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I have seen that many universities are starting online mbas. Are such programs for people who don’t need to be assisted in finding a job as they already have one? I have recently graduated and was wondering if I can do any such program while working full time? Is it feasible? What are the best ranked online programs and do they make sense for international students not in the country where these programs are offered

I have seen that many universities are starting online mbas. Are such programs for people who don’t need to be assisted in finding a job as they already have one? I have recently graduated and was wondering if I can do any such program while working full time? Is it feasible? What are the best ranked online programs and do they make sense for international students not in the country where these programs are offered
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Duncan

Online degrees fit people who can't go on campus or don't need the other benefits of a campus. They are less good at getting people into traditional MBA roles. 

Most good MBAs require work experience. Other online MiM degrees like the Illinois iMSM are aimed at people with little work experience.  

The FT has a good ranking of online MBAs. They seem to be successful options for students in other countries  

Online degrees fit people who can't go on campus or don't need the other benefits of a campus. They are less good at getting people into traditional MBA roles.&nbsp;<br><br>Most good MBAs require work experience. Other online MiM degrees like the Illinois iMSM are aimed at people with little work experience.&nbsp;&nbsp;<br><br>The FT has a good ranking of online MBAs. They seem to be successful options for students in other countries&nbsp;&nbsp;
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Online degrees fit people who can't go on campus or don't need the other benefits of a campus. They are less good at getting people into traditional MBA roles. 
Most good MBAs require work experience. Other online MiM degrees like the Illinois iMSM are aimed at people with little work experience.  

The FT has a good ranking of online MBAs. They seem to be successful options for students in other countries  


Oh it is the first time I am hearing about an MiM being taught online. What would the experience of such a program be like since they will not be able to have team projects. I see it is a cheap program. Does it mean that they will keep the course easy and admit everyone who apply for it....does it make sence for me to apply as I have no work experience and I can complete it at home or while work? I have currently started a new job in accounting but of corse don't want to spend time on it if it is not a useful degree or a good university? Will this be recognised in India??

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[quote]Online degrees fit people who can't go on campus or don't need the other benefits of a campus. They are less good at getting people into traditional MBA roles.&nbsp;<br>Most good MBAs require work experience. Other online MiM degrees like the Illinois iMSM are aimed at people with little work experience.&nbsp;&nbsp;<br><br>The FT has a good ranking of online MBAs. They seem to be successful options for students in other countries&nbsp;&nbsp; [/quote]<br><br>Oh it is the first time I am hearing about an MiM being taught online. What would the experience of such a program be like since they will not be able to have team projects. I see it is a cheap program. Does it mean that they will keep the course easy and admit everyone who apply for it....does it make sence for me to apply as I have no work experience and I can complete it at home or while work? I have currently started a new job in accounting but of corse don't want to spend time on it if it is not a useful degree or a good university? Will this be recognised in India??
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Duncan

You can have team projects in an online program. 

The iMSM is hugely selective. 

Illinois is one of the world's top universities. 

You will need to ask an Indian about acceptance in India. 

You can have team projects in an online program.&nbsp;<br><br>The iMSM is hugely selective.&nbsp;<br><br>Illinois is one of the world's top universities.&nbsp;<br><br>You will need to ask an Indian about acceptance in India.&nbsp;
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You can have team projects in an online program. 

The iMSM is hugely selective. 

Illinois is one of the world's top universities. 

You will need to ask an Indian about acceptance in India. 


hello sir thank you for your reply. I was wondering how you know that It will be a very selective program since it is the first year. Some students for the iMBA program on quora are saying that there are 1100 students in the iMBA program for Illinois which seems to me a lot. Will this program be more selective than the online mba? Will quality of student body be very high. The requirements for iMBA and msm are the same except for the work exper

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[quote]You can have team projects in an online program.&nbsp;<br><br>The iMSM is hugely selective.&nbsp;<br><br>Illinois is one of the world's top universities.&nbsp;<br><br>You will need to ask an Indian about acceptance in India.&nbsp; [/quote]<br><br>hello sir thank you for your reply. I was wondering how you know that It will be a very selective program since it is the first year. Some students for the iMBA program on quora are saying that there are 1100 students in the iMBA program for Illinois which seems to me a lot. Will this program be more selective than the online mba? Will quality of student body be very high. The requirements for iMBA and msm are the same except for the work exper
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Duncan

The themselves say the iMSM will be highly selective and I have not seen them say the same about their MBA. Entry to the MBA seems very straightforward.  

