MBA in Egypt at ESLSCA or somewhere else?!


Dear All


Hope you are in good health





I really need your help according to your experiences in the field of MBA, I am about to start my MBA, and there are intake will be by the end of this month which will be very suitable to me but I'm really got confused because the numbers of the business schools which they are different from prices and Accreditation





So i need to know if ESLSCA in Egypt will be Accredited in France or internationally?


does anyone knows the total fees of the study ?


and what about MBA - Swiss School of Management?


and MBA From European global school ?





So you hope you can help me with your answers soon as you can 


if you have any other recommendation i will be glad if you could share it  
thanks in advance

[Edited by Mahmoud Mohamed1 on Jun 19, 2020]

Dear All<br><br>
Hope you are in good health <br><br>
<br><br>
I really need your help according to your experiences in the field of MBA, I am about to start my MBA, and there are intake will be by the end of this month which will be very suitable to me but I'm really got confused because the numbers of the business schools which they are different from prices and Accreditation <br><br>
<br><br>
So i need to know if ESLSCA in Egypt will be Accredited in France or internationally?<br><br>
does anyone knows the total fees of the study ?<br><br>
and what about MBA - Swiss School of Management?<br><br>
and MBA From European global school ?<br><br>
<br><br>
So you hope you can help me with your answers soon as you can&nbsp;<br><br><br>if you have any other recommendation i will be glad if you could share it&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>thanks in advance
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Duncan

None of these are great options. 

The ESLSCA MBA is not a French state degree and does not have meaningful international accreditation.  However, while IT IS NOT grande Ecole is does appear to be registered with the government as a private school.

European Graduate School is much worse. It has ASIC accreditation, which does not allow it to issue degrees.  

PS Thanks to George for clarifying that ESLSCA is not a grande ecole. 

[Edited by Duncan on Jun 20, 2020]

None of these are great options.&nbsp;<br><br>The&nbsp;ESLSCA MBA is not a French state degree and does not have meaningful international accreditation.&nbsp; However, while IT IS NOT grande Ecole is does appear to be registered with the government as a private school.<br><br>European Graduate School is much worse. It has ASIC accreditation, which does not allow it to issue degrees.&nbsp;&nbsp;<br><br>PS Thanks to George for clarifying that ESLSCA&nbsp;is not a grande ecole.&nbsp;
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None of these are great options. 

The ESLSCA MBA is not a French state degree and does not have meaningful international  accreditation.  However, it is a real grande ecole.


I have just checked their website in France a few minutes later and I've found out that their MBA Accredited in The Supreme Council of Egyptian and French, also AACSB  and EFMD  but as you said i will make sure of this points  

European Graduate School is much worse. It has ASIC accreditation, which does not allow it to issue degrees.  


really thank you for you help much appreciated 

[quote]None of these are great options.&nbsp;<br><br>The&nbsp;ESLSCA MBA is not a French state degree and does not have meaningful international&nbsp; accreditation.&nbsp; However, it is a real grande ecole.<br><br><br>I have just checked their website in France a few minutes later and I've found out that their MBA&nbsp;Accredited in&nbsp;The Supreme Council of Egyptian and French, also&nbsp;<span style="color: rgb(28, 30, 33); font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; text-align: right;">AACSB&nbsp; and&nbsp;</span><span style="color: rgb(28, 30, 33); font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; text-align: right;">EFMD&nbsp; but as you said i will make sure of this points&nbsp;</span>&nbsp;<br><br>European Graduate School is much worse. It has ASIC accreditation, which does not allow it to issue degrees.&nbsp;&nbsp;<br> [/quote]<br><br>really thank you for you help much appreciated&nbsp;
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Duncan

 I've found out that their MBA Accredited in The Supreme Council of Egyptian and French, also AACSB  and EFMD 


You are mistaken about AACSB  and EFMD. They might be members of them, but anyone can join. However, they are not accredited by them. 

