2011 CArdiff MBA OR coventry london campus


i have around 2.5 yrs exp in Marketing field..i have got offer letters from both Coventry and Cardiff..ie..Marketing specialization in Coventry and General MBA in Cardiff..they are ranked 65th and 36th respectively and cardiff is ranked 4th in the 2008 Research Assessment Exercise . i dont understand the accredited MBA part.. how is this bad from the accredited colleges..also i have heard that majority of the population are Indians in cardiff is it true??. Also are the subjects taught there more theoretical mugging like that of India or more in practical knowledge which i hope to gain.

i have around 2.5 yrs exp in Marketing field..i have got offer letters from both Coventry and Cardiff..ie..Marketing specialization in Coventry and General MBA in Cardiff..they are ranked 65th and 36th respectively and cardiff is ranked 4th in the 2008 Research Assessment Exercise . i dont understand the accredited MBA part.. how is this bad from the accredited colleges..also i have heard that majority of the population are Indians in cardiff is it true??. Also are the subjects taught there more theoretical mugging like that of India or more in practical knowledge which i hope to gain.
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Duncan

Those very average rankings are their standing in UK undergraduate programmes. For the MBA, they are not good schools. With 2,5 years you could apply for an accredited MBA which, unlike Freshers MBAs like Coventry, will get you a premium salary over what an undergraduate could earn.

Take a internationally-accredited MBA.

Yes, Cardiff's MBA is overwhelmingly Indian.

Those very average rankings are their standing in UK undergraduate programmes. For the MBA, they are not good schools. With 2,5 years you could apply for an accredited MBA which, unlike Freshers MBAs like Coventry, will get you a premium salary over what an undergraduate could earn.

Take a internationally-accredited MBA.

Yes, Cardiff's MBA is overwhelmingly Indian.
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Mamit

both recruit students with no work exp. so you will mainly find freshers studying in these programs

both recruit students with no work exp. so you will mainly find freshers studying in these programs
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gauravw

Dear Duncan

This is gaurav from India.I have completed my graduation in engineering (BE E&TC).I dont have any work experience and I am looking forward to apply for MBA program in UK.

As I am not not having any work experience,I cannot apply to all the universities.I came to know that there are universities which offer MBA programs for graduates without work experience.

So can you please let me know about the universities mentioned below,as what is the value of their degrees in the market.
Universities are:
London south bank - MBA
Coventry university ? london campus ? mba global business
University of east london ? mba international business
University of glamorgan ? mba
University of wales at new port ? mba
Leeds metropolitan university ? mba

Also I would return back to India after working there for a year.So will the MBA from the above universities be the valued in India?

Dear Duncan

This is gaurav from India.I have completed my graduation in engineering (BE E&TC).I dont have any work experience and I am looking forward to apply for MBA program in UK.

As I am not not having any work experience,I cannot apply to all the universities.I came to know that there are universities which offer MBA programs for graduates without work experience.

So can you please let me know about the universities mentioned below,as what is the value of their degrees in the market.
Universities are:
London south bank - MBA
Coventry university ? london campus ? mba global business
University of east london ? mba international business
University of glamorgan ? mba
University of wales at new port ? mba
Leeds metropolitan university ? mba

Also I would return back to India after working there for a year.So will the MBA from the above universities be the valued in India?
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Duncan

In India, you'd have the advantage that few people will know exactly how terrible these Freshers MBAs are. I'm not sure that any of them will help you to get a job in Britain. If that is part of your plan, look instead at these http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/masters-in-management-2011

In India, you'd have the advantage that few people will know exactly how terrible these Freshers MBAs are. I'm not sure that any of them will help you to get a job in Britain. If that is part of your plan, look instead at these http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/masters-in-management-2011
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gauravw

Thank you so much Duncan for the quick response.

So what you mean is the freshers MBA offered by the universities mentioned is terrible.

Also I would like to know if doing MBA in any of the above universities will help me in India? What I mean is I would come to about the market in UK,so later doing a job in India I would not have good knowledge of the Indian market.

Making it to the IIM's in India is very tough,so how would you compare freshers MBA in UK Vs freshers MBA in India (not with IIM's) regarding the course content.