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The themselves say the iMSM will be highly selective and I have not seen them say the same about their MBA. Entry to the MBA seems very straightforward.&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>
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The themselves say the iMSM will be highly selective and I have not seen them say the same about their MBA. Entry to the MBA seems very straightforward.  

Do you think companies will look at a UIUC online msm favourably on the CV in comparison to university of bath or warwick or University of Melbourne? 
In the following ranking where do you expect it to be in terms of reputation, quality of student, etc parameter, considering the university brand name? 

http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/masters-in-management-2019

[quote]The themselves say the iMSM will be highly selective and I have not seen them say the same about their MBA. Entry to the MBA seems very straightforward.&nbsp;&nbsp;<br> [/quote]<br>Do you think companies will look at a UIUC online msm favourably on the CV in comparison to university of bath or warwick or University of Melbourne?&nbsp;<br>In the following ranking where do you expect it to be in terms of reputation, quality of student, etc parameter, considering the university brand name?&nbsp;<br><br>http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/masters-in-management-2019<br><br>
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The themselves say the iMSM will be highly selective and I have not seen them say the same about their MBA. Entry to the MBA seems very straightforward.  

Will a msm from Illinois look good on my CV to firms? Where do you expect it to be in terms of the student quality, brand name, Course quality if it were ranked in the FT MiM ranking....below warwick? below bath university or after the top 50-60? I know that the ft is on campus ranking but I am just curious about how it would compare to the brand name or coursework or quality of top 50 ft ranking MIM schools.
Thank you sir for your help

[Edited by Shaurya123412 on Jun 23, 2020]

[quote]The themselves say the iMSM will be highly selective and I have not seen them say the same about their MBA. Entry to the MBA seems very straightforward.&nbsp;&nbsp;<br> [/quote]<br>Will a msm from Illinois look good on my CV to firms? Where do you expect it to be in terms of the student quality, brand name, Course quality&nbsp;if it were ranked in the FT MiM ranking....below warwick? below bath university or after the top 50-60? I know that the ft is on campus ranking but I am just curious about how it would compare to the brand name or coursework or quality of top 50 ft ranking MIM schools.<br>Thank you sir for your help
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StuartBB

Illinois is a more prestigious university than Warwick: older, richer, more respected: https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2019/reputation-ranking#!/page/0/length/100/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats

Of course, individual firms and managers have their own ideas. In practice, managers value the firms their managers and staff have attended. A manager in Egypt might prefer a candidate from Ain Shams University to a candidate from Harvard. 

In the MiM ranking, salary and career progress are major drivers. People in the iMSM will tend to be in the developing world, and unlike full-time students they won't all change role, so I am not sure it or any other online MiM would be ranked if it met the criteria.

In terms of quality, I'd make a comparison with the students at the MiMs (mostly in what the FT calls the second group) that get most of their students from Asia: Cass, Edinburgh; Grenoble, Imperial, Sydney, UCD; and Warwick. iMSM students will be similarly able but more students will come from more normal, less privileged, families. Students whose families can invest $100k are different from those who spend $10k. iMSM students might speak fewer European languages, have less international work experience, have less 'blue chip' experience, better manicures etc than the students at the second and third group schools. Educationally, I think the iMSM has some advantages: a much bigger core (24 US credit hours, or around 100 UK credits in the core). At many UK MiM programmes, such as Edinburgh, the core is taught in one semester, so 60 UK credits or 15 US credit hours.

