Which MBA program is good for my background?


a0048566

- I am an international student from Hong Kong. I am working in Singapore now.
- I have +15 years solid sales and marketing experience in Asia region (5 yrs working in HK, 10 years in China and 2 years in Singapore)
- More than 12 years working in fortune 100 company. I am a Head of Marketing for a business unit now.
- My first attempt of GMAT is not quite good, only 540.
- I am going to take IELTS end of this month. My level is about band 6.5 to 7.

The reasons why I decide to study MBA in UK are:

1. I expect that I can stay in UK after completion of my MBA
2. Gain more business strategy and financial knowledge for better job opportunities in UK.

After considering my personal academic background and experience, I have three targets of MBA program:

1. University of KENT
2. University of BATH
3. University of Birmingham.

Do you think my choices are reasonable? Or any other suggestions you can advise basing on my background information.

Thanks a lot

- I am an international student from Hong Kong. I am working in Singapore now.
- I have +15 years solid sales and marketing experience in Asia region (5 yrs working in HK, 10 years in China and 2 years in Singapore)
- More than 12 years working in fortune 100 company. I am a Head of Marketing for a business unit now.
- My first attempt of GMAT is not quite good, only 540.
- I am going to take IELTS end of this month. My level is about band 6.5 to 7.

The reasons why I decide to study MBA in UK are:

1. I expect that I can stay in UK after completion of my MBA
2. Gain more business strategy and financial knowledge for better job opportunities in UK.

After considering my personal academic background and experience, I have three targets of MBA program:

1. University of KENT
2. University of BATH
3. University of Birmingham.

Do you think my choices are reasonable? Or any other suggestions you can advise basing on my background information.

Thanks a lot
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Duncan

Birmingham stands out because it has the two year option which is aimed at people with low GMAT or IELTS scores. It's a strong school, and I think the urban setting makes it good for job hunting. 

Bath is also good, similar in standing. They will have a new building soon, but placement has not been strong there. It is certainly better than Kent. 

You might want to focus more on specific industries and roles, and see which MBA programmes have the best success in placing there. See the posts on my profile page about LinkedIn and placement. 

Birmingham stands out because it has the two year option which is aimed at people with low GMAT or IELTS scores. It's a strong school, and I think the urban setting makes it good for job hunting.&nbsp;<br><br>Bath is also good, similar in standing. They will have a new building soon, but placement has not been strong there. It is certainly better than Kent.&nbsp;<br><br>You might want to focus more on specific industries and roles, and see which MBA programmes have the best success in placing there. See the posts on my profile page about LinkedIn and placement.&nbsp;
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a0048566

Ducan,

Thanks for your comment. 

Besides of Birmingham, any other programs do you suggest?

Ducan,<br><br>Thanks for your comment.&nbsp;<br><br>Besides of Birmingham, any other programs do you suggest?
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a0048566

Ducan,

If I put Sheffield in my list, how you compare this with Birmingham?

Ducan,<br><br>If I put Sheffield in my list, how you compare this with Birmingham?
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Duncan

Sheffield has a bigger, better cohort but I am not sure about the placement from there. I assume it's worse. 

[Edited by Duncan on Jul 16, 2020]

Sheffield has a bigger, better cohort but I am not sure about the placement from there. I assume it's worse.&nbsp;
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mba hipste...

Can you retake the GMAT so you can target better schools? This tier of school isn't really known for placing international students in UK roles at good salary levels. Do some ROI calculations and see if they would even pay off for you in the long run. 

Can you retake the GMAT so you can target better schools? This tier of school isn't really known for placing international students in UK roles at good salary levels. Do some ROI calculations and see if they would even pay off for you in the long run.&nbsp;
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a0048566

I highly consider the employability rate. Surprisingly, after top 5 business schools, the rate of the other MBA programs like Manchester or Edinburgh is below 50%. Like the programs in Birmingham Kent Bath, the rate is below 25%. I am quite confused now with this number if my goal is to settle down in UK after completion of the course. ????

