Some help to choose a program


luis_hz

Hi guys! I need some help to make my final decision.
I am going to make this quick:

Age:25
Background: Mechanical Engineering (1.5 years of experience in this field)
Nationality: Portuguese
Goal: Get a good job (with a good salary) in management/consultancy, I don't mind where, but I would rather in places with high quality of life.

I need some help to decide among several options:

A-Master in European Business, MEB in ESCP-Europe. This school is well know for the its MiM, somebody knows about the MEB? starting salaries?

B- MiM, EADA.

C-MBM. Strathclyde

D-MiM. Smurfit UCD

E- MiM. Henley BS. It is not rank, some information?

F-MBM. FGV-EAESP. The same, some opinion?

(...other options) Maastricht Univ., Brunel...

Thanks so much in advance :)
I look forward to your opinions.

Hi guys! I need some help to make my final decision.
I am going to make this quick:

Age:25
Background: Mechanical Engineering (1.5 years of experience in this field)
Nationality: Portuguese
Goal: Get a good job (with a good salary) in management/consultancy, I don't mind where, but I would rather in places with high quality of life. [I have a slightly preference for 1-Europe; 2-North/South America; in this order]

I need some help to decide among several options:

A-Master in European Business, MEB in ESCP-Europe. This school is well know for the its MiM, somebody knows about the MEB? starting salaries?

B- MiM, EADA.

C-MBM. Strathclyde

D-MiM. Smurfit UCD

E- MiM. Henley BS. It is not rank, some information?

F-MBM. FGV-EAESP. The same, some opinion?

(...other options) Maastricht Univ., Brunel...

Thanks so much in advance :)
I look forward to your opinions.
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Duncan

Henley *is* ranked under the name "University of Reading". The FT MiM ranking is very useful.

Henley *is* ranked under the name "University of Reading". The FT MiM ranking is very useful.
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luis_hz

Thanks Duncan. In fact, I have asked in the board after researching a lot in several rankings. (A), (E) (F) are not ranked in FT MiM. (A) and (E) are ranked but from other programs.
I would like to have a aware opinion about these programs.

Thanks Duncan. In fact, I have asked in the board after researching a lot in several rankings. (A), (E) (F) are not ranked in FT MiM. (A) and (E) are ranked but from other programs.
I would like to have a aware opinion about these programs.
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Duncan

MEB is aimed at Asians who want to work for import-expert businesses in their home country. Not a good fit for you.

I'm surprised that Henley isn't in the ranking yet. Good school, especially for finance.

FGV's a good school, bit not on a par educationally with the top US and European schools.

MEB is aimed at Asians who want to work for import-expert businesses in their home country. Not a good fit for you.

I'm surprised that Henley isn't in the ranking yet. Good school, especially for finance.

FGV's a good school, bit not on a par educationally with the top US and European schools.
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luis_hz

Thasnks for your post JK Duncan.

-About the MEB. It is surprising that the program is made for Asians, as 72% of the cohort in last year were from Europe.

-About Henley. Does somebody have some information about prospective salaries?

Many thanks :)

Thasnks for your post JK Duncan.

-About the MEB. It is surprising that the program is made for Asians, as 72% of the cohort in last year were from Europe.

-About Henley. Does somebody have some information about prospective salaries?

Many thanks :)

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Duncan

Wow you're right: http://www.escpeurope.eu/escp-europe-programmes/master-in-european-business-meb-escp-europe/master-in-european-business/overview/student-profiles-meb-escp-europe-business-school/ I've clearly not kept up to date with the MEB.

Henley can give you more exact data, but I'd expect its salary to be fairly average for the UK schools, as its MiF degree salaries are, and broadly in line with Manchester, Aston, Edinburgh...

Wow you're right: http://www.escpeurope.eu/escp-europe-programmes/master-in-european-business-meb-escp-europe/master-in-european-business/overview/student-profiles-meb-escp-europe-business-school/ I've clearly not kept up to date with the MEB.

