GMP or MIB Pordenone?


remedios
Hi all!
I'm new here. I've about 10 years experience mostly as Customer Service Manager in Italy and Switzerland and I'm now thinking to take an Executive MBA. Since I find too expensive in Switzerland I'm looking at Italy and found MBI very interesting. But I was also interested in GMP (ESCP), I know this is not a real MBA but maybe it is better know internationally. what do you think about? thanks!
Hi all!
I'm new here. I've about 10 years experience mostly as Customer Service Manager in Italy and Switzerland and I'm now thinking to take an Executive MBA. Since I find too expensive in Switzerland I'm looking at Italy and found MBI very interesting. But I was also interested in GMP (ESCP), I know this is not a real MBA but maybe it is better know internationally. what do you think about? thanks!
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Duncan
If you use the search engine you can find maubia's discussion of those options.
If you use the search engine you can find maubia's discussion of those options.
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remedios
thanks Duncan. In effect I found some interesting comments :-) What about CIMBA in Asolo and thier PSDM Program with Iowa Univiersity, do you maybe know it?
thanks Duncan. In effect I found some interesting comments :-) What about CIMBA in Asolo and thier PSDM Program with Iowa Univiersity, do you maybe know it?
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maubia
if you don't have time to go through my past thread... :-)
In Italy (considering only nothern options)
1) SDA
2) MIP
3) MIB

SDA global emba is the only one kept 100% in english, while SDA emba, MIP and MIB are most in italian. Recently I followed an sda introduction webmeeting and it looked particularly interesting. They said that the main difference between the global version and the local version is just the language and the international travels(by the way they share the same electives, which are kept 100% in english)

Mib is really pushing on marketing... they contact me every other weeks and they aree investing a lot on adwords :-)
Keep in mind that they don't guarantee that you can deduct the 20% from taxes(while it's automatic for MIP).. basically it depends on the local tax authority (some accepts, some doesn't)!So more or less they cost the same.

GMP makes sense if you are interested in the ESCP emba otherwise it might appear a weaker option than an emba.
if you don't have time to go through my past thread... :-)
In Italy (considering only nothern options)
1) SDA
2) MIP
3) MIB

SDA global emba is the only one kept 100% in english, while SDA emba, MIP and MIB are most in italian. Recently I followed an sda introduction webmeeting and it looked particularly interesting. They said that the main difference between the global version and the local version is just the language and the international travels(by the way they share the same electives, which are kept 100% in english)

Mib is really pushing on marketing... they contact me every other weeks and they aree investing a lot on adwords :-)
Keep in mind that they don't guarantee that you can deduct the 20% from taxes(while it's automatic for MIP).. basically it depends on the local tax authority (some accepts, some doesn't)!So more or less they cost the same.

GMP makes sense if you are interested in the ESCP emba otherwise it might appear a weaker option than an emba.
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remedios
thanks Maubia!!! and did you find out that MIP is better than MIB? I think MIP has still a better and maybe international reputation or am I wrong?
thanks Maubia!!! and did you find out that MIP is better than MIB? I think MIP has still a better and maybe international reputation or am I wrong?
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maubia
thanks Maubia!!! and did you find out that MIP is better than MIB? I think MIP has still a better and maybe international reputation or am I wrong?


I assume you are italian... Bocconi and MIP are known everywhere here (I mean the Universities...but of course, the business schools will inherited from their brands). MIB is known in Triveto (mostly)....
<blockquote>thanks Maubia!!! and did you find out that MIP is better than MIB? I think MIP has still a better and maybe international reputation or am I wrong?
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I assume you are italian... Bocconi and MIP are known everywhere here (I mean the Universities...but of course, the business schools will inherited from their brands). MIB is known in Triveto (mostly)....
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remedios
:-( yes I'm Italian and come from near Pordenone but I'm now living and working in Zurich and I need something that would be recognized here too...
:-( yes I'm Italian and come from near Pordenone but I'm now living and working in Zurich and I need something that would be recognized here too...
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remedios
my concerns about MIP is that it is more dedicated to engineers (more than 50% are eng) and I have more a commercial background
my concerns about MIP is that it is more dedicated to engineers (more than 50% are eng) and I have more a commercial background
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maubia
:-( yes I'm Italian and come from near Pordenone but I'm now living and working in Zurich and I need something that would be recognized here too...


