer especially that you already have job placement secure.
since you are already in Singapore, studying elsewhere would help you grow a lot more.
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mtks

Thank you for the comment. In fact, I wonder whether I could learn about S/E Asia as well as China in HKUST, and make useful network for my future business in S/E Asia. I am also not sure that NUS provides good education and class environment compared with HKUST. Does anyone have any comments on NUS?

Thank you for the comment. In fact, I wonder whether I could learn about S/E Asia as well as China in HKUST, and make useful network for my future business in S/E Asia. I am also not sure that NUS provides good education and class environment compared with HKUST. Does anyone have any comments on NUS?
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ralph

Since (I'm assuming) you're planning on staying in Singapore, I'd be inclined to go with NUS. Reason being that networking in either location will most likely lead to jobs and resources in that location. If you're in Hong Kong I would think you'd be hard pressed to make it to Singapore often solely for networking.

The other side of the coin is that, since you're already working there, you may have your own built in network in Singapore. If that's the case, Hong Kong may provide more "fresh blood," so to speak.

NUS is a good school. I was just able to see some of their recent career placement statistics, and over 90% of graduating students have employment within three months of graduation. Not too shabby, but the stats don't indicate where they end up, be it in Singapore or elsewhere.

Since (I'm assuming) you're planning on staying in Singapore, I'd be inclined to go with NUS. Reason being that networking in either location will most likely lead to jobs and resources in that location. If you're in Hong Kong I would think you'd be hard pressed to make it to Singapore often solely for networking.

The other side of the coin is that, since you're already working there, you may have your own built in network in Singapore. If that's the case, Hong Kong may provide more "fresh blood," so to speak.

NUS is a good school. I was just able to see some of their recent career placement statistics, and over 90% of graduating students have employment within three months of graduation. Not too shabby, but the stats don't indicate where they end up, be it in Singapore or elsewhere.
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mtks

Thanks for you comment. That is the point which I concern. But I worry that NUS does not provide diversity. I heard that Its classes were occupied by only a few nationalities. Is it true?

Thanks for you comment. That is the point which I concern. But I worry that NUS does not provide diversity. I heard that Its classes were occupied by only a few nationalities. Is it true?
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Malia

This thread (you may have read) deals with the same question (NUS or HKUST):

http://www.find-mba.com/board/5926

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"the knock on NUS has always been its disproportionate % of second grade Indian students. Faculty/electives are second grade at best as well. Anyone with a better background will go to Insead and perhaps Hong Kong UST."

I know NUS is popular in India. But it's also the best known university in South East Asia, globally speaking.

This thread (you may have read) deals with the same question (NUS or HKUST):

http://www.find-mba.com/board/5926

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"the knock on NUS has always been its disproportionate % of second grade Indian students. Faculty/electives are second grade at best as well. Anyone with a better background will go to Insead and perhaps Hong Kong UST."

I know NUS is popular in India. But it's also the best known university in South East Asia, globally speaking.
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mtks

This thread (you may have read) deals with the same question (NUS or HKUST):

http://www.find-mba.com/board/5926

I know NUS is popular in India. But it's also the best known university in South East Asia, globally speaking.


Thanks a lot. Yeah, I read that thread already.... But, I wondered HKUST might be very exaggerated. This is why I would like to know about HKUST and NUS more in detail. Does anyone have any other points of view for HKUST and NUS? I know both would be good schools but NUS dropped out in FT ranking this year while HKUST rose up 9th. I would like to know the cause.

Thank you for your comments.

<blockquote>This thread (you may have read) deals with the same question (NUS or HKUST):

http://www.find-mba.com/board/5926

I know NUS is popular in India. But it's also the best known university in South East Asia, globally speaking.</blockquote>

Thanks a lot. Yeah, I read that thread already.... But, I wondered HKUST might be very exaggerated. This is why I would like to know about HKUST and NUS more in detail. Does anyone have any other points of view for HKUST and NUS? I know both would be good schools but NUS dropped out in FT ranking this year while HKUST rose up 9th. I would like to know the cause.

Thank you for your comments.
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Rhino

NUS; University of South-east Asia.
HK-UST; University of East Asia.
Not much difference, except that ppl are tanned at NUS (because more sunshine).

I went to NUS info session at the RITZ-CARLTON and they give each one of the attendance hardcopy of "Blue Ocean Strategy".
Quite impressive...

I also went to HK-UST to check out the school.
The school's facilities are extremely inadequate to be called top business school.
Maybe the brand name in H.K. Worth the money.
But not the school's facilities, they're Horrible.

NUS; University of South-east Asia.
HK-UST; University of East Asia.
Not much difference, except that ppl are tanned at NUS (because more sunshine).

I went to NUS info session at the RITZ-CARLTON and they give each one of the attendance hardcopy of "Blue Ocean Strategy".
Quite impressive...

