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How good is the grenoble mba in GISMA Business School

How good is the grenoble mba in GISMA Business School
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Duncan

I cannot imagine any scenario where this is the best choice for anyone. What are your goals? 

I cannot imagine any scenario where this is the best choice for anyone. What are your goals? 
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Duncan, I am looking for a feasible MBA in Europe with good amount of exposure & career opportunities. However, My only constraint is GMAT. As per your research field & criteria do suggest what country & what college could be a good fit. 

Duncan, I am looking for a feasible MBA in Europe with good amount of exposure & career opportunities. However, My only constraint is GMAT. As per your research field & criteria do suggest what country & what college could be a good fit. 
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Duncan

I'm not sure what feasible means in this context. Take a look at https://find-mba.com/board/gmat/why-you-should-take-the-gmat-33542
After that read:
GMAT Tiers - strong schools for your GMAT www.find-mba.com/board/27082
Best MBAs for international students' placement http://www.find-mba.com/board/41143
Do you need to speak the local language? www.find-mba.com/board/34713
How to use LinkedIn to find the best school www.find-mba.com/board/33571

<div>I'm not sure what feasible means in this context. Take a look at&nbsp;https://find-mba.com/board/gmat/why-you-should-take-the-gmat-33542</div><div><br></div><div>After that read:</div><div><br></div><div>GMAT Tiers - strong schools for your GMAT www.find-mba.com/board/27082</div><div><br></div><div>Best MBAs for international students' placement http://www.find-mba.com/board/41143</div><div><br></div><div>Do you need to speak the local language? www.find-mba.com/board/34713</div><div><br></div><div>How to use LinkedIn to find the best school www.find-mba.com/board/33571</div>
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Hi Duncan, Feasible here means that I would be looking for decent college which would infact give me good career opportunities , where GMAT is not compulsory

Hi Duncan, Feasible here means that I would be looking for decent college which would infact give me good career opportunities , where GMAT is not compulsory
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Duncan

Ah! If you are open to taking alternative tests, like the GRE, then some of the best schools for placement are open to you. But without an admissions test, there are no great schools for you. 

[Edited by Duncan on May 12, 2020]

Ah! If you are open to taking alternative tests, like the GRE, then some of the best schools for placement are open to you. But without an admissions test, there are no great schools for you.&nbsp;
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How good is the grenoble mba in GISMA Business School

I'm planning to study at this school too, I've been talking with them recently and I'm planning to apply for the next semester because there is a discount right now. But when I found this forum and Duncan I'm a little bit confused. 
A lot of people are saying that WHU is the best university to get your MBA degree from in Germany but it's more expansive than GISMA and I think getting accepted there is a bit difficult. 
So what do you think?
I wanna study in Europe especially in Germany, but I'm confused about which university I should pick because it's an important decision that can determine your life.
Thank you Duncan for your help, I see your comments everywhere in this forum :)

[quote]How good is the grenoble mba in GISMA Business School [/quote]<div><br></div><div>I'm planning to study at this school too, I've been talking with them recently and I'm planning to apply for the next semester because there is a discount right now. But when I found this forum and Duncan I'm a little bit confused.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>A lot of people are saying that WHU is the best university to get your MBA degree from in Germany but it's more expansive than GISMA and I think getting accepted there is a bit difficult.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>So what do you think?</div><div><br></div><div>I wanna study in Europe especially in Germany, but I'm confused about which university I should pick because it's an important decision that can determine your life.</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you Duncan for your help, I see your comments everywhere in this forum :)</div>
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Duncan

You are right that WHU is better and more expensive than GISMA, and harder to get into. I never heard of anyone not be accepted by GISMA: that is the nature of for-profit schools. And they always offer discounts. No-one pays the full price. 
Absolutely, if you can get into a very good school, then do. ESMT, HHL, Mannheim, ESB, EBS... These are all very good. And if you cannot get into a very good school then get into a state university. Then, if you cant get into a state university then get into a university of applied sciences. But I cannot see any reason to go to GISMA. 