I am limited by Google Translate to understand the Supreme Council of Universities in Egypt, but I also think this is a membership organisation rather than an accreditation. For example, every public university in Egypt is a member. 

[quote]&nbsp;I've found out that their MBA&nbsp;Accredited in&nbsp;The Supreme Council of Egyptian and French, also&nbsp;<span style="color: rgb(28, 30, 33); font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; text-align: right;">AACSB&nbsp; and&nbsp;</span><span style="color: rgb(28, 30, 33); font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; text-align: right;">EFMD&nbsp;</span>[/quote]<br><br>You are mistaken about&nbsp;<span style="color: rgb(28, 30, 33); font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; text-align: right;">AACSB&nbsp; and&nbsp;</span><span style="color: rgb(28, 30, 33); font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; text-align: right;">EFMD. They might be members of them, but anyone can join. However, they are not accredited by them.&nbsp;</span><br><br>I am limited by Google Translate to understand the&nbsp;Supreme Council of Universities in Egypt, but I also think this is a membership organisation rather than an accreditation. For example, every public university in Egypt is a member.&nbsp;
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 I've found out that their MBA Accredited in The Supreme Council of Egyptian and French, also AACSB  and EFMD 


You are mistaken about AACSB  and EFMD. They might be members of them, but anyone can join. However, they are not accredited by them. 



Yes you are completely right they are just got the membership. 


I am limited by Google Translate to understand the Supreme Council of Universities in Egypt, but I also think this is a membership organisation rather than an accreditation. For example, every public university in Egypt is a member. 


According to the official website of Supreme  Council of Universities in Egypt ESLSCA is accredited. and as per the France website ESLSCA  also accredited by SCU France, But it has no international accreditation only in Egypt and France.


Do you have any recommendation about Swiss School of Management?

Thank you for the detailed explanation1f44d

[quote][quote]&nbsp;I've found out that their MBA&nbsp;Accredited in&nbsp;The Supreme Council of Egyptian and French, also&nbsp;<span style="color: rgb(28, 30, 33); font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; text-align: right;">AACSB&nbsp; and&nbsp;</span><span style="color: rgb(28, 30, 33); font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; text-align: right;">EFMD&nbsp;</span>[/quote]<br><br>You are mistaken about&nbsp;<span style="color: rgb(28, 30, 33); font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; text-align: right;">AACSB&nbsp; and&nbsp;</span><span style="color: rgb(28, 30, 33); font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; text-align: right;">EFMD. They might be members of them, but anyone can join. However, they are not accredited by them.&nbsp;</span><br><br><br><br>Yes you are completely right they are just got the membership.&nbsp;<br><br><br>I am limited by Google Translate to understand the&nbsp;Supreme Council of Universities in Egypt, but I also think this is a membership organisation rather than an accreditation. For example, every public university in Egypt is a member.&nbsp; [/quote]<br><br>According to the official website of Supreme&nbsp;&nbsp;Council of Universities in Egypt ESLSCA&nbsp;is accredited. and as per the France website ESLSCA&nbsp; also accredited by SCU France, But it has no international accreditation only in Egypt and France.<br><br><br>Do you have any recommendation about Swiss School of Management?<br><br><div>Thank you for the detailed explanation:thumbsup:</div><div><br></div>
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Duncan

I don't think SCU is any kind of French accreditation. The Supreme Council of Universities is an Egyptian organisation. In France, academic degrees are issued by the state.  French higher educations courses lead either to a state degree or to non-degree diplomas. So, while ESLSCA  is a real French institution there is a big difference between having a real masters degree, which in France is a degree from the Republic, and any other diploma. Here's a picture of a French degree: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2010_Master_Histoire.pdf?uselang=fr

If you are saying that ESLSCA has the same 'accreditation' as every public university in Egypt, then why pay extra? 

Search the board to read more about SSM. 


