www.find-mba.com/article/564/are-online-mba-progra?
The link above is to be found on the him page of this site. I appreciated the gist of the article.
I rank the following deliver format characteristics as important to my learning stye:
1. Video Lectures
2. Collateral study materials to guide the course
3. Frequent feedback to ensure I am on track
4. A suggested study schedule assuming little to zero pre-existing knowledge of the particular module.
As such could you comment/rank some of the DL MBAs performance in this regard? I am interested in the MBS ranking here as I already have an offer letter from them.
Thanks
Manchester Global MBA Format
Posted Mar 05, 2012 00:13
The link above is to be found on the him page of this site. I appreciated the gist of the article.
I rank the following deliver format characteristics as important to my learning stye:
1. Video Lectures
2. Collateral study materials to guide the course
3. Frequent feedback to ensure I am on track
4. A suggested study schedule assuming little to zero pre-existing knowledge of the particular module.
As such could you comment/rank some of the DL MBAs performance in this regard? I am interested in the MBS ranking here as I already have an offer letter from them.
Thanks
Posted Mar 06, 2012 13:36
Dear all, could anyone please reply to this post as I am also looking for similar information.
Hi Random, Could you please also share your experience how you got admission in Global MBA. Did you take MAT or interviewed ? I am interested in MBS Global MBA in engineering.
Hi Random, Could you please also share your experience how you got admission in Global MBA. Did you take MAT or interviewed ? I am interested in MBS Global MBA in engineering.
Posted Mar 07, 2012 19:06
Manchester has a good program, and delivers most of what you'd be looking for in terms of priorities. The course delivery combines videos with live lectures through a Blackboard-based system. And of course, there are discussion forums and additional support.
You can also check out Warwick and Durham - both of these schools have comparably robust learning platforms that enable course delivery and support/feedback.
One thing I'd encourage you to explore are on-campus residency sessions. These help you really engage the material and can lead to more effective networking and soft-skill development than you can get in completely online programs. These are required in some programs and optional in others.
www.find-mba.com/article/564/are-online-mba-progra?
The link above is to be found on the him page of this site. I appreciated the gist of the article.
I rank the following deliver format characteristics as important to my learning stye:
1. Video Lectures
2. Collateral study materials to guide the course
3. Frequent feedback to ensure I am on track
4. A suggested study schedule assuming little to zero pre-existing knowledge of the particular module.
As such could you comment/rank some of the DL MBAs performance in this regard? I am interested in the MBS ranking here as I already have an offer letter from them.
Thanks
You can also check out Warwick and Durham - both of these schools have comparably robust learning platforms that enable course delivery and support/feedback.
One thing I'd encourage you to explore are on-campus residency sessions. These help you really engage the material and can lead to more effective networking and soft-skill development than you can get in completely online programs. These are required in some programs and optional in others.
<blockquote>www.find-mba.com/article/564/are-online-mba-progra?
The link above is to be found on the him page of this site. I appreciated the gist of the article.
I rank the following deliver format characteristics as important to my learning stye:
1. Video Lectures
2. Collateral study materials to guide the course
3. Frequent feedback to ensure I am on track
4. A suggested study schedule assuming little to zero pre-existing knowledge of the particular module.
As such could you comment/rank some of the DL MBAs performance in this regard? I am interested in the MBS ranking here as I already have an offer letter from them.
Thanks</blockquote>
Posted Mar 08, 2012 02:08
Manchester has a good program, and delivers most of what you'd be looking for in terms of priorities. The course delivery combines videos with live lectures through a Blackboard-based system. And of course, there are discussion forums and additional support.
You can also check out Warwick and Durham - both of these schools have comparably robust learning platforms that enable course delivery and support/feedback.
One thing I'd encourage you to explore are on-campus residency sessions. These help you really engage the material and can lead to more effective networking and soft-skill development than you can get in completely online programs. These are required in some programs and optional in others.www.find-mba.com/article/564/are-online-mba-progra?