You are right that WHU is better and more expensive than GISMA, and harder to get into. I never heard of anyone not be accepted by GISMA: that is the nature of for-profit schools. And they always offer discounts. No-one pays the full price.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Absolutely, if you can get into a very good school, then do. ESMT, HHL, Mannheim, ESB, EBS... These are all very good. And if you cannot get into a very good school then get into a state university. Then, if you cant get into a state university then get into a university of applied sciences. But I cannot see any reason to go to GISMA.&nbsp;</div>
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You are right that WHU is better and more expensive than GISMA, and harder to get into. I never heard of anyone not be accepted by GISMA: that is the nature of for-profit schools. And they always offer discounts. No-one pays the full price. 
Absolutely, if you can get into a very good school, then do. ESMT, HHL, Mannheim, ESB, EBS... These are all very good. And if you cannot get into a very good school then get into a state university. Then, if you cant get into a state university then get into a university of applied sciences. But I cannot see any reason to go to GISMA. 

Well, I wanna study I GISMA because of two things. First, they're located in Berlin, which is a great city to study as a foreigner. Secounde their degree will be from Grenoble Ecole de Management, I've used your Linkedin method and I found out that they have 43000 Alumni which is better than WHU 10000 Alumn, with half of the price. Idk, I'm still confused but I am going to make the decision as soon as possible. thank you very much sir and have a great day :)

[quote]You are right that WHU is better and more expensive than GISMA, and harder to get into. I never heard of anyone not be accepted by GISMA: that is the nature of for-profit schools. And they always offer discounts. No-one pays the full price.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Absolutely, if you can get into a very good school, then do. ESMT, HHL, Mannheim, ESB, EBS... These are all very good. And if you cannot get into a very good school then get into a state university. Then, if you cant get into a state university then get into a university of applied sciences. But I cannot see any reason to go to GISMA.&nbsp;</div> [/quote]<div><br></div><div>Well, I wanna study I GISMA because of two things. First, they're located in Berlin, which is a great city to study as a foreigner. Secounde their degree will be from Grenoble Ecole de Management, I've used your Linkedin method and I found out that they have 43000 Alumni which is better than WHU 10000 Alumn, with half of the price. Idk, I'm still confused but I am going to make the decision as soon as possible. thank you very much&nbsp;</div><div>sir and have a great day :)</div><div style="box-sizing: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-size: 16px; vertical-align: baseline; background: transparent;"><div class="inline-block mr3" style="box-sizing: inherit; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-position: initial; background-size: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.9); font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, &quot;Segoe UI&quot;, Roboto, &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, &quot;Fira Sans&quot;, Ubuntu, Oxygen, &quot;Oxygen Sans&quot;, Cantarell, &quot;Droid Sans&quot;, &quot;Apple Color Emoji&quot;, &quot;Segoe UI Emoji&quot;, &quot;Segoe UI Symbol&quot;, &quot;Lucida Grande&quot;, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; margin-right: 12px !important; display: inline-block !important;"></div></div>
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smartcanad...

Only thing I remember about GISMA is they were one of the schools that sent me a scholarship offer and application waiver BEFORE I even sent in an application.  It was right after I took the GMAT.  At that time, the degree was being offered through Purdue Krannert.  I am actually surprised Purdue is no longer offering their degrees.  I thought that was a long-term arrangement.  I actually researched the school because of the Purdue degree but eventually decided against it because I was focused on North America. 

Only thing I remember about GISMA is they were one of the schools that sent me a scholarship offer and application waiver BEFORE I even sent in an application.&nbsp; It was right after I took the GMAT.&nbsp; At that time, the degree was being offered through Purdue Krannert.&nbsp; I am actually surprised Purdue is no longer offering their degrees.&nbsp; I thought that was a long-term arrangement.&nbsp; I actually researched the school because of the Purdue degree but eventually decided against it because I was focused on North America.&nbsp;
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Duncan

