Hello,
After a 11 years stay in the west (US, UK, Finland, Germany) as software developer and project/programme manager, I am returning back to India for good.
Before getting back to work force, I would like to take a year sabbatical - a full time programme in a top Indian school. I know it is damn hard to get into these schools in the first place - let alone choose between them!
1. IIM Ahmedabad - PGPX
2. IIM Calcutta - PGPEX
3. IIM Bangalore - EPGP
4. ISB Hyderabad - PGP
Any good advice on these schools especially for the IT sector?
Thanks
Going home
Posted Nov 30, 2011 11:57
After a 11 years stay in the west (US, UK, Finland, Germany) as software developer and project/programme manager, I am returning back to India for good.
Before getting back to work force, I would like to take a year sabbatical - a full time programme in a top Indian school. I know it is damn hard to get into these schools in the first place - let alone choose between them!
1. IIM Ahmedabad - PGPX
2. IIM Calcutta - PGPEX
3. IIM Bangalore - EPGP
4. ISB Hyderabad - PGP
Any good advice on these schools especially for the IT sector?
Thanks
Posted Nov 30, 2011 12:44
From my research on this subject, I understand that IIMs are the best for placements and ROI - similar to LBS in the UK.
Especially IIM-B for tech industry. Any comments?
Especially IIM-B for tech industry. Any comments?
Posted Nov 30, 2011 13:50
The IIMs will probably have a much higher percentage of students being placed through on-campus recruiting than LBS. IIM-A certainly is: it's ranked 14th of the top 100 business schools for placement, according to the FT; LBS is 41st. In Europe, students often have to network their way into jobs.
Posted Dec 01, 2011 13:20
Thanks Duncan. I spoke to a current student at IIM-A. The PGPX seem to be pretty good in terms of placement, in the current batch each student had at least 1 offer in the campus interviews and most of them have signed up the contract within 4 months of the start of the course! I guess it is unimaginable in the western schools.
Also noted that in the FT ranking IIM-A has given it's PGPX (1 year) programme stats rather than its 2 year PGP programme stats. So the salary component beats the international standard.
Also noted that in the FT ranking IIM-A has given it's PGPX (1 year) programme stats rather than its 2 year PGP programme stats. So the salary component beats the international standard.
Posted Dec 01, 2011 13:38
Yes, the pre-experience PGP is ranked 7th in the FT's pre-experience MSc ranking: http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/masters-in-management-2011
Posted Dec 01, 2011 13:45
WOW!.. No.1 in weighted salary - their pre-experience has top ranking and 100% employment in 3 months .. possibly before the end of the last term!
Posted Dec 01, 2011 14:08
Do keep us posted on your journey. Similar to yourself I am overseas almost my adulthood and interested in studying with an Indian institution as well.
Oddly being in IT for so long I don't make Chinese and Indian friends because my workplaces dont have many.
In Singapore there is SP Jain Center of Management. I talked to some Indian guys and they say not like American schools, referring to a few American EMBA in Singapore, SP Jain like other Indian schools teach you everything properly.
I suppose being foreigners give you a lot of advantages of getting into these schools, same like top Chinese schools like Tsinghua or Peking.
Find-MBA readers, if to choose between a top Chinese and a top Indian schools, what would you do?
Oddly being in IT for so long I don't make Chinese and Indian friends because my workplaces dont have many.
In Singapore there is SP Jain Center of Management. I talked to some Indian guys and they say not like American schools, referring to a few American EMBA in Singapore, SP Jain like other Indian schools teach you everything properly.
I suppose being foreigners give you a lot of advantages of getting into these schools, same like top Chinese schools like Tsinghua or Peking.
Find-MBA readers, if to choose between a top Chinese and a top Indian schools, what would you do?
Posted Dec 01, 2011 14:20
True. In order to encourage diversity in the class top Chinese and Indian schools relax their selection criteria for foreigners. May be lower GMAT, lower management experience etc.
I guess Indians who have obtained foreign nationality or foreign permanent residents have a better hand at IIMs.
But still the average GMAT score is 713.76 for the current batch. Scary !!!!
Looking at the GMAT.. getting admission in HBS, Wharton, etc could be easier than getting in to IIM-A !
http://www.iimahd.ernet.in/programmes/pgpx/current-batch-profile.html
I guess Indians who have obtained foreign nationality or foreign permanent residents have a better hand at IIMs.
But still the average GMAT score is 713.76 for the current batch. Scary !!!!
Looking at the GMAT.. getting admission in HBS, Wharton, etc could be easier than getting in to IIM-A !
http://www.iimahd.ernet.in/programmes/pgpx/current-batch-profile.html
Posted Dec 02, 2011 10:41
I've often wondered why there are not more foreigners at the top Indian schools. Knowing the pressured, test-oriented, Indian education system, and the sheer size of the pool of applicants for the IIMs, it's not so surprising that the GMAT scores are so high there. However, few Indian schools get even a tenth of their students from abroad, and many of them are from the Indian diaspora. Given the export-oriented nature of MBA roles in India, having 20% international students would add a huge amount to the cross-cultural competency of IIM graduates, and increase the schools' alumni networks internationally.
Posted Dec 02, 2011 11:11
One of the reasons was not letting foreign institutions to setup franchise or campus in India. This has hindered the international dimension of the programmes.
Also the region has a violence tendency that is not a strong encouraging sign to outsiders. China used tanks to grind their own people but only for political purposes. Whereas in India you can get blown up very randomly. (This of course is nothing compared to wars that should never be authorized nor waged).
Anyways, what would be a more attractive choice Tsinghua/Peking MBA or IIM MBA. Please comment.
Also the region has a violence tendency that is not a strong encouraging sign to outsiders. China used tanks to grind their own people but only for political purposes. Whereas in India you can get blown up very randomly. (This of course is nothing compared to wars that should never be authorized nor waged).
Anyways, what would be a more attractive choice Tsinghua/Peking MBA or IIM MBA. Please comment.
Posted Dec 02, 2011 12:20
donho, you scared the sh** out of me!
I guess I will look for milder places down south like IIM-B or ISB. Good for IT sector too.. less stressful than the IIM-A crowd!
I guess I will look for milder places down south like IIM-B or ISB. Good for IT sector too.. less stressful than the IIM-A crowd!
Posted Dec 02, 2011 16:17
Personally, I would go for the Chinese options: more diversity in the class; Westerners are valued more there; more or a learning curve; and no need to explain what a postgraduate diploma is (ay my university in Britain, for example, a postgraduate diploma was given to MSc candidates who fail their dissertation).
Posted Dec 02, 2011 17:01
I just saw this: by mid-November the entire cohort at IIMA had been placed for the following summer: http://www.iimahd.ernet.in/corporate/recruiters/recruitment-process/internship-recruitment.html
Posted Dec 02, 2011 22:19
Yes. Similar placement story here at IIM-B
http://www.iimb.ernet.in/sites/default/files/u181/EPGP2%20Placements.pdf
http://www.iimb.ernet.in/sites/default/files/u181/EPGP2%20Placements.pdf
Posted May 14, 2012 18:56
Hello vivekd # did u finally managed to get in to a Top Notch B School
Posted Oct 31, 2012 12:43
No, not yet.. :-(
Bad GMAT score - none of the IIMs will consider it.
Bad GMAT score - none of the IIMs will consider it.
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