The link above is to be found on the him page of this site. I appreciated the gist of the article.
I rank the following deliver format characteristics as important to my learning stye:
1. Video Lectures
2. Collateral study materials to guide the course
3. Frequent feedback to ensure I am on track
4. A suggested study schedule assuming little to zero pre-existing knowledge of the particular module.
As such could you comment/rank some of the DL MBAs performance in this regard? I am interested in the MBS ranking here as I already have an offer letter from them.
Thanks
Thanks Ezra.
I know Warwick and MBS rank similarly in terms on the FT rankings. I am not concerned about the tuition costs - MBS costs more but that is not a concern for me.
However, it is more important to me to assess the quality of the teaching in terms of format, level of notes and overall support for students if I am doing distance learning.
Which offers a better platform for these criteria? I have the offer letter from MBS and would like to know if it worth all the effort to get accepted to WBS?
Thanks
You can also check out Warwick and Durham - both of these schools have comparably robust learning platforms that enable course delivery and support/feedback.
One thing I'd encourage you to explore are on-campus residency sessions. These help you really engage the material and can lead to more effective networking and soft-skill development than you can get in completely online programs. These are required in some programs and optional in others.
<blockquote>www.find-mba.com/article/564/are-online-mba-progra?
The link above is to be found on the him page of this site. I appreciated the gist of the article.
I rank the following deliver format characteristics as important to my learning stye:
1. Video Lectures
2. Collateral study materials to guide the course
3. Frequent feedback to ensure I am on track
4. A suggested study schedule assuming little to zero pre-existing knowledge of the particular module.
As such could you comment/rank some of the DL MBAs performance in this regard? I am interested in the MBS ranking here as I already have an offer letter from them.
Thanks</blockquote></blockquote>
Thanks Ezra.
I know Warwick and MBS rank similarly in terms on the FT rankings. I am not concerned about the tuition costs - MBS costs more but that is not a concern for me.
However, it is more important to me to assess the quality of the teaching in terms of format, level of notes and overall support for students if I am doing distance learning.
Which offers a better platform for these criteria? I have the offer letter from MBS and would like to know if it worth all the effort to get accepted to WBS?
Thanks
Posted Mar 08, 2012 14:33
I think you'd need to speak to students to see what sort of support you prefer. A good friend of mine is on the MBS Global MBA, and I am really impressed at the improvements in the coaching, learning support and careers support from Manchester. Comparing it with the predecessor programme, the Manchester EMBA, it's on a qualitatively higher level.
Posted Mar 08, 2012 14:38
Awesome Duncan - thank you. I have been in touch with one of the profs for the Managerial Economics module and he seemed pretty supportive too. I am feeling a little more at ease because one of the main criticisms I have read about has been the admin and support for students was an issue.
I am now faced with the question of whether it is worth going through the trouble of applying to Warwick too....!!! I have a bird in hand...is the other bird worth it?
I am now faced with the question of whether it is worth going through the trouble of applying to Warwick too....!!! I have a bird in hand...is the other bird worth it?
Posted Mar 08, 2012 18:57
What I know WBS offers flexibility to DL candidates to take some courses / electives in EMBA style i.e. 1 week in campus lectures at Warwick or at overseas centres. There is extra fee by course. I think it's good option for building network, improve soft skills etc if you can be away from work to spend residential time there.
Posted Mar 08, 2012 20:17
I am now faced with the question of whether it is worth going through the trouble of applying to Warwick too....!!! I have a bird in hand...is the other bird worth it?
Honestly, I think you should contact Warwick as well to get a good reading on the learning experience, career services support, etc. It never hurts to get more information about competing products, especially since it's your career we're talking about here. And don't forget about the other UK DL programs, I know Durham offers a decent program as well.