PS Also see https://find-mba.com/board/distance-learning/value-alternatives-to-unaccredited-mbas-58288

[Edited by Duncan on Jun 20, 2020]

I don't think SCU is any kind of French accreditation. The&nbsp;<span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 13px; text-align: justify; text-indent: 48px; white-space: pre-wrap;">Supreme Council of Universities is an Egyptian organisation. In France, academic degrees are issued by the state. </span>&nbsp;French higher educations courses lead either to a state degree or to non-degree diplomas. So, while ESLSCA&nbsp;&nbsp;is a real French institution there is a big difference between having a real masters degree, which in France is a degree from the Republic, and any other diploma. Here's a picture of a French degree:&nbsp;<a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2010_Master_Histoire.pdf?uselang=fr">https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2010_Master_Histoire.pdf?uselang=fr</a><br><br>If you are saying that ESLSCA has the same 'accreditation' as every public university in Egypt, then why pay extra?&nbsp;<br><br>Search the board to read more about SSM.&nbsp;<br><br><br>PS Also see&nbsp;https://find-mba.com/board/distance-learning/value-alternatives-to-unaccredited-mbas-58288
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George Pat...

None of the schools listed in this thread are worth attending.


As far as ESLSCA is concerned, they take advantage that there is no official list of grande ecoles so they name themselves as one. 



They are not members of the CGE. 
list of members here: https://www.cge.asso.fr/listings/
Nor listed anywhere else as ecole superieure. 


I have huge doubts that they are a "grande ecole" in any sense that matters. 
Maybe I am wrong though... 

None of the schools listed in this thread are worth attending.<br><br><br>As far as&nbsp;ESLSCA is concerned, they take advantage that there is no official list of grande ecoles so they name themselves as one.&nbsp;<br><br><br><br>They are not members of the CGE.&nbsp;<br>list of members here:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cge.asso.fr/listings/">https://www.cge.asso.fr/listings/</a><br>Nor listed anywhere else as ecole superieure.&nbsp;<br><br><br>I have huge doubts that they are a "grande ecole" in any sense that matters.&nbsp;<br>Maybe I am wrong though...&nbsp;
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Duncan

Wow. Thanks for pointing that out. I has seen that they call themselves a Etablissement d'enseignement supérieur privé, but they are members of neither of the associations for such schools:  la Fédération des établissements d'enseignement supérieur d'intérêt collectif (FESIC) and l'Union des Grandes Ecoles indépendantes (UGEI).

[Edited by Duncan on Jun 20, 2020]

Wow. Thanks for pointing that out. I has seen that they call themselves a&nbsp;<span style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: Heebo, sans-serif; background-color: rgb(1, 69, 106);">Etablissement d'enseignement supérieur privé, but they are members of neither of the associations for such schools:&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span style="color: rgb(34, 39, 43); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14.4px;">la&nbsp;</span><a href="http://www.fesic.org/" class="lien_zone_centrale" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14.4px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(255, 61, 117); text-decoration-line: underline;">Fédération des établissements d'enseignement supérieur d'intérêt collectif</a><span style="color: rgb(34, 39, 43); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14.4px;">&nbsp;(FESIC)&nbsp;</span><span style="color: rgb(34, 39, 43); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14.4px;">and l'</span><a href="http://www.ugei.fr/" class="lien_zone_centrale" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14.4px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(255, 61, 117); text-decoration-line: underline;">Union des Grandes Ecoles indépendantes</a><span style="color: rgb(34, 39, 43); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14.4px;">&nbsp;(UGEI).</span>
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It is very confusing to get to choose the right place at the right price and the right accreditation 1f605 I have to do more searches i think to get the exact one

I really thank all of you for your contribution, it really made difference 1f64f

It is very confusing to get to choose the right place at the right price and the right accreditation&nbsp;:sweat-smile:&nbsp;I have to do more searches i think to get the exact one<br><br>I really thank all of you for your contribution, it really made difference&nbsp;:pray:
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Duncan

Good luck. 

Good luck.&nbsp;
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