I also went to HK-UST to check out the school.
The school's facilities are extremely inadequate to be called top business school.
Maybe the brand name in H.K. Worth the money.
But not the school's facilities, they're Horrible.
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mtks

Thank you!. But, I wonder "Blue Ocean Strategy" might be produced by INSEAD's professor?

Thank you!. But, I wonder "Blue Ocean Strategy" might be produced by INSEAD's professor?
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Rhino

You are absolutely correct. 'blue ocean strategy' wa created by 2 INSEAD profs. But I am not a big fan of INSEAD myself.

You are absolutely correct. 'blue ocean strategy' wa created by 2 INSEAD profs. But I am not a big fan of INSEAD myself.
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mtks

Hi Rhino,
Thank you for reply. Could you tell me why you are not interested in INSEAD? Do you have any other preferred B-schools in Asia?

Thanks in advance!

Hi Rhino,
Thank you for reply. Could you tell me why you are not interested in INSEAD? Do you have any other preferred B-schools in Asia?

Thanks in advance!
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Rhino

When I said I'm not interested with INSEAD program because:

Tuition is 51,000 euro for 11 month of study feels too expensive, of course this is the same as going to IE and IMD.

If you ever been to INSEAD campus in singapore, you'll know that the campus is in the middle of nowhere. The facilities are limited, I don't see any gym, swimming pool, huge library, etc, it feels that with 51,000 euro you can find school with better facilities.

Note that I've spent my undergrad years in U.S. So I'm used with gorgeous campus, art museum, classes on hilltop, gymnastic, swimming pools, football and basketball games, student demonstration. This is considered a norm in U.S. Schools.

I know my reasoning doesn't make sense to some people.
But I feels that with the same amount of money, you can have better education experience inside and outside classroom.

When I said I'm not interested with INSEAD program because:

Tuition is 51,000 euro for 11 month of study feels too expensive, of course this is the same as going to IE and IMD.

If you ever been to INSEAD campus in singapore, you'll know that the campus is in the middle of nowhere. The facilities are limited, I don't see any gym, swimming pool, huge library, etc, it feels that with 51,000 euro you can find school with better facilities.

Note that I've spent my undergrad years in U.S. So I'm used with gorgeous campus, art museum, classes on hilltop, gymnastic, swimming pools, football and basketball games, student demonstration. This is considered a norm in U.S. Schools.

I know my reasoning doesn't make sense to some people.
But I feels that with the same amount of money, you can have better education experience inside and outside classroom.
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mtks

I see your opinion though students can also stay in French if they spend a lot. Anyway, Do you consider other B-schools in Asia?

I see your opinion though students can also stay in French if they spend a lot. Anyway, Do you consider other B-schools in Asia?
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Rhino

In asia, there are a lot of schools worth mentioning:
NUS, NTU, HK-UST, CUHK, CEIBS, Tsing hua.

Some schools that will be on the top100 MBA in the future:
Peking univ, SMU (singapore), Univ of H.K.

The best facilities I have seen so far is NUS.
of course I haven't been to schools in H.K. and china (except HK-UST).
If you go to these schools, do manage your expectation.
Do not expect that you'll be getting Top notch facilities.
If Harvard campus is 5-star hotel, then schools in asia are 3-star hotels.

Of course with lower tuition fee, you cannot expect much.

In asia, there are a lot of schools worth mentioning:
NUS, NTU, HK-UST, CUHK, CEIBS, Tsing hua.

Some schools that will be on the top100 MBA in the future:
Peking univ, SMU (singapore), Univ of H.K.

The best facilities I have seen so far is NUS.
of course I haven't been to schools in H.K. and china (except HK-UST).
If you go to these schools, do manage your expectation.
Do not expect that you'll be getting Top notch facilities.
If Harvard campus is 5-star hotel, then schools in asia are 3-star hotels.

Of course with lower tuition fee, you cannot expect much.
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mtks

I have heard the facilities of NUS B-School was renovated. Did you mention about new facilities of NUS B-School. NUS is so large university that it can have prentiful facilities. But, I am not sure the NUS's facilities for b-school is better than other Asian b-schools. I have been to HK-UST and I felt the facilities of them for B-schools are as well as NUS's... Does anyone have other comments?

I have heard the facilities of NUS B-School was renovated. Did you mention about new facilities of NUS B-School. NUS is so large university that it can have prentiful facilities. But, I am not sure the NUS's facilities for b-school is better than other Asian b-schools. I have been to HK-UST and I felt the facilities of them for B-schools are as well as NUS's... Does anyone have other comments?
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Rhino

I know that NUS Business school will have its brand new 'Mochtar Riady' building.
It sure looks nice from outside, but I haven't seen the inside yet.

Note that Mochtar Riady is the founder of Lippo group from Indonesia.
Their business has expanded into singapore, mostly in luxury apartments/condominiums.
So I won't be surprised if the new NUS building will be close to a luxurious campus.

