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Duncan

The MiM market is not binary. The choice is not only between Warwick or an unranked school. A small improvement in the quality of the school means a big lift in the outcomes. The number 30 school is better than the 60th, and that is better than the 90th.

I am sorry that you don't value your future career success highly enough to want to get into the best school you can.

The MiM market is not binary. The choice is not only between Warwick or an unranked school. A small improvement in the quality of the school means a big lift in the outcomes. The number 30 school is better than the 60th, and that is better than the 90th.

I am sorry that you don't value your future career success highly enough to want to get into the best school you can.
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Abhinav M

The MiM market is not binary. The choice is not only between Warwick or an unranked school. A small improvement in the quality of the school means a big lift in the outcomes. The number 30 school is better than the 60th, and that is better than the 90th.

I am sorry that you don't value your future career success highly enough to want to get into the best school you can.


It's not that I don't value my career it's just that my chances are slim to none in Warwick and other top 10 universities. I am going to continue and expand my Family Business, and these universities I mentioned comes in the top 25 in the UK. I don't think its much of a bad reputed or not employees favourite universities, so as I said a degree from these universities and a small work experience hope does well for me in the future for my family business.

please suggest..

[quote]The MiM market is not binary. The choice is not only between Warwick or an unranked school. A small improvement in the quality of the school means a big lift in the outcomes. The number 30 school is better than the 60th, and that is better than the 90th.

I am sorry that you don't value your future career success highly enough to want to get into the best school you can. [/quote]

It's not that I don't value my career it's just that my chances are slim to none in Warwick and other top 10 universities. I am going to continue and expand my Family Business, and these universities I mentioned comes in the top 25 in the UK. I don't think its much of a bad reputed or not employees favourite universities, so as I said a degree from these universities and a small work experience hope does well for me in the future for my family business.

please suggest..
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Duncan

These are obviously not in the top 25 MiM programmes in the UK. They are certainly not among the top MiMs for employers. If they were, they would be in the FT MiM ranking.

What information are you using? Try the FT MiM ranking.

Have you taken the GMAT? You write English accurately and have a degree in business. I don't see why you cannot hope to get a good GMAT score.

These are obviously not in the top 25 MiM programmes in the UK. They are certainly not among the top MiMs for employers. If they were, they would be in the FT MiM ranking.

What information are you using? Try the FT MiM ranking.

Have you taken the GMAT? You write English accurately and have a degree in business. I don't see why you cannot hope to get a good GMAT score.

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Duncan

The FT ranks 23 MiM programmes in the UK, of which two are at the London locations of good French schools. A third, EDHEC, also teaches in London. Those are the top UK MiMs. Okay... Perhaps you cannot get into the top ten. But why not into the second dozen?

The FT ranks 23 MiM programmes in the UK, of which two are at the London locations of good French schools. A third, EDHEC, also teaches in London. Those are the top UK MiMs. Okay... Perhaps you cannot get into the top ten. But why not into the second dozen?
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Abhinav M

The FT ranks 23 MiM programmes in the UK, of which two are at the London locations of good French schools. A third, EDHEC, also teaches in London. Those are the top UK MiMs. Okay... Perhaps you cannot get into the top ten. But why not into the second dozen?


I respect your point, but sir from FT MIM in the world ranking from the UK it has (22 schools) and
BRUNEL University comes at 19 positions and others don't have spring intakes that are only 3 schools cause others are really hard to get in as mentioned before (Warwick, Imperial, Lancaster etc.)
My other university sources are from The Times Higher Ranking UK and QS ranking UK

Name ........(Times)........ [QS]

University of Aberdeen......... (22) .......[23]
Univ of Dundee ........(30) .......[35]
Aston Uni .........(43) ......[45]
Brunel ........(48) .........[42]
Anglia Ruskin ..........(40) ......[-NA-]

[Edited by Abhinav M on Oct 13, 2018]

[quote]The FT ranks 23 MiM programmes in the UK, of which two are at the London locations of good French schools. A third, EDHEC, also teaches in London. Those are the top UK MiMs. Okay... Perhaps you cannot get into the top ten. But why not into the second dozen? [/quote]