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Illinois is a more prestigious university than Warwick: older, richer, more respected:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2019/reputation-ranking#!/page/0/length/100/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats">https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2019/reputation-ranking#!/page/0/length/100/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats</a><br><br>Of course, individual firms and managers have their own ideas. In practice, managers value the firms their managers and staff have attended. A manager in Egypt might prefer a candidate from&nbsp;<span style="color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.6); font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, &quot;Segoe UI&quot;, Roboto, &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, &quot;Fira Sans&quot;, Ubuntu, Oxygen, &quot;Oxygen Sans&quot;, Cantarell, &quot;Droid Sans&quot;, &quot;Apple Color Emoji&quot;, &quot;Segoe UI Emoji&quot;, &quot;Segoe UI Symbol&quot;, &quot;Lucida Grande&quot;, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">Ain Shams University to a candidate from Harvard.&nbsp;</span><br><br>In the MiM ranking, salary and career progress are major drivers. People in the iMSM will tend to be in the developing world, and unlike full-time students they won't all change role, so I am not sure it or any other online MiM would be ranked if it met the criteria.<br><br>In terms of quality, I'd make a comparison with the students at the MiMs (mostly in what the FT calls the second group) that get most of their students from Asia: Cass, Edinburgh; Grenoble, Imperial, Sydney, UCD; and Warwick. iMSM students will be similarly able but more students will come from more normal, less privileged, families. Students whose families can invest $100k are different from those who spend $10k. iMSM students might speak fewer European languages, have less international work experience, have less 'blue chip' experience, better manicures etc than the students at the second and third group schools. Educationally, I think the iMSM has some advantages: a much bigger core (24 US credit hours, or around 100 UK credits in the core). At many UK MiM programmes, such as Edinburgh, the core is taught in one semester, so 60 UK credits or 15 US credit hours.
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Why does the school admit 1100 students for the imba? The acceptance rate for the mba used to be 50 percent a few years ago for the imba I read. Will the school treat the imsm similarly as well? 

Why does the school admit 1100 students for the imba? The acceptance rate for the mba used to be 50 percent a few years ago for the imba I read. Will the school treat the imsm similarly as well?&nbsp;
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Duncan

They admit so many students because that is the goal of the school. They closed their fulltime and executives MBA  to focus  on this huge opportunity  with Coursera. That is why they got that massive endowment, to expand the audience of the MBA. 

They admit so many students because that is the goal of the school. They closed their fulltime and executives MBA&nbsp; to focus&nbsp; on this huge opportunity&nbsp; with Coursera. That is why they got that massive endowment, to expand the audience of the MBA.&nbsp;
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They admit so many students because that is the goal of the school. They closed their fulltime and executives MBA  to focus  on this huge opportunity  with Coursera. That is why they got that massive endowment, to expand the audience of the MBA. 

Wouldn't that mean that the course will be watered down and the acceptance rate will be more than 80 percent or so? In this case wouldn't it just mean that people who don't get in anywhere will go for such a program just to get an mba and most of the people will not have any benefit as the majority is from developing countries where people don't know the school? How do you compare this to a school like ASU or Indiana which asks for the GMAT even though the average at asu online MBA is only 570? 
Do you think the degree like imsm will be looked upto favourably and will be worth anything or will they treat it like the imba and admit whoever applies and it will just be a worthless piece of diploma.

Thank you for your time 

[quote]They admit so many students because that is the goal of the school. They closed their fulltime and executives MBA&nbsp; to focus&nbsp; on this huge opportunity&nbsp; with Coursera. That is why they got that massive endowment, to expand the audience of the MBA.&nbsp; [/quote]<br>Wouldn't that mean that the course will be watered down and the acceptance rate will be more than 80 percent or so? In this case wouldn't it just mean that people who don't get in anywhere will go for such a program just to get an mba and most of the people will not have any benefit as the majority is from developing countries where people don't know the school? How do you compare this to a school like ASU or Indiana which asks for the GMAT even though the average at asu online MBA is only 570?&nbsp;<br>Do you think the degree like imsm will be looked upto favourably and will be worth anything or will they treat it like the imba and admit whoever applies and it will just be a worthless piece of diploma.<br><br>Thank you for your time&nbsp;<br><br>
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Illinois is a more prestigious university than Warwick: older, richer, more respected: https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2019/reputation-ranking#!/page/0/length/100/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats

Of course, individual firms and managers have their own ideas. In practice, managers value the firms their managers and staff have attended. A manager in Egypt might prefer a candidate from Ain Shams University to a candidate from Harvard. 

In the MiM ranking, salary and career progress are major drivers. People in the iMSM will tend to be in the developing world, and unlike full-time students they won't all change role, so I am not sure it or any other online MiM would be ranked if it met the criteria.