Honestly, I think you should contact Warwick as well to get a good reading on the learning experience, career services support, etc. It never hurts to get more information about competing products, especially since it's your career we're talking about here. And don't forget about the other UK DL programs, I know Durham offers a decent program as well.
Posted Mar 09, 2012 01:23
Honestly, I think you should contact Warwick as well to get a good reading on the learning experience, career services support, etc. It never hurts to get more information about competing products, especially since it's your career we're talking about here. And don't forget about the other UK DL programs, I know Durham offers a decent program as well.
I have made contact with WBS and sent them my info to get a preliminary screening. Hopefully, know more tomorrow.
I have made contact with WBS and sent them my info to get a preliminary screening. Hopefully, know more tomorrow.
Posted Mar 09, 2012 09:01
Late night here....just finished writing my essays for Warwick.
The one thing Manchester did that I really liked was they approved my application BEFORE I had my referee's complete the referee forms. Of course the referrals were still needed before a final offer was extended to me but it meant I did not have to burn my political capital unnecessarily.
Anyway next week hopefully I will make my final decision and then the real work can begin!
The one thing Manchester did that I really liked was they approved my application BEFORE I had my referee's complete the referee forms. Of course the referrals were still needed before a final offer was extended to me but it meant I did not have to burn my political capital unnecessarily.
Anyway next week hopefully I will make my final decision and then the real work can begin!
Posted Mar 09, 2012 09:36
I would be really interested to your decision as I am in the same dilemma. Warwick or Manchester? In your opinion, what are the pros and cons of each program?
Posted Mar 09, 2012 11:03
I would be really interested to your decision as I am in the same dilemma. Warwick or Manchester? In your opinion, what are the pros and cons of each program?
I'm using the following criteria. Leader is denoted as W or M:
1. Cost: W (linked to #2 also)
2. Requirement to travel: W
3. Student Support (W - I think)
4. Program content (undecided - I am focused on strategy and project management)
5. Time to complete: W
6. Elective choices: W (more to choose from)
7. Most responsive to me so far: M
8. Better international recognition: M
9. Exams (undecided. W has some assessment based grades but M exams are open book).
10. Specialization options: M (maybe since they don't have many choices).
11. TMA's - Tutor marked assessments for progress checking only: W (not sure if M offers this)
12. Availability of info on the program: W....this is one of my biggest criticisms of M so far and why I am suspicious of the support level I will receive if I accept their offer. Their (M's) admissions guy (Rob is his name) has been superb so far though. I am talking about availability of info regarding the programs on the web.
13. Ease of admission: M
14. Easier to get to: M
15. Level of professional development in the program: M (the modules for this appear to be strong to me).
I'm using the following criteria. Leader is denoted as W or M:
1. Cost: W (linked to #2 also)
2. Requirement to travel: W
3. Student Support (W - I think)
4. Program content (undecided - I am focused on strategy and project management)
5. Time to complete: W
6. Elective choices: W (more to choose from)
7. Most responsive to me so far: M
8. Better international recognition: M
9. Exams (undecided. W has some assessment based grades but M exams are open book).
10. Specialization options: M (maybe since they don't have many choices).
11. TMA's - Tutor marked assessments for progress checking only: W (not sure if M offers this)
12. Availability of info on the program: W....this is one of my biggest criticisms of M so far and why I am suspicious of the support level I will receive if I accept their offer. Their (M's) admissions guy (Rob is his name) has been superb so far though. I am talking about availability of info regarding the programs on the web.
13. Ease of admission: M
14. Easier to get to: M
15. Level of professional development in the program: M (the modules for this appear to be strong to me).
Posted Mar 09, 2012 13:36
I would like to add another question. If you do DL MBA from Warwick, Transcript will state that course was studied online, distance learning or module etc. I am wondering whether MBS do the same.
Posted Mar 09, 2012 14:23
I would like to add another question. If you do DL MBA from Warwick, Transcript will state that course was studied online, distance learning or module etc. I am wondering whether MBS do the same.