I respect your point, but sir from FT MIM in the world ranking from the UK it has (22 schools) and
BRUNEL University comes at 19 positions and others don't have spring intakes that are only 3 schools cause others are really hard to get in as mentioned before (Warwick, Imperial, Lancaster etc.)
My other university sources are from The Times Higher Ranking UK and QS ranking UK

Name ........(Times)........ [QS]

University of Aberdeen......... (22) .......[23]
Univ of Dundee ........(30) .......[35]
Aston Uni .........(43) ......[45]
Brunel ........(48) .........[42]
Anglia Ruskin ..........(40) ......[-NA-]
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Duncan

Yes there are 22 UK schools but 24 schools in the UK. If Brunel if your only option from these schools then take that. The THE ranking is mostly an undergraduate ranking, as you can see from the absence of Cambridge, London and Oxford. Don't use it for the MiM.

I don't know which QS ranking you are using, but perhaps not the relevant one, for the MiM: https://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/business-masters-rankings/management/2018 the schools you mentioned don't seem to have those rankings. Even so, the FT ranking or more reliable.

Is Brunel really the only option in the top 25 that will admit you? It's a bit of a coincidence that it's the only one with a January start. Are you sure that self-limiting beliefs, or a fear of the GMAT, it not keeping you from better schools? Which schools have turned you down?

[Edited by Duncan on Oct 13, 2018]

Yes there are 22 UK schools but 24 schools in the UK. If Brunel if your only option from these schools then take that. The THE ranking is mostly an undergraduate ranking, as you can see from the absence of Cambridge, London and Oxford. Don't use it for the MiM.

I don't know which QS ranking you are using, but perhaps not the relevant one, for the MiM: https://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/business-masters-rankings/management/2018 the schools you mentioned don't seem to have those rankings. Even so, the FT ranking or more reliable.

Is Brunel really the only option in the top 25 that will admit you? It's a bit of a coincidence that it's the only one with a January start. Are you sure that self-limiting beliefs, or a fear of the GMAT, it not keeping you from better schools? Which schools have turned you down?
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George Pat...


Name ........(Times)........ [QS]

University of Aberdeen......... (22) .......[23]
Univ of Dundee ........(30) .......[35]
Aston Uni .........(43) ......[45]
Brunel ........(48) .........[42]
Anglia Ruskin ..........(40) ......[-NA-]


You seem determined to not follow the good advises in this thread.
So... from these, I'd say Aston is better. Their business school is triple accredited

[quote]
Name ........(Times)........ [QS]

University of Aberdeen......... (22) .......[23]
Univ of Dundee ........(30) .......[35]
Aston Uni .........(43) ......[45]
Brunel ........(48) .........[42]
Anglia Ruskin ..........(40) ......[-NA-][/quote]

You seem determined to not follow the good advises in this thread.
So... from these, I'd say Aston is better. Their business school is triple accredited

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Duncan

Looking at the average salary on the FT ranking, Liverpool and Lancaster are only slightly higher so I would certainly consider those as options for people admitted to Brunel.

George is certainly right that Aston is generally a better school, perhaps with the exception of Aviation and Healthcare. However this person wants to work in the UK. So outcomes matter more, and that is what drives the FT ranking.

Looking at the average salary on the FT ranking, Liverpool and Lancaster are only slightly higher so I would certainly consider those as options for people admitted to Brunel.

George is certainly right that Aston is generally a better school, perhaps with the exception of Aviation and Healthcare. However this person wants to work in the UK. So outcomes matter more, and that is what drives the FT ranking.
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Duncan

Given that Brunel is very low in the FT ranking, cannot publish a number for students in employment, and has a shockingly low score for international mobility, it seems very wise to aim for a different school in the FT ranking if the goal is UK employment before returning home.

Given that Brunel is very low in the FT ranking, cannot publish a number for students in employment, and has a shockingly low score for international mobility, it seems very wise to aim for a different school in the FT ranking if the goal is UK employment before returning home.
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Abhinav M


Name ........(Times)........ [QS]

University of Aberdeen......... (22) .......[23]
Univ of Dundee ........(30) .......[35]
Aston Uni .........(43) ......[45]
Brunel ........(48) .........[42]
Anglia Ruskin ..........(40) ......[-NA-]


You seem determined to not follow the good advises in this thread.
So... from these, I'd say Aston is better. Their business school is triple accredited



Mr.Duncan and Mr.George thank you, I really value your advice and of the forum its because of Mr.duncan i chose Masters rather than taking freshers MBA which is not of much value but as time is limited for me due to family issues in our business I need to take over as soon as I complete my masters. That's the reason I am choosing the spring intake. I know my choices or options are limited during spring, but from spring I think these are the best available chances for me.