Berlin is the poorest of the larger German cities, with half the GDP per capita of the major business centres. It's a great place to visit for a weekend. A great place to study has to be: a college with good facilities, with permanent faculty, with research, with rigourous assessment. I don't see how GISMA meets that. Does it have even one real professor, as in a full-time habilitated staff member who publishes in good journals and teaches most weeks?
Grenoble has 4,500 MBA students and alumni in LinkedIn, mostly in France. You won't find work in France from Berlin. Grenoble has, as far as I can see, a dozen alumni in Berlin, and 167 in all of Germany, most of whom are Gisma students, staff or very junior recent alumni. That is inferior to any of the other schools or universities I mentioned. Graduates from the Purdue degrees at the original GISMA might not be helpful. 
Oh, is Gisma cheaper than very good schools? Most courses at state universities are free.
I am not surprised that Purdue ended tha arrangement. I visited the old Gisma, in Hannover. That was an excellent school and Purdue sent great professors. It attracted huge sponsor because of the link to the former chancellor, Gerhard Schröder. But after the Hannover uni sold Gisma to the Russian entrepreneurs who own LSBF, of course Purdue wanted nothing to do with their disasters. 

Berlin is the poorest of the larger German cities, with half the GDP per capita of the major business centres. It's a great place to visit for a weekend. A great place to study has to be: a college with good facilities, with permanent faculty, with research, with rigourous assessment. I don't see how GISMA meets that. Does it have even one real professor, as in a full-time habilitated staff member who publishes in good journals and teaches most weeks?<div><br></div><div>Grenoble has 4,500 MBA students and alumni in LinkedIn, mostly in France. You won't find work in France from Berlin. Grenoble has, as far as I can see, a dozen alumni in Berlin, and 167 in all of Germany, most of whom are Gisma students, staff or very junior recent alumni. That is inferior to any of the other schools or universities I mentioned. Graduates from the Purdue degrees at the original GISMA might not be helpful.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Oh, is Gisma cheaper than very good schools? Most courses at state universities are free.</div><div><br></div><div>I am not surprised that Purdue ended tha arrangement. I visited the old Gisma, in Hannover. That was an excellent school and Purdue sent great professors. It attracted huge sponsor because of the link to the former chancellor, Gerhard Schröder. But after the Hannover uni sold Gisma to the Russian entrepreneurs who own LSBF, of course Purdue wanted nothing to do with their disasters.&nbsp;</div>
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Duncan

Honestly, if you don't want to work in Germany and you just want to be a tourist before returning home with an MBA, just go to a university of applied science. Save the tution fee and spend the Easter vacation in Berlin instead. 

Honestly, if you don't want to work in Germany and you just want to be a tourist before returning home with an MBA, just go to a university of applied science. Save the tution fee and spend the Easter vacation in Berlin instead.&nbsp;
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smartcanad...

I am not surprised that Purdue ended tha arrangement. I visited the old Gisma, in Hannover. That was an excellent school and Purdue sent great professors. It attracted huge sponsor because of the link to the former chancellor, Gerhard Schröder. But after the Hannover uni sold Gisma to the Russian entrepreneurs who own LSBF, of course Purdue wanted nothing to do with their disasters. 

Interesting.  I did not know so much has changed over the years.  I agree - looks like a school to avoid.  

[quote]<div>I am not surprised that Purdue ended tha arrangement. I visited the old Gisma, in Hannover. That was an excellent school and Purdue sent great professors. It attracted huge sponsor because of the link to the former chancellor, Gerhard Schröder. But after the Hannover uni sold Gisma to the Russian entrepreneurs who own LSBF, of course Purdue wanted nothing to do with their disasters.&nbsp;</div> [/quote]<div><br></div><div>Interesting.&nbsp; I did not know so much has changed over the years.&nbsp; I agree - looks like a school to avoid.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
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Duncan

Oh god, yes, GISMA was a big gamble and, at the end of the ten year period, Purdue had to cut its losses. Then the Hannover university could not stabilise it financially. 
PS These Russian guys bought it when it was bankrupt and the whole thing is a pyramid of tetacles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_University_Systems 

[Edited by Duncan on May 13, 2020]

Oh god, yes, GISMA was a big gamble and, at the end of the ten year period, Purdue had to cut its losses. Then the Hannover university could not stabilise it financially.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>PS These Russian guys bought it when it was bankrupt and the whole thing is a pyramid of tetacles&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_University_Systems">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_University_Systems</a>&nbsp;</div>
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