well, if you work in Zurich you should have the funds to go through imd :-)
<blockquote>:-( yes I'm Italian and come from near Pordenone but I'm now living and working in Zurich and I need something that would be recognized here too...</blockquote>

well, if you work in Zurich you should have the funds to go through imd :-)
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remedios
ahahah to be honest it is very expensive for Swiss too and the other MBA here from not well known schools start from 40-60000 CHF
ahahah to be honest it is very expensive for Swiss too and the other MBA here from not well known schools start from 40-60000 CHF
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Duncan
If you're in Zurich, then I would strongly consider the ETH's MAS programme. It's one of the world's top universities. http://www.mas-mtec.ethz.ch/
If you're in Zurich, then I would strongly consider the ETH's MAS programme. It's one of the world's top universities. http://www.mas-mtec.ethz.ch/
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remedios
Hi, I found out that MIP is offering a Master program for 14.000 ? it is the "General Management" among the PEGASO programs who are dedicated to Managers
The problem is that it is in Italian even if they said me they will use English books and articles.
But I am not a little bit confused?.can anybody explain me the difference and the value between an MBA and an EMBA?
Thanks
Remedios
Hi, I found out that MIP is offering a Master program for 14.000 ? it is the "General Management" among the PEGASO programs who are dedicated to Managers
The problem is that it is in Italian even if they said me they will use English books and articles.
But I am not a little bit confused?.can anybody explain me the difference and the value between an MBA and an EMBA?
Thanks
Remedios
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Duncan
MBA is full time; EMBA is part-time: http://www.find-mba.com/article/526/traditional-mba-or-executive-mba-program
MBA is full time; EMBA is part-time: http://www.find-mba.com/article/526/traditional-mba-or-executive-mba-program
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remedios
ok thanks here in Italy they called them "MBA", "part-time MBA" or "EMBA". I asked which is the difference to MIP in Milan and they answered it is the target, EMBA is directed to manager but then they have this PEGASO program which is a MBA for managers!
Duncan do you think that the perceived value of an EMBA and MBA is the same?
ok thanks here in Italy they called them "MBA", "part-time MBA" or "EMBA". I asked which is the difference to MIP in Milan and they answered it is the target, EMBA is directed to manager but then they have this PEGASO program which is a MBA for managers!
Duncan do you think that the perceived value of an EMBA and MBA is the same?
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Duncan
Indeed, schools can describe a part-time MBA with many labels, but an EMBA is only ever a part-time programme. Full-time programmes generally have better support for changing career, industry or country. Part-time programmes work best for people who don't want to make that change.
Indeed, schools can describe a part-time MBA with many labels, but an EMBA is only ever a part-time programme. Full-time programmes generally have better support for changing career, industry or country. Part-time programmes work best for people who don't want to make that change.
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ezra
ok thanks here in Italy they called them "MBA", "part-time MBA" or "EMBA". I asked which is the difference to MIP in Milan and they answered it is the target, EMBA is directed to manager but then they have this PEGASO program which is a MBA for managers!
The difference might be in the respective audiences of the programs: in the MIP MBA program, students have about 4-5 years of work experience on average - while in their EMBA program, the average is about 12 years.
<blockquote>ok thanks here in Italy they called them "MBA", "part-time MBA" or "EMBA". I asked which is the difference to MIP in Milan and they answered it is the target, EMBA is directed to manager but then they have this PEGASO program which is a MBA for managers!</blockquote>The difference might be in the respective audiences of the programs: in the MIP MBA program, students have about 4-5 years of work experience on average - while in their EMBA program, the average is about 12 years.
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remedios
Thanks! And are you aware about the PEGASO Master program of MIP? It's seems to be very interesting and flexible but does not give the MBA title
Thanks! And are you aware about the PEGASO Master program of MIP? It's seems to be very interesting and flexible but does not give the MBA title
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Duncan
Pegaso is not comparable to an MBA. There are no core courses or is there meaningful assessment. It's not a cohort programme. Nor do most people use it for a masters.
Pegaso is not comparable to an MBA. There are no core courses or is there meaningful assessment. It's not a cohort programme. Nor do most people use it for a masters.
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remedios
Hmmm it's a master but you can choose the courses you want to attend (of course with the MIP tutor's suggestion)
Hmmm it's a master but you can choose the courses you want to attend (of course with the MIP tutor's suggestion)
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Duncan
I am sure your Italian is better than mine. As I read it, it is a series of executive education courses which can be taken independently of each other without any commitment to complete enough units to equate to a masters. That is rather like the old Ashridge diploma in general management.

But, certainly, no core courses and no cohort.
I am sure your Italian is better than mine. As I read it, it is a series of executive education courses which can be taken independently of each other without any commitment to complete enough units to equate to a masters. That is rather like the old Ashridge diploma in general management.

But, certainly, no core courses and no cohort.
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