Visa Germany


iuri

Hey guys,
I am from Indonesia and I intend to do an MBA in Germany. No experience in Europe at all. Is it difficult to get a visa? Can it be tricky, what should I be beware of?

Hey guys,
I am from Indonesia and I intend to do an MBA in Germany. No experience in Europe at all. Is it difficult to get a visa? Can it be tricky, what should I be beware of?
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Budi

Due to your question about student visa for Germany.
Acctually it is not difficult to get any student visa, as long as you can fulfill all the requirements, which they demand.
I will mention below the most important things for applying a student visa:
First of all, you need an invitation from the university to get your visa. Which means that you have to apply an MBA program at the university in Germany. The requirements to be accepted at the university are usually mentioned in the university website.
And second, you would have to propound a sum of money (e.g. 5 years ago, around 12.000 DM / 6.000 EUR) as deposit. This is used as an averment for the German embassy that you can afford your study, otherwise you must add any surety in your application paper.
Please note that you should not come to the embassy with any incomplete paper of application. This can cause the embassy to decline your visa.
For further informations you can find in www.daad.de (Deutscher Akademischer Austauschdienst / German Academic Exchange Service).
Good Luck, Iuri!!
Please let know, if you should meet any problem.

Regards,

Budi S.

Due to your question about student visa for Germany.
Acctually it is not difficult to get any student visa, as long as you can fulfill all the requirements, which they demand.
I will mention below the most important things for applying a student visa:
First of all, you need an invitation from the university to get your visa. Which means that you have to apply an MBA program at the university in Germany. The requirements to be accepted at the university are usually mentioned in the university website.
And second, you would have to propound a sum of money (e.g. 5 years ago, around 12.000 DM / 6.000 EUR) as deposit. This is used as an averment for the German embassy that you can afford your study, otherwise you must add any surety in your application paper.
Please note that you should not come to the embassy with any incomplete paper of application. This can cause the embassy to decline your visa.
For further informations you can find in www.daad.de (Deutscher Akademischer Austauschdienst / German Academic Exchange Service).
Good Luck, Iuri!!
Please let know, if you should meet any problem.

Regards,

Budi S.
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iuri

Hello Budi,
Thanks for your help! It sounds as if you studied in Germany?
Could you give some information about other questions?

First of all I would like to find a job in Germany after doing an MBA. Can you advise, are there possibilities having a German MBA? What do I have to watch out for?
Is there some preference in terms of specialization?

Thanks in advance,
Iuri

Hello Budi,
Thanks for your help! It sounds as if you studied in Germany?
Could you give some information about other questions?

First of all I would like to find a job in Germany after doing an MBA. Can you advise, are there possibilities having a German MBA? What do I have to watch out for?
Is there some preference in terms of specialization?

Thanks in advance,
Iuri
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Kate_hk

The visa matter is ok for study purposes.
But if you want to work in Germany, you need a working permit. To get one can be soft and easy - if you have an employer in Germany. But you will have a hard time if you come for studies only, with the intention to stay for work, but no employer in the first place.

Where do you work now? You should well prepare this, and use a max your current situation. Watch out!
kate

The visa matter is ok for study purposes.
But if you want to work in Germany, you need a working permit. To get one can be soft and easy - if you have an employer in Germany. But you will have a hard time if you come for studies only, with the intention to stay for work, but no employer in the first place.

Where do you work now? You should well prepare this, and use a max your current situation. Watch out!
kate
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iuri

I am working for an international bank in Singapore. They have a branch in Germany, I think in Frankfurt.
Ideal situation would be if I could work for them in Frankfurt. But until now I did not address the subject.

It's a delicate moment, as they are currently moving part of the activity from Frankfurt to low cost countries, so my request, get higher qulaification, become more expensive employee (with a German MBA), and work in the high cost country, is exactly opposite of the general development.
What could I do? It's a bit hopeless.

I am working for an international bank in Singapore. They have a branch in Germany, I think in Frankfurt.
Ideal situation would be if I could work for them in Frankfurt. But until now I did not address the subject.

It's a delicate moment, as they are currently moving part of the activity from Frankfurt to low cost countries, so my request, get higher qulaification, become more expensive employee (with a German MBA), and work in the high cost country, is exactly opposite of the general development.
What could I do? It's a bit hopeless.
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Kate_hk

Hello Iuri,
You are in a good position, use it!
I was working in a Hong Kong based company, and intergrated a job in their partner company while I was doing my MBA in Germany. I always thought that I was very lucky doing it that way. It makes life so much easier to be employed by a German company, really!
By the way, which MBA are you interested in?
Kate

Hello Iuri,
You are in a good position, use it!
I was working in a Hong Kong based company, and intergrated a job in their partner company while I was doing my MBA in Germany. I always thought that I was very lucky doing it that way. It makes life so much easier to be employed by a German company, really!
By the way, which MBA are you interested in?
Kate
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a_mukerjee

Dear Iuri,
I know what you are talking about. I work in an international bank in Mumbai, and I was always hoping to get the chance to do an MBA in the US. I thought I was in best position with my job!
But now Indian finance experts are only sent to the US or Europe for short period for of time in order get the necessary know-how to export the job to India.
Good for us that more job opportunities are created in our countries - bad for our individual career prospect in US/Europe. But we have to accept it.
Good luck and greetings
Attiya