IMHO, NUS facilities is on par with HK-UST except for the new 'Mochtar Riady' building.
If I can choose school based on its campus, I'll take NUS anyday.

I know that NUS Business school will have its brand new 'Mochtar Riady' building.
It sure looks nice from outside, but I haven't seen the inside yet.

Note that Mochtar Riady is the founder of Lippo group from Indonesia.
Their business has expanded into singapore, mostly in luxury apartments/condominiums.
So I won't be surprised if the new NUS building will be close to a luxurious campus.

IMHO, NUS facilities is on par with HK-UST except for the new 'Mochtar Riady' building.
If I can choose school based on its campus, I'll take NUS anyday.
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mtks

Couldn't anyone provide any comments about NUS in terms of quality of classes? How about Nanyang as well?

Couldn't anyone provide any comments about NUS in terms of quality of classes? How about Nanyang as well?
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fishball

I think despite not having a full blown campus, INSEAD is would probably enable you to get a better job than if you were to go to NUS.

I guess the best way would be to compare career placements. An MBA is to give you new skills and career advancement, not necessarily give you a good life on the campus. Are you there to use the gym or to get a decent job?

I think despite not having a full blown campus, INSEAD is would probably enable you to get a better job than if you were to go to NUS.

I guess the best way would be to compare career placements. An MBA is to give you new skills and career advancement, not necessarily give you a good life on the campus. Are you there to use the gym or to get a decent job?
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bianca

Hi, I wonder which one I should go between NUS and HKUST. I am working in Singapore now and I would go back to Singapore after glad to do business in Southeast Asia for next 5 years. I never care about job opportunity because I will go back to original company. I know NUS is very logical choice to learn about S/E Asian business and make personal network within the region. But, I also put importance on quality and diversity of classes and faculty to get good education. I've heard that HKUST was very good in terms of these criteria. Many rankings show its excellence too. On the other hand, regarding NUS, I am not sure but some of people say it does not provide diversity and high quality. I hope your any comment about the schools, especially NUS. Thanks.

Additionally, I work for consulting industry not finance. I am not Singaporean or Chinese.

Hi,

I'm taking into account that you're already working in Consulting and that you're not looking for a job immediatly after your MBA since you'll be going back to your Consulting job.

I'm also taking into account the fact that you're looking for quality and diversity of classes and faculty, and the fact that you have a drive to work in South East Asia in the mid-term.

As a few others pointed out, INSEAD is probably going to be a good choice. But since you're already in Consulting, it may not be as critical. Additionally, I'm not sure about whether people studying at INSEAD Singapore actually have a professional "project" for South East Asia. To me it seems more like INSEAD is in France and that the Singapore hub acts like a field trip to students looking for internationalisation. You should try to verify that by contacting people who study/studied there.

Right now, I'm thinking that if you'd like to work in Singapore, NUS would provide you the right teachers for that. These teachers, along with the university faculty, are not just interested in creating the international corporate elite, but also in studying/teaching/upholding SE Asian values. To me, such a choice is like choosing INSEAD or Tsinghua if you want to work in China.
Also, please be aware that if you're looking to add a European/French flavour to your MBA, NUS also proposes a double degree with HEC.

<blockquote>Hi, I wonder which one I should go between NUS and HKUST. I am working in Singapore now and I would go back to Singapore after glad to do business in Southeast Asia for next 5 years. I never care about job opportunity because I will go back to original company. I know NUS is very logical choice to learn about S/E Asian business and make personal network within the region. But, I also put importance on quality and diversity of classes and faculty to get good education. I've heard that HKUST was very good in terms of these criteria. Many rankings show its excellence too. On the other hand, regarding NUS, I am not sure but some of people say it does not provide diversity and high quality. I hope your any comment about the schools, especially NUS. Thanks.</blockquote>
<blockquote>Additionally, I work for consulting industry not finance. I am not Singaporean or Chinese.</blockquote>
Hi,

I'm taking into account that you're already working in Consulting and that you're not looking for a job immediatly after your MBA since you'll be going back to your Consulting job.

I'm also taking into account the fact that you're looking for quality and diversity of classes and faculty, and the fact that you have a drive to work in South East Asia in the mid-term.

As a few others pointed out, INSEAD is probably going to be a good choice. But since you're already in Consulting, it may not be as critical. Additionally, I'm not sure about whether people studying at INSEAD Singapore actually have a professional "project" for South East Asia. To me it seems more like INSEAD is in France and that the Singapore hub acts like a field trip to students looking for internationalisation. You should try to verify that by contacting people who study/studied there.

Right now, I'm thinking that if you'd like to work in Singapore, NUS would provide you the right teachers for that. These teachers, along with the university faculty, are not just interested in creating the international corporate elite, but also in studying/teaching/upholding SE Asian values. To me, such a choice is like choosing INSEAD or Tsinghua if you want to work in China.
Also, please be aware that if you're looking to add a European/French flavour to your MBA, NUS also proposes a double degree with HEC.
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