Are you sure? I knew that both don't mention it!
By the way this looks a very stuffy question... looking at your cv is very easy to understand if you got your mba online or FT
Are you sure? I knew that both don't mention it!
By the way this looks a very stuffy question... looking at your cv is very easy to understand if you got your mba online or FT
Posted Mar 09, 2012 14:41
Are you sure? I knew that both don't mention it!
By the way this looks a very stuffy question... looking at your cv is very easy to understand if you got your mba online or FT
I know it is obvious and not trying to hide fact in CV but that was not the point. WBS says that they do not make distinction in their MBA part time/ distance learning/ executive but still mention on transcript. So Just wanted to find out whether other business school do the same.
Are you sure? I knew that both don't mention it!
By the way this looks a very stuffy question... looking at your cv is very easy to understand if you got your mba online or FT</blockquote>
I know it is obvious and not trying to hide fact in CV but that was not the point. WBS says that they do not make distinction in their MBA part time/ distance learning/ executive but still mention on transcript. So Just wanted to find out whether other business school do the same.
Posted Mar 09, 2012 16:59
I would like to add another question. If you do DL MBA from Warwick, Transcript will state that course was studied online, distance learning or module etc. I am wondering whether MBS do the same.
Are you sure? I knew that both don't mention it!
By the way this looks a very stuffy question... looking at your cv is very easy to understand if you got your mba online or FT
i have no issue with transparency. The degree itself is the Warwick MBA. The transcript shows the delivery format but that doesn't matter at all for me.
Are you sure? I knew that both don't mention it!
By the way this looks a very stuffy question... looking at your cv is very easy to understand if you got your mba online or FT</blockquote>
i have no issue with transparency. The degree itself is the Warwick MBA. The transcript shows the delivery format but that doesn't matter at all for me.
Posted Mar 09, 2012 17:07
It is much more frustrating trying to get information out of Manchester about the course format and student support than it is from Warwick.
The admissions office tells me to go and read the website...I can practically recite the website! However, even the University of Liverpool has online information sessions conducted live or in a recorded format that clearly show the nature of the delivery, progress and assessment for a student. I just watched the same for WBS and I am thoroughly impressed by the offering. Either Manchester admissions is doing the school and students a disservice or it is a red flag and I should look elsewhere.
A clear example of what I am looking for are the weekly assignments and grades that Liverpool offers or the TMA's (Tutor Marked Assessments) that Warwick offers. I cannot even get Manchester to understand what I am asking about in this regard. I would think that since they are the most expensive of the 3 schools I have just mentioned they would be better equipped to handle with these types of questions.
I have completed all my essays and my application for Warwick now. If I am accepted I will choose Warwick. Time will tell.
The admissions office tells me to go and read the website...I can practically recite the website! However, even the University of Liverpool has online information sessions conducted live or in a recorded format that clearly show the nature of the delivery, progress and assessment for a student. I just watched the same for WBS and I am thoroughly impressed by the offering. Either Manchester admissions is doing the school and students a disservice or it is a red flag and I should look elsewhere.
A clear example of what I am looking for are the weekly assignments and grades that Liverpool offers or the TMA's (Tutor Marked Assessments) that Warwick offers. I cannot even get Manchester to understand what I am asking about in this regard. I would think that since they are the most expensive of the 3 schools I have just mentioned they would be better equipped to handle with these types of questions.
I have completed all my essays and my application for Warwick now. If I am accepted I will choose Warwick. Time will tell.
Posted Mar 09, 2012 22:51
Random, I think they will have found that people with questions as detailed as these tend to be very much less likely to turn into candidates. These are people with demanding full-time jobs and they have to focus their time. If you really need to see an example of the assessments before you are willing to apply then you are very much unlike the normal student.
Posted Mar 09, 2012 23:06
Random, I think they will have found that people with questions as detailed as these tend to be very much less likely to turn into candidates. These are people with demanding full-time jobs and they have to focus their time. If you really need to see an example of the assessments before you are willing to apply then you are very much unlike the normal student.