Henley can give you more exact data, but I'd expect its salary to be fairly average for the UK schools, as its MiF degree salaries are, and broadly in line with Manchester, Aston, Edinburgh...
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luis_hz

No problem Duncan. Anyway, I really appreciate your posts (up to now you are the only one trying to help me).

However, unless somebody provides me with something against, I think the MEB in ESCP can be my best option.

No problem Duncan. Anyway, I really appreciate your posts (up to now you are the only one trying to help me).

However, unless somebody provides me with something against, I think the MEB in ESCP can be my best option.
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Duncan

It looks good. Which countries would you prefer?

It looks good. Which countries would you prefer?
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luis_hz

Well, I really don't mind.

I like big cities as safe as possible, that's why my first option is Europe.

_Europe: I have travelled around Europe,and I would be happy to live in any big city.
On the one hand, I like live-style of Southern Europe (specially Spain and Portugal) but I would rather Northern salaries...

_North America: I have never been there but I can imagine it is a good place.
Disadvantages: Lots of formalities due to my status of European Citizien.

_Latin America. I have been there several times and... It's not my cup of tea. Maybe for a short period would be OK, just for doing business, but not for living.
Disadvantages:The same as for North America+ a bit insecure

However, I really open to these and other choices.
I would only need to have a good opportunity.

Well, I really don't mind.

I like big cities as safe as possible, that's why my first option is Europe.

_Europe: I have travelled around Europe,and I would be happy to live in any big city.
On the one hand, I like live-style of Southern Europe (specially Spain and Portugal) but I would rather Northern salaries...

_North America: I have never been there but I can imagine it is a good place.
Disadvantages: Lots of formalities due to my status of European Citizien.

_Latin America. I have been there several times and... It's not my cup of tea. Maybe for a short period would be OK, just for doing business, but not for living.
Disadvantages:The same as for North America+ a bit insecure

However, I really open to these and other choices.
I would only need to have a good opportunity.
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Duncan

The MEB salaries look good: http://www.escpeurope.eu/escp-europe-programmes/master-in-european-business-meb-escp-europe/master-in-european-business/overview/careers-meb-escp-europe-business-school/ I think Paris and London would be interested campus choices.

The MEB salaries look good: http://www.escpeurope.eu/escp-europe-programmes/master-in-european-business-meb-escp-europe/master-in-european-business/overview/careers-meb-escp-europe-business-school/ I think Paris and London would be interested campus choices.
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luis_hz

Yes... MEB in ESCP is not bad (around 52k $) but if I focus in salaries, maybe I have better options, such as EADA or Maastricht(both 55k $), or even Strathclyde if I end up doing the conversion to MBA (around 65k $) http://www.topmba.com/institution/university-of-strathclyde-business-school

And I don't have salary data about MBM in EASP-FGV...and they said to me that they don't have either(...).

What do you think?

Many thanks :)

Yes... MEB in ESCP is not bad (around 52k $) but if I focus in salaries, maybe I have better options, such as EADA or Maastricht(both 55k $), or even Strathclyde if I end up doing the conversion to MBA (around 65k $) http://www.topmba.com/institution/university-of-strathclyde-business-school

And I don't have salary data about MBM in EASP-FGV...and they said to me that they don't have either(...).

What do you think?

Many thanks :)
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Duncan

Are you including living costs in those fees?

Unless you're thinking of the MSc in finance at EADA, I don't think it's a better investment than ESCP, which is a top-ten school (http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/european-business-school-rankings-2012).

FGV isn't a great school unless you;re sure you want to stay in Brazil.

Are you including living costs in those fees?

Unless you're thinking of the MSc in finance at EADA, I don't think it's a better investment than ESCP, which is a top-ten school (http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/european-business-school-rankings-2012).