I highly consider the employability rate. Surprisingly, after top 5 business schools, the rate of the other MBA programs like Manchester or Edinburgh is below 50%. Like the programs in Birmingham Kent Bath, the rate is below 25%. I am quite confused now with this number if my goal is to settle down in UK after completion of the course. ????<br>
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Duncan

Better programs have higher placement. See the FT employment data. Not sure where you get your numbers. 

[Edited by Duncan on Jul 17, 2020]

Better programs have higher placement. See the FT employment data. Not sure where you get your numbers.&nbsp;
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Duncan

See the post linked in my profile page on the best schools for placement. Manchester, for example, is for people changing directions not looking for easy placement 

See the post linked in my profile page on the best schools for placement. Manchester, for example, is for people changing directions not looking for easy placement&nbsp;
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a0048566

Duncan, thanks for your information. 

After reading more passages in your profile, should i try Edinburgh MBA as well?

Mature cohort -- similar to my age (40)
Relatively high international mobility -- My goal is to work in UK
Stay in the same industry (I had worked in 3M for 13 yrs)-- Similar Chemical MNC in UK
Fair salary increment -- my current annual salary level is about USD$8XXXX

Or you think Birmingham MBA is better according to my background? 

Duncan, thanks for your information.&nbsp;<br><br>After reading more passages in your profile, should i try Edinburgh MBA as well?<br><br>Mature cohort -- similar to my age (40)<br>Relatively high international mobility -- My goal is to work in UK<br>Stay in the same industry (I had worked in 3M for 13 yrs)-- Similar Chemical MNC in UK<br>Fair salary increment -- my current annual salary level is about USD$8XXXX<br><br>Or you think Birmingham MBA is better according to my background?&nbsp;<br>
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Duncan

I think your goals are more important than the age of the cohort. See: Best MBAs for international students' placement http://www.find-mba.com/board/41143 and How to use LinkedIn to find the best school www.find-mba.com/board/33571
If you only want to work in the UK, then you might want to look at major chemicals employers and see where they hire from: e.g Johnson Matthey;  Croda;  Air Products; BOC.
In a nutshell, it's not notably from Scottish schools. 

It is more often from:  Alliance Manchester Business School; University of Leeds; London Business School; University of Birmingham;  INSEAD;  Imperial College London; and The Manchester Metropolitan University.
Obviously, these are schools of varying quality. Better roles will got to people with better schools. 

[Edited by Duncan on Jul 23, 2020]

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a0048566

Duncan, 

Thanks for your prompt reply. This is very useful. 

Duncan,&nbsp;<br><br>Thanks for your prompt reply. This is very useful.&nbsp;
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a0048566

I got an offer from Kent but Birmingham is still processing my application. Should I wait for Birmingham? 

I got an offer from Kent but Birmingham is still processing my application. Should I wait for Birmingham?&nbsp;
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a0048566

As I see Kent MBA was accredited by AMBA. Do you think it is also a recommended program?

As I see Kent MBA was accredited by AMBA. Do you think it is also a recommended program?
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Duncan

Do the analysis using the LinkedIn approach I used above. Kent does not fit your goals. 

[Edited by Duncan on Aug 06, 2020]

Do the analysis using the LinkedIn approach I used above. Kent does not fit your goals.&nbsp;
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a0048566

Duncan, thanks for your comments. After my serious consideration, I will reject the offer of Kent. In the last few days, I got an offer from Leeds and Birmingham. I am waiting for the interview invitation from Manchester. 

How do you prioritise these choices according to my goals? My preference is Man > Leeds > Burmingham 

[Edited by a0048566 on Aug 07, 2020]

Duncan, thanks for your comments. After my serious consideration, I will reject the offer of Kent. In the last few days, I got an offer from Leeds and Birmingham. I am waiting for the interview invitation from Manchester.&nbsp;<br><br>How do you prioritise these choices according to my goals? My preference is Man &gt; Leeds &gt; Burmingham&nbsp;
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Duncan

Manchester is much better but do use the LinkedIn method and identify the best schools. 

Manchester is much better but do use the LinkedIn method and identify the best schools.&nbsp;
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Ahmedragab

Sheffield has a bigger, better cohort but I am not sure about the placement from there. I assume it's worse. 

[quote]Sheffield has a bigger, better cohort but I am not sure about the placement from there. I assume it's worse.&nbsp; [/quote]
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