Duncan, I do not want to see their assessments. You are not understanding what I am speaking about.
Here take a look at what Warwick posts as a description of the learning environment: http://www.wbs.ac.uk/students/mba/dl/study.cfm
As an example under the "Subject Tutors" sub heading it says:
You will be supported in each module by a team of subject tutors. They will facilitate wbsLive sessions, moderate online discussions and offer explanations and clarification, and make sure you are up to date with subject-relevant topical information. You are strongly encouraged to submit optional formative Tutor Marked Assignments; your subject tutor will mark these and give you feedback on your performance, which will help you reflect on and monitor your own progress.
This describes the student support that is imperative in a DL program. Nowhere do you find anything on the MBS website that describes the learning environment.
I hear your criticism about my questions, but when you buy a car you typically read about the car and most normal people even test drive the car before they take out their checkbooks. The MBA offering costs a lot more than many cars in terms of dollars and certainly so in terms of time and commitment.
One of the key take aways for graduating MBA's is that they learned to ask the right questions and conduct research. yet you are inferring there is something irregular about me because I am doing so up front....
I do not want to get into an argument with you, as I respect your knowledge. And it is knowledge that I seek before I dive into a 3 year investment of my time, energy and money. Isn't this that the whole purpose of this forum?
Duncan, I do not want to see their assessments. You are not understanding what I am speaking about.
Here take a look at what Warwick posts as a description of the learning environment: http://www.wbs.ac.uk/students/mba/dl/study.cfm
As an example under the "Subject Tutors" sub heading it says: <blockquote>You will be supported in each module by a team of subject tutors. They will facilitate wbsLive sessions, moderate online discussions and offer explanations and clarification, and make sure you are up to date with subject-relevant topical information. You are strongly encouraged to submit optional formative Tutor Marked Assignments; your subject tutor will mark these and give you feedback on your performance, which will help you reflect on and monitor your own progress.</blockquote>
This describes the student support that is imperative in a DL program. Nowhere do you find anything on the MBS website that describes the learning environment.
I hear your criticism about my questions, but when you buy a car you typically read about the car and most normal people even test drive the car before they take out their checkbooks. The MBA offering costs a lot more than many cars in terms of dollars and certainly so in terms of time and commitment.
One of the key take aways for graduating MBA's is that they learned to ask the right questions and conduct research. yet you are inferring there is something irregular about me because I am doing so up front....
I do not want to get into an argument with you, as I respect your knowledge. And it is knowledge that I seek before I dive into a 3 year investment of my time, energy and money. Isn't this that the whole purpose of this forum?
Posted Mar 10, 2012 08:53
Hi Random. I'm not trying to criticise you or suggest that there's anything irregular about what you are doing. What I am trying to do is reset your expectations, both of what the right questions are and of what a realistic level of service is to expect from a highly-ranked business school.
Take for example the question of student support by tutors. You say that is imperative. Actually, that is not the case. During my MBA I studied at London Business School and the Tuck School at Dartmouth College. These are two highly-standing business schools, without regular, intensive tutorial support of any kind. Students work in study groups to support each other. That is a deliberate choice of pedagogy, and it reflects on the difference between MBAs which are management development programmes and thus centre on collaboration (which the case approach aims to produce, and which group learning also does) and those which are individual academic programmes, with little co-operation.
Take for example the question of student support by tutors. You say that is imperative. Actually, that is not the case. During my MBA I studied at London Business School and the Tuck School at Dartmouth College. These are two highly-standing business schools, without regular, intensive tutorial support of any kind. Students work in study groups to support each other. That is a deliberate choice of pedagogy, and it reflects on the difference between MBAs which are management development programmes and thus centre on collaboration (which the case approach aims to produce, and which group learning also does) and those which are individual academic programmes, with little co-operation.
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