In terms of quality, I'd make a comparison with the students at the MiMs (mostly in what the FT calls the second group) that get most of their students from Asia: Cass, Edinburgh; Grenoble, Imperial, Sydney, UCD; and Warwick. iMSM students will be similarly able but more students will come from more normal, less privileged, families. Students whose families can invest $100k are different from those who spend $10k. iMSM students might speak fewer European languages, have less international work experience, have less 'blue chip' experience, better manicures etc than the students at the second and third group schools. Educationally, I think the iMSM has some advantages: a much bigger core (24 US credit hours, or around 100 UK credits in the core). At many UK MiM programmes, such as Edinburgh, the core is taught in one semester, so 60 UK credits or 15 US credit hours.

Thank you sir for your reply. People are telling me that the university is accepting 1100 students for the imba which would mean that they are not rejecting anyone at all. In this case how do you think they will compete with a school like warwick or imperial? Would employers just think of this degree as a useless diploma as they would have seen so many people with the Illinois degree 

[quote]Illinois is a more prestigious university than Warwick: older, richer, more respected:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2019/reputation-ranking#!/page/0/length/100/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats">https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2019/reputation-ranking#!/page/0/length/100/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats</a><br><br>Of course, individual firms and managers have their own ideas. In practice, managers value the firms their managers and staff have attended. A manager in Egypt might prefer a candidate from&nbsp;<span style="color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.6); font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, &quot;Segoe UI&quot;, Roboto, &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, &quot;Fira Sans&quot;, Ubuntu, Oxygen, &quot;Oxygen Sans&quot;, Cantarell, &quot;Droid Sans&quot;, &quot;Apple Color Emoji&quot;, &quot;Segoe UI Emoji&quot;, &quot;Segoe UI Symbol&quot;, &quot;Lucida Grande&quot;, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">Ain Shams University to a candidate from Harvard.&nbsp;</span><br><br>In the MiM ranking, salary and career progress are major drivers. People in the iMSM will tend to be in the developing world, and unlike full-time students they won't all change role, so I am not sure it or any other online MiM would be ranked if it met the criteria.<br><br>In terms of quality, I'd make a comparison with the students at the MiMs (mostly in what the FT calls the second group) that get most of their students from Asia: Cass, Edinburgh; Grenoble, Imperial, Sydney, UCD; and Warwick. iMSM students will be similarly able but more students will come from more normal, less privileged, families. Students whose families can invest $100k are different from those who spend $10k. iMSM students might speak fewer European languages, have less international work experience, have less 'blue chip' experience, better manicures etc than the students at the second and third group schools. Educationally, I think the iMSM has some advantages: a much bigger core (24 US credit hours, or around 100 UK credits in the core). At many UK MiM programmes, such as Edinburgh, the core is taught in one semester, so 60 UK credits or 15 US credit hours. [/quote]<br>Thank you sir for your reply. People are telling me that the university is accepting 1100 students for the imba which would mean that they are not rejecting anyone at all. In this case how do you think they will compete with a school like warwick or imperial? Would employers just think of this degree as a useless diploma as they would have seen so many people with the Illinois degree&nbsp;<br>
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Duncan

I don't get your point. The size of a school is not the same as its selectivity. 

I don't get your point. The size of a school is not the same as its selectivity.&nbsp;
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smartcanad...


will they treat it like the imba and admit whoever applies and it will just be a worthless piece of diploma.


You keep referring to the IMBA (in your own words) as "a worthless piece of diploma" or a "useless diploma".  Not sure if it is obvious to you, but I would like to respectfully point out that you sound like an elitist or a troll.  We are all educated adults here - let's keep this board objective and civil.     

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[quote]<br>will they treat it like the imba and admit whoever applies and it will just be a worthless piece of diploma.<br>[/quote]<br><br>You keep referring to the IMBA (in your own words) as "a worthless piece of diploma" or a "useless diploma".&nbsp; Not sure if it is obvious to you, but I would like to respectfully point out that you sound like an elitist or a troll.&nbsp; We are all educated adults here - let's keep this board objective and civil.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
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Duncan

This person doesn't understand how the iMBA works. Over 15,000 people have started an iMBA specialization,  and a far smaller number are admitted as degree candidates. 

This person doesn't understand how the iMBA works. Over 15,000 people have started an iMBA specialization,&nbsp; and a far smaller number are admitted as degree candidates.&nbsp;
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