FGV isn't a great school unless you;re sure you want to stay in Brazil.
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R.C.2013

are you interested to focus in international emerging market and an intense one year MBA? If you're up to this challenge, please check out ESSEC Business School in Paris. In France it's one of the leading business school, direct competitor of HEC; for years known more for its specific Luxury MBA and Hospitality MBA. However now it has Global MBA, which targets the general MBA as usual. The structure of the program is very dynamic and distinct: You'll learn in its Paris campus and SIngapore campus, go to a field trip and the final project would be in an emerging market. For example, my current year has been: 1st term and half of 2nd term in Paris Campus, the other half of 2nd term (1 and 1/2 months) in ESSEC Singapore Campus, exchanges (1 week or up to 3 months) with partner schools (if you opt in), 1 field trip to an emerging market (this year to South Africa market), and final consulting project will also be in an emerging market (I got a position in India working for a green sustainability project). If this is something that you'd be interested in, check out www.essec.edu for the Global MBA program.

Regards,
R.C.

are you interested to focus in international emerging market and an intense one year MBA? If you're up to this challenge, please check out ESSEC Business School in Paris. In France it's one of the leading business school, direct competitor of HEC; for years known more for its specific Luxury MBA and Hospitality MBA. However now it has Global MBA, which targets the general MBA as usual. The structure of the program is very dynamic and distinct: You'll learn in its Paris campus and SIngapore campus, go to a field trip and the final project would be in an emerging market. For example, my current year has been: 1st term and half of 2nd term in Paris Campus, the other half of 2nd term (1 and 1/2 months) in ESSEC Singapore Campus, exchanges (1 week or up to 3 months) with partner schools (if you opt in), 1 field trip to an emerging market (this year to South Africa market), and final consulting project will also be in an emerging market (I got a position in India working for a green sustainability project). If this is something that you'd be interested in, check out www.essec.edu for the Global MBA program.

Regards,
R.C.
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Duncan

Why are you recommending the Global MBA to someone with 1.5 years' work experience? Their application would be rejected immediately.

Why are you recommending the Global MBA to someone with 1.5 years' work experience? Their application would be rejected immediately.
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R.C.2013

Judging that this is almost end of June, I assume it'd be for next year's application round. Besides, this could be an additional consideration as having management eduction when you have experience in management level would be more applicable. A minimum of 3 years experience, if the applicant has a good case and experience, is acceptable.

Judging that this is almost end of June, I assume it'd be for next year's application round. Besides, this could be an additional consideration as having management eduction when you have experience in management level would be more applicable. A minimum of 3 years experience, if the applicant has a good case and experience, is acceptable.
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Duncan

The ESSEC website says it looks for "high-potential young professionals with an average, relevant, post-bachelor work experience of at least 4 to 6 years". Even 2.5 years this time next year is less than that minimum, and since the average on the ESSEC MBA is ten years even a candidate with 2.5 years would be unlikely to be placed.

The ESSEC website says it looks for "high-potential young professionals with an average, relevant, post-bachelor work experience of at least 4 to 6 years". Even 2.5 years this time next year is less than that minimum, and since the average on the ESSEC MBA is ten years even a candidate with 2.5 years would be unlikely to be placed.
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R.C.2013

In the current program there is an exception of someone with 3 years experience =) so it all depends on each person's case and experience of course.

In the current program there is an exception of someone with 3 years experience =) so it all depends on each person's case and experience of course.
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Duncan

Honestly, how would you rate *this* candidate's chance of admission at ESSEC?

Remember, this is someone now with 1.5 years experience in mechanical engineering, whose goal is "Get a good job (with a good salary) in management/consultancy, I don't mind where",

I would be willing to stake a bet on this...

Honestly, how would you rate *this* candidate's chance of admission at ESSEC?

Remember, this is someone now with 1.5 years experience in mechanical engineering, whose goal is "Get a good job (with a good salary) in management/consultancy, I don't mind where",

I would be willing to stake a bet on this...
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