Please do guide me for the best in these universities and give your valuable suggestions

Regards
Abhinav

[quote][quote]
Name ........(Times)........ [QS]

University of Aberdeen......... (22) .......[23]
Univ of Dundee ........(30) .......[35]
Aston Uni .........(43) ......[45]
Brunel ........(48) .........[42]
Anglia Ruskin ..........(40) ......[-NA-][/quote]

You seem determined to not follow the good advises in this thread.
So... from these, I'd say Aston is better. Their business school is triple accredited

[/quote]

Mr.Duncan and Mr.George thank you, I really value your advice and of the forum its because of Mr.duncan i chose Masters rather than taking freshers MBA which is not of much value but as time is limited for me due to family issues in our business I need to take over as soon as I complete my masters. That's the reason I am choosing the spring intake. I know my choices or options are limited during spring, but from spring I think these are the best available chances for me.

Please do guide me for the best in these universities and give your valuable suggestions

Regards
Abhinav
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George Pat...

There seems to be some misunderstanding

On the first page you say you want some years work in UK so people give advice based on that.
Now you say you want to go back home as soon as possible to take over the family business, which means you only need good knowledge, and based on that, i'd say Aston from those choices you listed. The triple accredited school will have better quality of content

Also for work in the family business, I would definitely do the illinois imba specializations (in addition to the masters) as they are a very good source of knowledge and can be done for free on coursera (free top-tier knowledge is always a good thing, and can be really really helpful to run a business!)

There seems to be some misunderstanding

On the first page you say you want some years work in UK so people give advice based on that.
Now you say you want to go back home as soon as possible to take over the family business, which means you only need good knowledge, and based on that, i'd say Aston from those choices you listed. The triple accredited school will have better quality of content

Also for work in the family business, I would definitely do the illinois imba specializations (in addition to the masters) as they are a very good source of knowledge and can be done for free on coursera (free top-tier knowledge is always a good thing, and can be really really helpful to run a business!)
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Abhinav M

Hey,
Its actually, I would like to come back to my home country to continue my family business but just like some schools (Brunel, Dundee, Anglia Ruskin), they do give internship for few months which gives me an insight of workplace scenarios. So yea that is there i would like to do it as well.
So you think Aston is the best ?? or Brunel

[Edited by Abhinav M on Oct 13, 2018]

Hey,
Its actually, I would like to come back to my home country to continue my family business but just like some schools (Brunel, Dundee, Anglia Ruskin), they do give internship for few months which gives me an insight of workplace scenarios. So yea that is there i would like to do it as well.
So you think Aston is the best ?? or Brunel
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Duncan

All schools allow internships, but no school will give you one. You find your own internship. The poorer schools will not support you very well.

All schools allow internships, but no school will give you one. You find your own internship. The poorer schools will not support you very well.
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Abhinav M

So Mr.duncan which should I go for from the given, in your opinion (as told there's no other way for me).
Aston
Brunel
Aberdeen
Dundee
Anglia Ruskin
Hertfordshire

I am in desperate need of help...

So Mr.duncan which should I go for from the given, in your opinion (as told there's no other way for me).
Aston
Brunel
Aberdeen
Dundee
Anglia Ruskin
Hertfordshire

I am in desperate need of help...
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Duncan

George's recommendation of Aston sounds good. It's the best of these business schools bity for education and for employability. It's the only one in the top 100 of the QS MiM ranking. But personally I would take the time and look for a better programme. Maybe there is a January start at a higher quality school in another country?

George's recommendation of Aston sounds good. It's the best of these business schools bity for education and for employability. It's the only one in the top 100 of the QS MiM ranking. But personally I would take the time and look for a better programme. Maybe there is a January start at a higher quality school in another country?
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