Which education UK or India will help me in a long run,to do a job in India?

Thanks in advance.

Thank you so much Duncan for the quick response.

So what you mean is the freshers MBA offered by the universities mentioned is terrible.

Also I would like to know if doing MBA in any of the above universities will help me in India? What I mean is I would come to about the market in UK,so later doing a job in India I would not have good knowledge of the Indian market.

Making it to the IIM's in India is very tough,so how would you compare freshers MBA in UK Vs freshers MBA in India (not with IIM's) regarding the course content.

Which education UK or India will help me in a long run,to do a job in India?

Thanks in advance.
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Duncan

What I mean is that these unranked and unaccredited programmes, the UK 'Fresher' MBAs run at former Polytechnics, are not selective and have limited effectiveness.

On the one hand, they exist only because people come home to India with a British piece of paper that says MBA. There's a big demand to get out of India and come back with an MBA certificate.

On the other hand, they are greatly inferior to masters degrees in management at ranked and accredited business schools. They have better teachers, students, facilities, alumni networks and higher starting salaries.

So, it depends on the sort of job you're looking for in India. If you're looking for the sort of employer who is unconcerned about the quality of your education and who isn't an informed 'consumer' of graduate business schools, then any degree will do. Why have the expense and inconvenience of leaving the country to sit in a room of other Indians complaining about the food and the weather in Britain? You could just as easily attend a school in India and probably get a better education.

Graduates from the pre-experience programmes of top European business schools get *much* better outcomes. Look at http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/masters-in-management-2011 for management and http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/masters-in-finance-pre-experience-2012 for finance.

What I mean is that these unranked and unaccredited programmes, the UK 'Fresher' MBAs run at former Polytechnics, are not selective and have limited effectiveness.

On the one hand, they exist only because people come home to India with a British piece of paper that says MBA. There's a big demand to get out of India and come back with an MBA certificate.

On the other hand, they are greatly inferior to masters degrees in management at ranked and accredited business schools. They have better teachers, students, facilities, alumni networks and higher starting salaries.

So, it depends on the sort of job you're looking for in India. If you're looking for the sort of employer who is unconcerned about the quality of your education and who isn't an informed 'consumer' of graduate business schools, then any degree will do. Why have the expense and inconvenience of leaving the country to sit in a room of other Indians complaining about the food and the weather in Britain? You could just as easily attend a school in India and probably get a better education.

Graduates from the pre-experience programmes of top European business schools get *much* better outcomes. Look at http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/masters-in-management-2011 for management and http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/masters-in-finance-pre-experience-2012 for finance.
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gauravw

Thank you Duncan for the reply.

I am looking for MBA in Australia.I came to know that education in Australia is good.Also they provide a work permit for 2 years after completion of the masters degree and we do get part time jobs during our education.

How are Swinburne University,Deakin University,James Cook ,Central Queensland University for MBA? My plan is to stay there for 2 years after education and then come back to India.So will I find it easy to get a job in India?

Thanks in advance.

Thank you Duncan for the reply.

I am looking for MBA in Australia.I came to know that education in Australia is good.Also they provide a work permit for 2 years after completion of the masters degree and we do get part time jobs during our education.

How are Swinburne University,Deakin University,James Cook ,Central Queensland University for MBA? My plan is to stay there for 2 years after education and then come back to India.So will I find it easy to get a job in India?

Thanks in advance.
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Duncan

Hi Gaurav,

I'm going to give you the same advice as last week: don';t expect the unaccredited MBA programmes which don't require work experience to give you substantially better opportunities in India. Focus on other masters' degrees in higher quality schools.

Hi Gaurav,

I'm going to give you the same advice as last week: don';t expect the unaccredited MBA programmes which don't require work experience to give you substantially better opportunities in India. Focus on other masters' degrees in higher quality schools.
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Mamit

Hi Gaurav,
Its better to go for MSc program with an accredited school rather than MBA from unaccredited school. If you are looking for long term benefits.
Regards
Mamit

Hi Gaurav,
Its better to go for MSc program with an accredited school rather than MBA from unaccredited school. If you are looking for long term benefits.
Regards
Mamit
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