Dear Iuri,
I know what you are talking about. I work in an international bank in Mumbai, and I was always hoping to get the chance to do an MBA in the US. I thought I was in best position with my job!
But now Indian finance experts are only sent to the US or Europe for short period for of time in order get the necessary know-how to export the job to India.
Good for us that more job opportunities are created in our countries - bad for our individual career prospect in US/Europe. But we have to accept it.
Good luck and greetings
Attiya
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Kate_hk

Don't be so pessimistic guys!
You have to see that whole thing in a different way: You are intersting for your company because you are qualified and have a longer experience in the company. An MBA in Europe or US adds substantially some know how. Your companies have a huge benefit from that.
DOn't compare yourself to these "fresh" employees, your value is a different one.
kate

Don't be so pessimistic guys!
You have to see that whole thing in a different way: You are intersting for your company because you are qualified and have a longer experience in the company. An MBA in Europe or US adds substantially some know how. Your companies have a huge benefit from that.
DOn't compare yourself to these "fresh" employees, your value is a different one.
kate
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a_mukerjee

I have never considered going to Europe for an MBA. I always had the feeling that an MBA from the US is always a better choice, in terms of international reputation, and especially reputation in Asian business world.
Am I wrong here?

I have never considered going to Europe for an MBA. I always had the feeling that an MBA from the US is always a better choice, in terms of international reputation, and especially reputation in Asian business world.
Am I wrong here?
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uniipa

Im interested in doing an MBA in the german speaking part of the world and I have come to find that there are two almost new MBA programs that according to the information on the web, they sound really promising: MBA program at St Gallen University in Switzerland and ESMT program in Berlin Germany, this last program very expensive by the way; do any of you know if these are good programs or it is better to go and try the well known MBA's

Im interested in doing an MBA in the german speaking part of the world and I have come to find that there are two almost new MBA programs that according to the information on the web, they sound really promising: MBA program at St Gallen University in Switzerland and ESMT program in Berlin Germany, this last program very expensive by the way; do any of you know if these are good programs or it is better to go and try the well known MBA's
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Malia

The European School OF management and Technology (esmt) is a private university with seat in Berlin.

On 31 October 2002 25 German business enterprises and federations created the esmt donation with the goal of the structure of an international management school in Germany. In October 2003 the senate of Berlin left esmt as private scientific university too.

Since 9 January 2006 the study enterprise runs in Berlin with a Fulltime MBA program (master OF Business administration). But the former Council of State building in Berlin was removed to a Universitätscampus. A further location is the second Campus in Munich (coat of arms-resounds in former airport building). The third Campus is in close proximity to Cologne.

Alphabetical list of the founder enterprises:

* Alliance Group
* Axel Springer
* Federal Employers Association
* BDI
* BMW Group
* Bosch
* DaimlerChrysler
* Deutsche Bank
* German Lufthansa
* German post office World Net
* German Telekom
* EADS N.V.
* E.ON
* E.ON Ruhr gas
* HVB Group
* KPMG
* MAN Group
* McKinsey & company
* Munich RH Group
* RWE
* SAP
* Schering
* Siemens
* The Boston Consulting Group
* ThyssenKrupp

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I translated this text from wikipedia

The European School OF management and Technology (esmt) is a private university with seat in Berlin.

On 31 October 2002 25 German business enterprises and federations created the esmt donation with the goal of the structure of an international management school in Germany. In October 2003 the senate of Berlin left esmt as private scientific university too.

Since 9 January 2006 the study enterprise runs in Berlin with a Fulltime MBA program (master OF Business administration). But the former Council of State building in Berlin was removed to a Universitätscampus. A further location is the second Campus in Munich (coat of arms-resounds in former airport building). The third Campus is in close proximity to Cologne.

Alphabetical list of the founder enterprises:

* Alliance Group
* Axel Springer
* Federal Employers Association
* BDI
* BMW Group
* Bosch
* DaimlerChrysler
* Deutsche Bank
* German Lufthansa
* German post office World Net
* German Telekom
* EADS N.V.
* E.ON
* E.ON Ruhr gas
* HVB Group
* KPMG
* MAN Group
* McKinsey & company
* Munich RH Group
* RWE
* SAP
* Schering
* Siemens
* The Boston Consulting Group
* ThyssenKrupp

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I translated this text from wikipedia
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a_mukerjee

Hi Malia,
That sound serious in terms of connection to the business, if all these internaionally known companies are involved.

Do you have infromationa about accreditation?
Attiya

Hi Malia,
That sound serious in terms of connection to the business, if all these internaionally known companies are involved.

Do you have infromationa about accreditation?
Attiya
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Hi Attiya,
This school, esmt, does not have accreditation yet because it is so new, but it definitely will achieve accr. if you look at the profile of the school.
Check out the possibilities of sponsorships! http://www.esmt.org/en/78031
Jörg

Hi Attiya,
This school, esmt, does not have accreditation yet because it is so new, but it definitely will achieve accr. if you look at the profile of the school.
Check out the possibilities of sponsorships! http://www.esmt.org/en/78031
Jörg
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a_mukerjee

I will do that! The school sounds really good, thanks for your help, Joerg.

Attiya



I will do that! The school sounds really good, thanks for your help, Joerg.

Attiya
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